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[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Soundy

Show me in the rulebook where a high stick has to actually contact the player or his equipment before it's called a penalty?

[7seven]

Originally Posted by Soundy

Show me in the rulebook where a high stick has to actually contact the player or his equipment before it's called a penalty?

60.2 Minor Penalty - Any contact made by a stick on an opponent above the shoulders is prohibited and a minor penalty shall be imposed

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26352

For a high sticking penalty to be issued, contact must be made.

[Spidey]

Originally Posted by Soundy

Show me in the rulebook where a high stick has to actually contact the player or his equipment before it's called a penalty?

i don't think i have ever seen a penalty called on a high stick where the player never got hit..... unless the guy 2 handed and tried to hit the players head like a baseball.. i have seen penalties called in which the ref called it because of the head of the player kicked back out of reaction.. but ya... if you were a ref i am sure you wouldn't call a high sticking penalty on a player if he tried a stick lift, got it up too high but missed the players head.

[Tapioca]

Originally Posted by BlueG2

I hope Ballard starts Tuesday. I don't know why you would take out Ballard when he would get just as much playtime as Alberts generally would.. LAst I checked, Ballard was the only even player in the 7-2 loss in game 4. He even had a his playoff high of 15 mins that game.

If Salo can't go on Tuesday, I think both Alberts and Ballard should draw in and play as the 3rd pairing. Ballard isn't big enough to be physical, but he can pass and skate, leaving Alberts to handle the forwards in the corners and down low.

Rome, while a great guy, can't make a pass to save his life and skates just as slowly as Alberts.

[Spidey]

What did Rome and Alberts really do to use their size against the Hawks that Ballard didn't do? I have a suspiscion that Ballard is not 100% and that is why he is scratched/has had minimal ice time. There is no way AV is picking on Ballard just because. Ballard probably has been playing all season and playoffs because rome alberts salo and edler were all hurt at the same time.. and then Tanev went down... I will bet Ballard has and is 75% most of the season.... That knee tweak against the Coyotes was probably more than we think too....

i doubt Salo will play.. Looked like he pulled his groin on that backcheck on Kane in the first

[RiceIntegraRS]

Originally Posted by BlueG2

i don't think i have ever seen a penalty called on a high stick where the player never got hit..... unless the guy 2 handed and tried to hit the players head like a baseball.. i have seen penalties called in which the ref called it because of the head of the player kicked back out of reaction.. but ya... if you were a ref i am sure you wouldn't call a high sticking penalty on a player if he tried a stick lift, got it up too high but missed the players head.

Ive actually seen many penalties where the stick makes contact with the visor and not the face and it would still be called a penalty. The thing is, we can debate about penalties and non penalties all day long. Its alll about consistency, if ur gonna call penalties against one team, the same rules should be in effect for the other aswell. Right now i dont believe it is the same.

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by BlueG2

i don't think i have ever seen a penalty called on a high stick where the player never got hit.....

Funny... I have.

[Spidey]

Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS

Ive actually seen many penalties where the stick makes contact with the visor and not the face and it would still be called a penalty. The thing is, we can debate about penalties and non penalties all day long. Its alll about consistency, if ur gonna call penalties against one team, the same rules should be in effect for the other aswell. Right now i dont believe it is the same.

hitting the visor is making contact, so yes that would be a penalty..

[Soundy]

Originally Posted by 7seven

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26352

For a high sticking penalty to be issued, contact must be made.

Someone needs to refresh the refs on this one then, I can think of plenty of instances I've seen a high stick called with the stick just being waved up in the vicinity of another player.

[Tapioca]

Originally Posted by BlueG2

What did Rome and Alberts really do to use their size against the Hawks that Ballard didn't do? I have a suspiscion that Ballard is not 100% and that is why he is scratched/has had minimal ice time. There is no way AV is picking on Ballard just because. Ballard probably has been playing all season and playoffs because rome alberts salo and edler were all hurt at the same time.. and then Tanev went down... I will bet Ballard has and is 75% most of the season.... That knee tweak against the Coyotes was probably more than we think too....

A couple of times in the series, Ballard has looked unsure of himself in the corners and flubbed the puck, etc. It could be an injury, or it could be a case of not knowing how to handle pressure in the corners. I'm willing to bet it's the latter, but we won't know until the end of the season.

Alberts played well along the boards and made a couple of nice passes out of trouble last night. He does have problems in the open ice, like on the winning goal in OT. I will also say that I have more confidence in Alberts getting out of trouble than Ballard - he makes the simple play while Ballard will try to skate around behind the net and then try to cut out into the middle.

[b0unce. [?]]

I think Alberts is pretty solid overall. Man, I wish we had Chris Tanev still, that guy was legit.

[Spidey]

Originally Posted by Tapioca

A couple of times in the series, Ballard has looked unsure of himself in the corners and flubbed the puck, etc. It could be an injury, or it could be a case of not knowing how to handle pressure in the corners. I'm willing to bet it's the latter, but we won't know until the end of the season.

