REVscene Automotive Forum

REVscene Automotive Forum (https://www.revscene.net/forums/)
-   Vancouver Off-Topic / Current Events (https://www.revscene.net/forums/vancouver-off-topic-current-events_50/)
-   -   The Official 2010/2011 Canucks Thread (https://www.revscene.net/forums/617486-official-2010-2011-canucks-thread.html)

Not really racist! 09-01-2010 09:38 PM

^ o fuck me..

-_-

CRS 09-01-2010 09:38 PM

Only if the NHLPA refuses.

OhSoGood 09-01-2010 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hype (Post 7088921)
For something to wear to the game, nothings wrong with the premiers. I've got 2 myself and the quality is just fine, and so is the fit. Don't get me wrong I know my jerseys, and know what a quality authentic is like, but for the average person, replica's will do the trick.

the authentic and rep is totallllly different. even wearing one feels different.

orange7 09-01-2010 10:01 PM

if lu's contract gets voided, any change that schneider will become the starter at a much cheaper price?

Expresso 09-01-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raygunpk (Post 7088976)
NHL gives Players Assn. ultimatum on Kovalchuk, Luongo, Hossa

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/devil...ixzz0yKoS9N001


That is pretty crazy. All this is like foreshadowing to a long battle for the next CBA. I really hope there is not another work stoppage.

But hrmm...signing niemi and keeping bieska would be interesting haha.

b0unce. [?] 09-01-2010 10:36 PM

I prob need to line up right when the mall opens? fuck.

Noir 09-01-2010 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 7089010)
Only if the NHLPA refuses.

And if they agree, it bumps up Lu's cap hit from $5.5M to almost $7.65M. It really puts the team in more of a cap trouble funk because despite Salo and Burrs on IR, I want them back asap.

CRS 09-01-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir (Post 7089120)
And if they agree, it bumps up Lu's cap hit from $5.5M to almost $7.65M. It really puts the team in more of a cap trouble funk because despite Salo and Burrs on IR, I want them back asap.

No.

It will be grandfathered.

Quote:

A well placed source reports that the league has informed the Players' Assn. that the league will grandfather the recently submitted Kovalchuk 15-year, $100M contract, Luongo's 12-year, $64M deal that is entering its second season and Hossa's 12-year, $63.3M deal that also is entering its second season into the CBA under the following conditions:

1. That the cap hit on future multi-year contracts will not count any seasons that end with the player over 40 years of age. The cap hit would be calculated on the average of the salary up through age 40 only.
2. That the cap hit on future contracts longer than five years will be calculated under a formula granting additional weight to the five years with the highest salary.


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/devil...#ixzz0yM0gOIh3

Noir 09-01-2010 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 7089127)
No.

It will be grandfathered.

Oh thanks dude. I missed that tidbit. I skimmed straight through the conditions.

Vansterdam 09-02-2010 05:53 AM

shit anyone going to the sedin signing? i wanna get my jersey signed but dont want to wait forever in line lol

7seven 09-02-2010 06:19 AM

I don't really buy that article, why, because its written by Larry Brooks who is well known for pulling random bs out of his ass, he's almost as bad as Botchford when it comes to making shit up. In Brooks' article, he also says Luongo is entering the second year of his new deal, ummm Lu's new contract kicks in this season Brooks' :rolleyes:

7seven 09-02-2010 06:52 AM

just as I figured, from Dreger's twitter

Quote:

DarrenDreger

NHL sources say no ultimatum was given to the NHLPA. 35 minutes ago via web

spoon.ek9 09-02-2010 09:01 AM

^ hahah nice.

CRS 09-02-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

As the Ilya Kovalchuk contract drama continues to spin, there is a new twist, with the New York Post reporting that the NHL has issued an ultimatum to the NHLPA regarding front-end heavy contracts - specifically Kovalchuk's deal with the Devils, Roberto Luongo's with Vancouver and Marian Hossa's with Chicago.

On Wednesday, league sources told TSN that no ultimatum had been issued, but the NHL and NHLPA did agree to extend the deadline for a decision on the Kovalchuk deal until Friday at 5pm et.

While the source told TSN that there were some elements contained in the Post report that had been discussed, neither side feels any sense of pressure from the other.

The Player's Association say that they continue to negotiate with the league in an effort to deal with the issues that have plagued long-term contracts and they say that discussions are ongoing.

The Post reported that the NHL had told the NHLPA that it would grandfather the Kovalchuk, Luongo and Hossa deals under two conditions:

1. "That the cap hit on future multi-year contracts will not count any seasons that end with the player over 40 years of age. The cap hit would be calculated on the average of the salary up through age 40 only."

