ksport big brake kit...?

[Leopold Stotch]

rule of thumb* i believe from reading off a spocom mag is that

if you can lose traction braking hard, then your tire cant anymore braking power, so it doesnt matter how good your brakes are if your tires cant handle the power.

[wasabisashimi]

isnt there something bad about SS braided brake lines? (ie. durability..etc)

[felixy69]

alot of ppl use them over in UK, they are same as D2 racing....
if u search on www.gtr.co.uk .... alot of reviews on them....just cuz they are sold on ebay...doesn't mean they are bad products

[Death2Theft]

He's all about looks, therefore the more pistons the better. Aside from completely throwing off the braking balance of the car if it isn't a balanced four caliper kit. Instead of helping the car with " performance" it will make the car more dangerous under hard braking. This is why ricers give imports a bad name. In my own experience bbk doesn't do shit for stopping power on the street so throw that safety reason out the window. As mentioned tires will make the biggest difference on the street.
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[Y2K_o__o]

Big brake kit is completely useless you are going auto-X / road racing

spend the money for some good grippy tire for better braking distance

upgrading to big brake kit with cheap tires will result tire slipping.

[jpark]

Originally Posted by Death2Theft

He's all about looks, therefore the more pistons the better. Aside from completely throwing off the braking balance of the car if it isn't a balanced four caliper kit. Instead of helping the car with " performance" it will make the car more dangerous under hard braking. This is why ricers give imports a bad name. In my own experience bbk doesn't do shit for stopping power on the street so throw that safety reason out the window. As mentioned tires will make the biggest difference on the street.
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yep, im a ricer... and where did the shitty tire subject came from anyways? i never even mentioned what kind of tires im riding on...

[XtC-604]

Originally Posted by Leopold Stotch

rule of thumb* i believe from reading off a spocom mag is that

if you can lose traction braking hard, then your tire cant anymore braking power, so it doesnt matter how good your brakes are if your tires cant handle the power.

True but i would like to add that theres something called brake fade, and pedal feel

Originally Posted by Y2K_o__o

Big brake kit is completely useless you are going auto-X / road racing

spend the money for some good grippy tire for better braking distance

upgrading to big brake kit with cheap tires will result tire slipping.

No its not. I did a Vancouver to Maple Ridge run, doing slightly above average speeds and my brakes were faded so bad when i arrived at the destination at Maple Ridge.
Keep in mind this is on an S2000, which has some of the best stock brakes apparently according to reviewers, so good that some people would just change pads and track the car. There comes a point where your stock calipers just don't have enough material to absorb heat and disperse anymore.

Not to mention, the extra set of pad choices available on a BBK. While i will admit that i purchased Spoon calipers because of 50% looks. 50% was pedal feel and brake fade.

And no i'm not using some cheapy shit pads or fluids in the car.

so my advice is get a set of known reliable ones. ie endless, project mu, stoptech, brembo, Spoon, etc. Don't tell they don't fit, make the car fit the part.

[TOPEC]

Originally Posted by Death2Theft

He's all about looks, therefore the more pistons the better. Aside from completely throwing off the braking balance of the car if it isn't a balanced four caliper kit. Instead of helping the car with " performance" it will make the car more dangerous under hard braking. This is why ricers give imports a bad name. In my own experience bbk doesn't do shit for stopping power on the street so throw that safety reason out the window. As mentioned tires will make the biggest difference on the street.
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brake kits r manufactured with stock brake balance in mind, so in other words, even if u throw on a 12piston caliper onto the front of a civic and keep the stock rears, the brake balance is still the same as stock given u r using a kit that is meant for the right car.

[Death2Theft]

Not all companies do this therefore a company that does a four caliper upgrade will truely maximize your braking unless you use and tune your own proportioning valve.
Slot of companies think bbk race use so they will scrap stock rear brakes or run a proportioning Valve hence no need to balance. I'll leave it to you to figure out which ones when you do a panic stop in the wet.
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[Death2Theft]

Damn right I can bet your not running triple 8s neovas or any tire in that class.

Originally Posted by downhiller88

yep, im a ricer... and where did the shitty tire subject came from anyways? i never even mentioned what kind of tires im riding on...

