More bike lane in downtown

[Phat_R]

Originally Posted by mikeivb

I think if bikes want to get the same rights as cars like getting their own lane, then they should obey the rules like drivers have to. Bikers are always running red lights, weaving through traffic, etc....

I saw a cyclist get pulled over by a cop yesterday for running a red light on Expo Blvd. yesterday.

So glad to see they are doing that finally

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

that just made my day

Originally Posted by mikeivb

I think if bikes want to get the same rights as cars like getting their own lane, then they should obey the rules like drivers have to. Bikers are always running red lights, weaving through traffic, etc....

better yet, why the fuck arent they paying insurance. they wonna share the road like a car, well..pay the fucking insurance in case they get hit or killed. Motorcycles pays insurance, why should they be any different if they wonna take advantage of their LAME

[yvrnycracer]

The interesting thing about the georgia/dunsmuir viaduct bike lane is the fact that there is already quite a generous sidewalk that is rarely if ever used. If Logic would have prevailed they would have SAVED the money and used that for bikes... but logical thinking isn't something the amateur politicians like to use at city hall.

The Extension of the bike lane down dunsmuir is just something that obviously they made a decision on while taking bong hits... Taking a lane away from one of the most congested streets in the downtown core... and killing turning to all motor vehicle traffic is just about the worst decision ever. I hope Mayor McJuice is enjoying his term because it will without a doubt be his first and last. The backing of the critical massholes is not enough to keep a government in power.

Instead of spending the money on that they could have spent the money on putting advanced green's at all the corners where the flow of traffic is hindered by the sheer number of people who cross the street... Hornby and Robson, Dunsmuir and Seymore to name a few...

[SpartanAir]

That's the other thing;

Dear Cyclists: Are you a vehicle, or are you a pedestrian?

You seem to want to "share the road" with other "vehicles", and yet time and time again you blow right thru lights and stop signs. Sure, much of the time you might stop at busy lights, but DON'T fuckin tell me you stop at stop signs.

And how about riding across crosswalks? Hmm...seems to me they're called crossWALKS for a reason...get off your fucking bike and WALK it across, or wait for the light.

Go down and sit on 10th Ave. in Vancouver during peak hours at a 4 way intersection and tell me how many cyclists stop at the stop signs. Please, I'd like to know.

[7seven]

Originally Posted by Mugen EvOlutioN

keep us updated when you see one get run over

Driving into DT this morning at 6am, they had Dunsmuir from the viaduct to Hornby down to one lane for line painting, which backed up traffic. I saw multiple people in vehicles swearing at passing cyclist and one vehicle throw a coffee at a cyclist.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

i take that route too when i drive to work, its really crowded now since its down to two lanes. Sigh...


dont know why they treasure the cyclists right so much

Originally Posted by SpartanAir

That's the other thing;

Dear Cyclists: Are you a vehicle, or are you a pedestrian?

You seem to want to "share the road" with other "vehicles", and yet time and time again you blow right thru lights and stop signs. Sure, much of the time you might stop at busy lights, but DON'T fuckin tell me you stop at stop signs.

And how about riding across crosswalks? Hmm...seems to me they're called crossWALKS for a reason...get off your fucking bike and WALK it across, or wait for the light.

Go down and sit on 10th Ave. in Vancouver during peak hours at a 4 way intersection and tell me how many cyclists stop at the stop signs. Please, I'd like to know.

NONE!!!

[Greenstoner]

LOL, the bike lane on dunsmuir should be re-name to Hockey route.

There will be more hockey fans to use this route after the game starting next season than thoese god damn cyclists.

Thats about the only pros i saw in this construction.

[jaretron]

Originally Posted by yvrnycracer

The interesting thing about the georgia/dunsmuir viaduct bike lane is the fact that there is already quite a generous sidewalk that is rarely if ever used. If Logic would have prevailed they would have SAVED the money and used that for bikes... but logical thinking isn't something the amateur politicians like to use at city hall.