2. "That the cap hit on future contracts longer than five years will be calculated under a formula granting additional weight to the five years with the highest salary."

If the NHLPA does not accept these, the Post reported that the NHL would reject the Kovalchuk contract, start the process of doing the same to Luongo's deal, and open an investigtion in the Hossa deal.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=332412

shawn79 09-02-2010 09:27 AM

its 930am to 1230pm?

jerche 09-02-2010 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HachiSix (Post 7089032)
That is pretty crazy. All this is like foreshadowing to a long battle for the next CBA. I really hope there is not another work stoppage.

But hrmm...signing niemi and keeping bieska would be interesting haha.

Too bad niemi just signed with the sharks for $2M

Ronin 09-02-2010 12:25 PM

I don't know how they can legally do this. These contracts are not in violation of the current CBA. Yes, they are a loophole but there's nothing against the rules here. How on earth does the NHL have the leverage to say they'll void these contracts if the PA doesn't do this?

stuff99 09-02-2010 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vansterdam (Post 7089322)
shit anyone going to the sedin signing? i wanna get my jersey signed but dont want to wait forever in line lol

What Sedin signing?

411ken 09-02-2010 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuff99 (Post 7089604)
What Sedin signing?

http://www.gamestop.ca/NHLLAUNCH

Game launch signing

Expresso 09-02-2010 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 7089603)
I don't know how they can legally do this. These contracts are not in violation of the current CBA. Yes, they are a loophole but there's nothing against the rules here. How on earth does the NHL have the leverage to say they'll void these contracts if the PA doesn't do this?

It's Gary Bettman, that's why.

woob 09-02-2010 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 7089603)
I don't know how they can legally do this. These contracts are not in violation of the current CBA. Yes, they are a loophole but there's nothing against the rules here. How on earth does the NHL have the leverage to say they'll void these contracts if the PA doesn't do this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 7089452)
As the Ilya Kovalchuk contract drama continues to spin, there is a new twist, with the New York Post reporting that the NHL has issued an ultimatum to the NHLPA regarding front-end heavy contracts - specifically Kovalchuk's deal with the Devils, Roberto Luongo's with Vancouver and Marian Hossa's with Chicago.

On Wednesday, league sources told TSN that no ultimatum had been issued, but the NHL and NHLPA did agree to extend the deadline for a decision on the Kovalchuk deal until Friday at 5pm et.

While the source told TSN that there were some elements contained in the Post report that had been discussed, neither side feels any sense of pressure from the other.

The Player's Association say that they continue to negotiate with the league in an effort to deal with the issues that have plagued long-term contracts and they say that discussions are ongoing.

The Post reported that the NHL had told the NHLPA that it would grandfather the Kovalchuk, Luongo and Hossa deals under two conditions:

1. "That the cap hit on future multi-year contracts will not count any seasons that end with the player over 40 years of age. The cap hit would be calculated on the average of the salary up through age 40 only."

2. "That the cap hit on future contracts longer than five years will be calculated under a formula granting additional weight to the five years with the highest salary."

If the NHLPA does not accept these, the Post reported that the NHL would reject the Kovalchuk contract, start the process of doing the same to Luongo's deal, and open an investigtion in the Hossa deal.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=332412

C'mon guys, read the articles.... Lu's contract is safe for now. The Post, and all articles derived from the Post (i.e. Botchford in today's Province) are either spewing shit about things they obviously know nothing about or are wildly misinterpreting third-party information.

Gumby 09-02-2010 02:47 PM

Single game tickets to go on sale Friday, September 10th at 10am.

InvisibleSoul 09-02-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 7089603)
I don't know how they can legally do this. These contracts are not in violation of the current CBA. Yes, they are a loophole but there's nothing against the rules here. How on earth does the NHL have the leverage to say they'll void these contracts if the PA doesn't do this?

The article claimed the following:

Quote:

The NHL owns sweeping punitive powers against teams and players judged guilty of circumvention under Article 26 of the CBA.

Expresso 09-02-2010 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woob (Post 7089753)
C'mon guys, read the articles.... Lu's contract is safe for now. The Post, and all articles derived from the Post (i.e. Botchford in today's Province) are either spewing shit about things they obviously know nothing about or are wildly misinterpreting third-party information.

I don't think that was his point. I think what he meant was how this whole gong show started. None of the existing contracts are in violation of the CBA. The definition of circumvention isn't clearly defined in the CBA, so now we have this.

Not really racist! 09-02-2010 03:52 PM

I'm sure some of us already know but Hammer is getting #2 for sure

http://canucks.nhl.tv/team/console.j...s-fb-hamhuis-v


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:06 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Revscene.net cannot be held accountable for the actions of its members nor does the opinions of the members represent that of Revscene.net