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same chance if we see a half asses flopping crawford
We've got as good a chance as hawks, if not better, to win tomorrow's game. Whoever's in net, whoever's playing D, whoever's playing forward, who gives a shit. Bring your A game and we will win game 7 !!
ok, so if we see a half assed flopping luongo, what are the chances of us winning?
chances are not very high... but what if luuu plays a great game but our offense don't score any goals for him like they have been doing this whole year, and what if our defense provides little help defensively.. i guess u can say every single team playing "all depend" on the goalie then eh? forget about team game.. forget about the offense and defense to help out right....
Isn't this why we watch hockey? For all the ups, and all the downs. For epic collapses and epic comebacks. For goals scored in triple O.T in game 7. Heros and villans made. I know its cliche but it's history in the making (sports history). My team is the home team, the Vancouver Canucks. I will support them to the end and every season because for all the negatives, they do bring me positives and enjoyment which makes that shitty day at work, or the fight with the GF go that much easier. They also bring me memories and a sense of pride.
I like this.
If you guys want to watch guaranteed-win night, go watch an action flick. If you want to watch what sports is all about, watch game 7 Tuesday night.
As for the officiating, it hasn't been fair, but championship teams know when to "bend" the rules and how get away with it, and that has a real impact on the end result.
Isn't karma a bitch? Bickell won't play game 7 for the Hawks. After trying to take off Bieksa's head with that cheap hit in game 6, the scumbag is gonna get surgery.
I hope the refs put Bolland into the penalty box for all the cheap slashes he puts on the Sedins. Granted, the twins have not played the best hockey for the entire series. However, what Bolland is doing to Henrik and Daniel is assault with a weapon, a hockey stick!! The zebras are a joke.
fucking boggles my mind how bickell got away with that hit on bieksa. seemed pretty similar to the torres hit every time i replay both and compare. no penalty, no suspension. complete shit. they also got away with the ice cleaning (which i missed when i was in the bathroom)
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Isn't karma a bitch? Bickell won't play game 7 for the Hawks. After trying to take off Bieksa's head with that cheap hit in game 6, the scumbag is gonna get surgery.
I hope the refs put Bolland into the penalty box for all the cheap slashes he puts on the Sedins. Granted, the twins have not played the best hockey for the entire series. However, what Bolland is doing to Henrik and Daniel is assault with a weapon, a hockey stick!! The zebras are a joke.
i would rather have bolland taken out on a stretcher. that guy is a fuck.
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When have Canucks fans not put all the blame on the Goalie? They don't call Vancouver the goalie graveyard for nothing.
When Captain Kirk stoned Robert Reichel in Game 7 and single-handedly won us Game 1 in the Finals... all the while Jeff Brown was banging his wife at home. That's the epitome of mental toughness.
Not very good! I'm not saying we can win with a mediocre performance from our goalie. I'm saying you can't put the onus on him alone. Which, in your original post, is exactly how you came across.
From what most people say or seem to THINK... luongo either plays good or bad.. ie the canucks either win or lose (for the most part)... so when someone says something like "it depends which luongo shows up) I would assume they mean if luongo plays either horrible or good/great.
That is how I read it as.. So the onus is on him if he plays shitty or good.. but if he plays OK and reliable.. we can still win... Just don't let in bad goals and the Canucks are fine.. but with that said.. of all the goals that he let in in games 4 and 5, I can honestly only think of maybe 2 that were his fault. Having the players in front of you that don't do their job or assignments can really make the goalie look bad. odd men rushes and breakaways are not the only thing that says the D and players are not playing well.. There are small assignments in your own zone that can create a whirl wind of hell for a goalie if the team in front of you don't do their individual jobs.
fucking boggles my mind how bickell got away with that hit on bieksa. seemed pretty similar to the torres hit every time i replay both and compare. no penalty, no suspension. complete shit. they also got away with the ice cleaning (which i missed when i was in the bathroom)
How many times do I have to repeat this?
The Torres hit wasn't a penalty for the charging, blindside, or elbowing, or anyhting like that. It was interference.
If you are saying the Bickell hit was like the Torres hit, with the exception that Bieksa had the buck, then you should understand exactly why one was a penalty. One was for interference, one wasn't.
^Bickells hit was different. He left his feet and used his elbow(debatable). So thats why Gillis and everyone that wasnt wearing a ref shirt, thought it was at the very least a charging penalty
The Torres hit wasn't a penalty for the charging, blindside, or elbowing, or anyhting like that. It was interference.
If you are saying the Bickell hit was like the Torres hit, with the exception that Bieksa had the buck, then you should understand exactly why one was a penalty. One was for interference, one wasn't.
Agreed for the most part, but Bickell left his feet. That's why the hit is different and should have been a penalty.
The Torres hit wasn't a penalty for the charging, blindside, or elbowing, or anyhting like that. It was interference.
If you are saying the Bickell hit was like the Torres hit, with the exception that Bieksa had the buck, then you should understand exactly why one was a penalty. One was for interference, one wasn't.
So are you saying that Bickell shouldn't have gotten a charging penalty?
^Bickells hit was different. He left his feet and used his elbow(debatable). So thats why Gillis and everyone that wasnt wearing a ref shirt, thought it was at the very least a charging penalty
Then it WASN'T the same as the Torres hit
If you want to argue a penalty, fine. But don't say "it was just like the Torres hit so it should have been a penalty". Because the hit part of the Torres hit wasn't the penalty, the interference was.
I would argue that both should be penalties and game misconducts followed by suspensions.
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So are you saying that Bickell shouldn't have gotten a charging penalty?
I'm saying it wasn't the same as the Torres hit, that's all.
The Torres hit wasn't a penalty for the charging, blindside, or elbowing, or anyhting like that. It was interference.
If you are saying the Bickell hit was like the Torres hit, with the exception that Bieksa had the buck, then you should understand exactly why one was a penalty. One was for interference, one wasn't.
the torres hit was a cop out call for the refs not knowing how to fucking react to a hit that crippled seabrook. if you look the puck IS in the area, and interference is a lame call for a play like that.. it actually would have made more sense if they called it a charge... people actually wouldn't have complained as much if it were a charge (except canuck fans)
the torres hit was a cop out call for the refs not knowing how to fucking react to a hit that crippled seabrook. if you look the puck IS in the area, and interference is a lame call for a play like that.. it actually would have made more sense if they called it a charge... people actually wouldn't have complained as much if it were a charge (except canuck fans)
Just saying, the call was interference, so it wasn't the same as the hit on Bieksa.
Canucks fans just want everything to go their way, 100% of the time. Sometimes it doesn't.
That disparity in penalty minutes is somewhat troubling though
lol, thanks for the video.
I like how I was the only one bitching about the horrible officiating last night,
but apparently someone else thought the officiating was fine.
At least we have video evidence now.
Torres and Bickell hit looked similar... but wasn't the same.
But either way, Torres got the call for interference, and Bickell should have got a call for charging.
Even if we throw this out, all the other more obvious things like highstick in the face, puck over the glass,
timeout to clean the ice, stick breaking, there's just too many things that didn't get called that are not even
borderline.
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Im just very glad this is out in the open now. Its made its way onto NHL.com and probably being talked about around the league. This can only be good for the Canucks cause now they dont have to worry about the bad officiating. With that being said
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