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Old 03-22-2010, 09:49 PM   #1
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Cactus Club in place of Concession (english bay)

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VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Vancouver's park board has decided to let a Cactus Club restaurant to set up shop in place of the concession stand at English Bay.

The deal promises to bring $240,000 a year in rent plus four per cent of revenue. Last year the concession stand, which stands in the spot now, only pulled in $63,000.

The 4,000 square-foot restaurant is expected to be completed by June, 2011.

Commissioner Stuart MacKinnon was the only member of the board to vote against the plan.

Many critics worry the restaurant will block public access to the beach, but the board says the facility will be located above the beach, where the concession stand is currently located.
http://www.news1130.com/news/local/a...or-english-bay

i thought it was just proposed not certain...

ugh i think its a bad idea, they should leave the concession on the main floor and put the cactus club upstairs
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Lol, Stuart MacKinnon.

I know who that is. Always trying to be different and votes against everyone else.
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they should put a a pho restaurant instead.
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^ Yeah nothing better like hot soup on a hot sunny day at the beach...
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yeah i agree put a better restaurant there

the only restaurants that can afford it i guess are corporates
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Doesn't Jericho or kits have a restaurant there?

I think a more seafood oriented restaurant should have gone there instead.


LIKE THE CANNERY!!!!
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Doesn't Jericho or kits have a restaurant there?

I think a more seafood oriented restaurant should have gone there instead.


LIKE THE CANNERY!!!!
You are right it would be great, but then the amount of money they will need to put in to build the restaurant is one thing, not every restaurant is a chain restaurant like cactus or earls where they can pulls out that much money to build a restaurant. Second to attract the same amount and the same kind of customer to the Cannery might be hard. Plus where are they going to find parking.
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What kind of restaurant do you guys want?
Who eats sushi or pho on the beach?

Cactus club is a good match, its locally owned and operated. They plan to have a concession type area plus the restaurant and that way its not super sketchy getting some fries or a hot dog. I only really see an upside to this, does anyone have any realistic complaints other than whining about a place they probably never go to anyways?
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i guess that's true, but thats probably because we have it so great here; so we hate seeing things changed
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city of vancouver is estimating this deal would net them $4 million over the next four years; it's gonna be tough for another restaurant that can offer a better deal for COV.

I'm all for the city trying to generate revenue than the usual tax hike.
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The park board chair was on CBC Radio One on Monday morning and he said that only 3 companies submitted proposals to the city after posting its Request-for-Proposal. So, before people complain about Cactus Club, there were indeed a lack of choices.

The city got a pretty darn good deal for this. They are basically charging Cactus a ridiculous amount of rent and Cactus has to pay for the construction of a building too.
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haha.. Captain Happy Bubble right at English Bay. That would be awesome....
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What kind of restaurant do you guys want?
Who eats sushi or pho on the beach?

Cactus club is a good match, its locally owned and operated. They plan to have a concession type area plus the restaurant and that way its not super sketchy getting some fries or a hot dog. I only really see an upside to this, does anyone have any realistic complaints other than whining about a place they probably never go to anyways?
You mean besides the fact that their food is terrible and their service is even worse? EVERY cactus club I have EVER been to has had horrible food for the amount they charge, which I'm sure they will increase because of the location. And it's ridiculous that it takes the waitresses 15 minutes to come back with a simple drink, when it's not busy. They should maybe think about employing waitresses who can handle multiple tasks rather than ones with huge boobs.
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You mean besides the fact that their food is terrible and their service is even worse? EVERY cactus club I have EVER been to has had horrible food for the amount they charge, which I'm sure they will increase because of the location. And it's ridiculous that it takes the waitresses 15 minutes to come back with a simple drink, when it's not busy. They should maybe think about employing waitresses who can handle multiple tasks rather than ones with huge boobs.
Well, out of the 3 companies who submitted a proposal, the fact that Cactus Club was probably the one who was able to put up the money the city wanted under this deal says something about our city. Cactus (and Earls and Joey's) are only offering what the market demands.

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You're all quick to write the history books before the events have even happened.

There are plenty of peons out there who would willingly visit this location. Convenience is a huge factor. Brand name is another. I don't go to a concession stand looking for prime service and food quality; I go for quick food. As for their full-fledged restaurant, like I said before, there are plenty of peons who will happily fill their guts and empty their wallets there.

You guys talk about bad service/food like it's a deal-breaker. How is it that every other crappy restaurant is still open then? Fish on Rice, ABC, etc.

Unless you guys can think of an alternative that can generate a guaranteed $4 million, I suggest you sit down and take a lesson in humility.
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You're all quick to write the history books before the events have even happened.

There are plenty of peons out there who would willingly visit this location. Convenience is a huge factor. Brand name is another. I don't go to a concession stand looking for prime service and food quality; I go for quick food. As for their full-fledged restaurant, like I said before, there are plenty of peons who will happily fill their guts and empty their wallets there.

You guys talk about bad service/food like it's a deal-breaker. How is it that every other crappy restaurant is still open then? Fish on Rice, ABC, etc.

Unless you guys can think of an alternative that can generate a guaranteed $4 million, I suggest you sit down and take a lesson in humility.
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You're all quick to write the history books before the events have even happened.

There are plenty of peons out there who would willingly visit this location. Convenience is a huge factor. Brand name is another. I don't go to a concession stand looking for prime service and food quality; I go for quick food. As for their full-fledged restaurant, like I said before, there are plenty of peons who will happily fill their guts and empty their wallets there.

You guys talk about bad service/food like it's a deal-breaker. How is it that every other crappy restaurant is still open then? Fish on Rice, ABC, etc.

Unless you guys can think of an alternative that can generate a guaranteed $4 million, I suggest you sit down and take a lesson in humility.
Bang on.

If you work downtown, you know how hard it is to get a table at the Burrard Cactus for lunch, or after work on Friday nights.

If you're upset about Cactus because they have poor food, that is a different issue. Now that I think about it, my preference would have been for a White Spot/Triple O outlet because at least their burgers are good, but I'm sure the money wasn't there to top Cactus' bid. This is simply about dollars and cents. Cactus is banking that their loyal customer base will follow them to English Bay, while the City reaps $4 million plus 4% of total sales.

$4 million means the continued maintenance of the city parks. If the City didn't sellout this piece of real-estate, where would they have gotten that money? And don't bring up the Olympics.
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