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[Death2Theft]

Fact is the majority of people on here are after the looks. If a little run to ridge in a 240hp car faded ur brakes then you are either going fast enough to endanger the public or you have problems with your braking system. Which of the following did you have on your car before the bbk?
A. Fresh high temp brake fluid (never overheated and less than 3 months old)
B. SS brake lines to replace factory rubber lines.
C. High temp brake pads.
D. Full brake ducting with sealed duct work and dust covers.

There are a few more things u can do that I havnt bothered to put up.
But these should all be done before u need a bbk.

Only after you have tried all these and still suffer brake problems with a frilly tire should u consider bbk.

Originally Posted by XtC-604

True but i would like to add that theres something called brake fade, and pedal feel


No its not. I did a Vancouver to Maple Ridge run, doing slightly above average speeds and my brakes were faded so bad when i arrived at the destination at Maple Ridge.
Keep in mind this is on an S2000, which has some of the best stock brakes apparently according to reviewers, so good that some people would just change pads and track the car. There comes a point where your stock calipers just don't have enough material to absorb heat and disperse anymore.

Not to mention, the extra set of pad choices available on a BBK. While i will admit that i purchased Spoon calipers because of 50% looks. 50% was pedal feel and brake fade.

And no i'm not using some cheapy shit pads or fluids in the car.

so my advice is get a set of known reliable ones. ie endless, project mu, stoptech, brembo, Spoon, etc. Don't tell they don't fit, make the car fit the part.

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[ShyGuy]

I agree with the above..there is no reason you should be able to fade a set of OEM brakes driving on the street. With proper pads, fluids and maybe SS lines, you should be good to go.

[tofu1413]

Originally Posted by Death2Theft

Fact is the majority of people on here are after the looks. If a little run to ridge in a 240hp car faded ur brakes then you are either going fast enough to endanger the public or you have problems with your braking system. Which of the following did you have on your car before the bbk?
A. Fresh high temp brake fluid (never overheated and less than 3 months old)
B. SS brake lines to replace factory rubber lines.
C. High temp brake pads.
D. Full brake ducting with sealed duct work and dust covers.

There are a few more things u can do that I havnt bothered to put up.
But these should all be done before u need a bbk.

Only after you have tried all these and still suffer brake problems with a frilly tire should u consider bbk.

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honestly, i only felt faded brake once: going down mt seymour i believe (well you get the idea how fast you can go..) , in my ae86.......... still running original rotors with some raybestos pads... and some ancient brake fluid.

shit it was scary. cooked the brakes and could actually smell burnt brakes inside the car...

[jpark]

Originally Posted by Death2Theft

Fact is the majority of people on here are after the looks. If a little run to ridge in a 240hp car faded ur brakes then you are either going fast enough to endanger the public or you have problems with your braking system. Which of the following did you have on your car before the bbk?
A. Fresh high temp brake fluid (never overheated and less than 3 months old)
B. SS brake lines to replace factory rubber lines.
C. High temp brake pads.
D. Full brake ducting with sealed duct work and dust covers.

There are a few more things u can do that I havnt bothered to put up.
But these should all be done before u need a bbk.

Only after you have tried all these and still suffer brake problems with a frilly tire should u consider bbk.

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thanks for the info but boy you really need to chill, i started this thread to simply ask how good are the ksport bbk, and now i know cuz of all the infomation... that they are not that great and and no need to spend money on bbk.. you didnt have to start calling me ricer blah blah blah, fuken goodness

[wasabisashimi]

Originally Posted by Death2Theft

Fact is the majority of people on here are after the looks. If a little run to ridge in a 240hp car faded ur brakes then you are either going fast enough to endanger the public or you have problems with your braking system. Which of the following did you have on your car before the bbk?
A. Fresh high temp brake fluid (never overheated and less than 3 months old)
B. SS brake lines to replace factory rubber lines.
C. High temp brake pads.
D. Full brake ducting with sealed duct work and dust covers.

There are a few more things u can do that I havnt bothered to put up.
But these should all be done before u need a bbk.

Only after you have tried all these and still suffer brake problems with a frilly tire should u consider bbk.

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what if he were to drive down the Coquihalla HWY with 20% descending hills

[Death2Theft]

It would be no different than if i were to decline down a 47.85% descending slope with the oscar meyer sausage truck aimed firmly at your rectum.

Or you could learn to downshift and use engine braking but thats just me.

Originally Posted by wasabisashimi

what if he were to drive down the Coquihalla HWY with 20% descending hills

[flagella]

caliper covers FTW!! LOL

[jpark]

^dont caliper covers melt from the brake heat? LOL