It's kinda funny, I've been driving the viaduct everyday this week at around 8am with no problem at all, I can't speak on other times but consistently at 8ish there is no problem. Today I looked at the side walk and its maybe wide enough for one bike, to call it generous is huge overstatement. Its for pedestrians and I see someone on the sidewalk everyday. Besides, the debate of the viaduct bike lane is negated by the fact that the lane was taken away a couple years ago, so other than the merge fiasco off of Main (which people will adapt to) nothing has changed.

Originally Posted by SpartanAir

Dear Cyclists: Are you a vehicle, or are you a pedestrian?

You seem to want to "share the road" with other "vehicles", and yet time and time again you blow right thru lights and stop signs. Sure, much of the time you might stop at busy lights, but DON'T fuckin tell me you stop at stop signs.

And how about riding across crosswalks? Hmm...seems to me they're called crossWALKS for a reason...get off your fucking bike and WALK it across, or wait for the light.

Go down and sit on 10th Ave. in Vancouver during peak hours at a 4 way intersection and tell me how many cyclists stop at the stop signs. Please, I'd like to know.

I agree that bicyclist should dismount if they want to use a crosswalk, I never stop for bikers if they are waiting at a crosswalk on their bike.

Now the stop sign thing I only partly agree with you, especially on 10th. If a bicyclist is preventing traffic from the correct order of flow then obviously they should be stopping, and if not? issued a ticket for sure. A thing to remember is on a bike you are higher up and can see over most parked cars, you can also hear cars approaching more easily than when you drive a car. Now when I ride on 10th I would appear to blow through the 4way stops but as I approach I can see if any traffic is coming way before I could in a car. Also on a bike I am vulnerable, its my life so you best be sure that I'm super careful at every intersection. The reason myself and others are not really stopping is due to momentum, surely I don't have to explain this. Commute on a bike and you will understand.

It only takes a couple retarded drivers to convince someone that every bad driver is out on the road at a certain given time, well some of these same retards ride bikes. I yell at fellow bikers all the time, they don't realize that by yelling at drivers (that might be in there way when they shouldn't, or pulled too far out into the street to see if they can go) that they are just perpetuating a culture of cars vs bikes.

[jaretron]

Originally Posted by Phat_R

I saw a cyclist get pulled over by a cop yesterday for running a red light on Expo Blvd. yesterday.

So glad to see they are doing that finally

Finally? They've been doing it for years on bike routes. The cops camp out where bicyclist often blow through stop signs at dangerous intersections, and rightfully so.

[Tapioca]

Originally Posted by Phat_R

Yah -- most of the complainers are apathetic people than only care about civic issues when they interfere with their own little world

Main issue is urban overgrowth and too many fucking cars.

You live in a big city now -- deal with it

Probably the most insightful post in the whole thread.

The reality is that it's a bad implementation of a decent idea.

The city should encourage cycling to the downtown core, as well as expand transit options. Some of you complain that you have no showers in your building? Well, if there was a demand, I'm sure more property managers would build them. And how do you create a demand? By making it more feasible for people to cycle downtown.

[Anjew]

Originally Posted by mikeivb

I think if bikes want to get the same rights as cars like getting their own lane, then they should obey the rules like drivers have to. Bikers are always running red lights, weaving through traffic, etc....

this is what i have been saying the entire time..... they need to obey the same traffic laws as cars if they want a peice of the road...

i fucking hate it when on a red light a cyclist would weave through traffic to the very front of the right lane far out enough to block the person trying to turn right.

driving a car too slow can be a hazzard... so riding a bicycle slowing down traffic to a crawl on the right lane isnt?

if the fucking city wants to eliminate cars from downtown they need to propose a better alternative to driving... i'm not riding a bicycle wearing my suit.
how about instead of spending millions of dollars putting in that bikelane they build a nice mega parking lot outside of downtown near a skytrain station for people to park their cars at a decent price/good security). Instead of that mega parking lot being near a skytrain station they can have dedicated busses run from that parking lot to parts of the downtown core

[Delerious]

How about everyone who is complaining about cyclists hops on a bike and commutes to work for a week or so. You'll see how bad drivers are, and how dangerous it can be to be in traffic on a bike. You might shed a few pounds while you're at it