Alberts played well along the boards and made a couple of nice passes out of trouble last night. He does have problems in the open ice, like on the winning goal in OT. I will also say that I have more confidence in Alberts getting out of trouble than Ballard - he makes the simple play while Ballard will try to skate around behind the net and then try to cut out into the middle.

true... but alberts is also brutal on the point.. he couldnt get the puck through to the net if his life depended on it... for a guy his size, he should be able to crank the puck too... but id be surprised if his shot was harder than... ryan smyths.....

[InvisibleSoul]

Originally Posted by Soundy

Someone needs to refresh the refs on this one then, I can think of plenty of instances I've seen a high stick called with the stick just being waved up in the vicinity of another player.

That's odd. I wouldn't doubt that you've watched a lot more hockey than I have in our lifetimes, but I can't recall seeing one of those called. It's not a penalty unless there's contact. I mean, players have their sticks high all the time... they only get called if they were careless with it and contacts someone with it.

[Domed]

ive seen phantom high sticking calls where a player snapped his head back and the ref thought he was highsticked thus calling the penalty. aside from that no point argueing about missed/bad calls whats done is done and lets just focus on tuesday and believe in the canucks!

[Spidey]

the thing about this series is that of the 3 wins the canucks have had.. it was only 1 game that they dominated and should have won handedly.. and tht was game 1.. game 2 was close and the hawks had a lot of bad bounces... game 3 was up in the air... game 4 and 5 were hands down hawks... game 6 the canucks should have won but didnt.. SO with that said.. are the canucks lucky there is a game 7???

the best team will win game 7

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by scottsman

Any one speculate what the fans at the Canucks game will do if they lose game 7? After the season the Canucks have had I dont think too many people will be clapping for them.

If they lose, it will take an all-out, balls-to-the-walls effort for me not to be totally disappointed in them. If they lose terribly, I'd just walk out. If they go down fighting to the last man, then I can't blame them.

Teams lose. Someone has to. Expecting the Canucks to never lose is just silly. I think all real fans want is for them to give it all they got rather than play like they don't care.

I don't blame them for losing game 6. The goals against were retarded but they played hard. I sort of blame AV for game 6.

[willystyle]

delete. wrong thread!

[DanHibiki]

Originally Posted by BlueG2

the thing about this series is that of the 3 wins the canucks have had.. it was only 1 game that they dominated and should have won handedly.. and tht was game 1.. game 2 was close and the hawks had a lot of bad bounces... game 3 was up in the air... game 4 and 5 were hands down hawks... game 6 the canucks should have won but didnt.. SO with that said.. are the canucks lucky there is a game 7???

the best team will win game 7

The only flaw I saw in game 2 was Luongo wasn't playing very well. Other than that the team played good.

And even though game 3 was a close one, I never felt the Canucks weren't in control. Even after being tied 2-2, you just felt the Canucks were all like "don't worry bro, I got this".

[Oleophobic]

man last night's lost still stings.

not because we didn't play well, in fact, we played amazing, but because we had so many good chances and couldn't bury them while they had limited chances but got the goal.

Game 7
Whether it's luongo or schneider in net (hoping Luongo), we just have to play our game and we will win. Fuck the "play our game" line is repeated so often it doesn't even mean much anymore.

[e60m5]

Originally Posted by Soundy

Funny... I have.

go get your eyes checked.

[Durrann]

Originally Posted by Ronin

If they lose, it will take an all-out, balls-to-the-walls effort for me not to be totally disappointed in them. If they lose terribly, I'd just walk out. If they go down fighting to the last man, then I can't blame them.

Teams lose. Someone has to. Expecting the Canucks to never lose is just silly. I think all real fans want is for them to give it all they got rather than play like they don't care.

I don't blame them for losing game 6. The goals against were retarded but they played hard. I sort of blame AV for game 6.

good points bro
i agree if canucks played their hardest on game 7 ..im cool with that...
but then again... they should've played their hardest every game as a matter of fact
games 4 and 5 they pissed away

and just curiious why blame AV for game 6?

[spoon.ek9]

ugh, tuesday can't come soon enough. i've said many times during this season that it might not be our time just yet. most of us here are always cautiously optimistic (despite our great achievements this year). all the stanley cup talk is just that, talk!

i will without a doubt still be a fan no matter what happens tmrw. if they play as well as they did last night, i won't be nearly as upset as i was after games 4 and 5. We still have our core locked up and i have plenty of faith in Gillis.

GO CANUCKS GO!

[hotshot1]

I think to advance in the playoffs and ultimately win the cup, your best players have to be your best players but this hasn't been the case with the Sedins and Luongo.

I'm scared they might have a career similar to Mats Sundin (Good for a long time, never win the cup), who they learned from.

[lilaznviper]

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[spideyv2]

Originally Posted by Soundy

Show me in the rulebook where a high stick has to actually contact the player or his equipment before it's called a penalty?

that's the dumbest thing I seen you post. Wow. That actually pissed me off a bit
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