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

Originally Posted by adog

this is what i have been saying the entire time..... they need to obey the same traffic laws as cars if they want a peice of the road...

i fucking hate it when on a red light a cyclist would weave through traffic to the very front of the right lane far out enough to block the person trying to turn right.

driving a car too slow can be a hazzard... so riding a bicycle slowing down traffic to a crawl on the right lane isnt?

if the fucking city wants to eliminate cars from downtown they need to propose a better alternative to driving... i'm not riding a bicycle wearing my suit.
how about instead of spending millions of dollars putting in that bikelane they build a nice mega parking lot outside of downtown near a skytrain station for people to park their cars at a decent price/good security). Instead of that mega parking lot being near a skytrain station they can have dedicated busses run from that parking lot to parts of the downtown core

werd

my contractor was FUCKING pissed off yesterday, cuz he couldnt enter the building by going around and around the fucking block for 40 minutes near Bentall 5. I saw the fucking dumbass bike LAME further down dunsmuir and i was like wtf is this shit. You cant turn left, now u cant take right thx to bike lame. Jesus fucking christ.....

[Marioo1991]

What pisses me off is after all the effort spent making bike lanes all around vancouver you still have hippies going down broadway and cornwall at 5mph blocking traffic during rush hour. Its times like that I wish I drove a RHD car.

[Greenstoner]

if cyclist wanna ride in dt, they belongs in stanley park only

[Vinny G]

Originally Posted by mikeivb

What pisses me off is after all the effort spent making bike lanes all around vancouver you still have hippies going down broadway and cornwall at 5mph blocking traffic during rush hour. Its times like that I wish I drove a RHD car.

You haven't seen bad until you've been on a BUS following a cyclist. When I was still at SFU, I would take the 135 bus from Renfrew/Hastings. Try having a bus drive behind cyclist from Renfrew to Boundary. The line of cars behind us was amazing, especially considering they were doing construction near Cassiar.

[Tapioca]

Originally Posted by adog

this is what i have been saying the entire time..... they need to obey the same traffic laws as cars if they want a peice of the road...

i fucking hate it when on a red light a cyclist would weave through traffic to the very front of the right lane far out enough to block the person trying to turn right.

driving a car too slow can be a hazzard... so riding a bicycle slowing down traffic to a crawl on the right lane isnt?

Agree with your points, which is why bikes need their own paths, hence the Dunsmir bike lane.

if the fucking city wants to eliminate cars from downtown they need to propose a better alternative to driving... i'm not riding a bicycle wearing my suit.
how about instead of spending millions of dollars putting in that bikelane they build a nice mega parking lot outside of downtown near a skytrain station for people to park their cars at a decent price/good security). Instead of that mega parking lot being near a skytrain station they can have dedicated busses run from that parking lot to parts of the downtown core

There are two Park and Rides - one at Scott Road and the other at the River Rock in Richmond. Finding a large quantity of land near Skytrain stations isn't exactly cheap these days either.

Park-and-Rides aren't exactly sustainable solutions either.

[InvisibleSoul]

I can't believe they disallowed turning from one-way Dunsmuir to one-way Seymour and Hornby Streets. That's ridiculous.

[Greenstoner]

Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul

I can't believe they disallowed turning from one-way Dunsmuir to one-way Seymour and Hornby Streets. That's ridiculous.

yup, thats really a stupid idea to restrict right turn on 1 way street

[7seven]

Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul

I can't believe they disallowed turning from one-way Dunsmuir to one-way Seymour and Hornby Streets. That's ridiculous.

Not only that, they now have signs on Cambie and I believe other streets saying no right turns onto Dunsmuir too, makes no sense. Another example I came across this weekend of why they shouldn't have expanded the existing Dunsmuir bike lane, the taxi stops and valet sections in front of the St.Regis and Shore Club are still in effect, so when someone is stopped in the left lane there, it reduces Dunsmuir down to 1 lane, which is ridiculous for a busy vehicle route into downtown.