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MR_BIGGS 09-07-2010 04:18 PM

What is the deal with Hodgson? The organization seems to be hush hush about him and he seems to be seperated from the rookie group.

He is not playing in the young stars game but should be taking part in the rookie physicals if he's healthy??

MR_BIGGS 09-07-2010 04:22 PM

What's Up With Hodgson? Nobody Really Knows

Quote:

“He just wasn’t ready. We really believe this young man has a tremendous amount of upside but, at the end of the day, he didn’t show any signs that he was ready to play at this level. After analyzing it and talking about it, we felt the best thing for him was to go back to junior and his team.”

Those were the words of Canucks coach Alain Vigneault late last September after the club decided to send Cody Hodgson back to Brampton of the OHL following the top prospect's less-than-impressive performance in the pre-season.

“I think Cody is a very young man who hasn’t had a lot of disappointments throughout his life. He’s probably having as tough time, personally, dealing with this one and trying to find a reason why it happened. We’ve all had times where we’ve encountered disappointment and tried to roll the [blame] in a different direction. We’ve all been through those things. Cody will learn from this.”

That was Vigneault a couple of days later, suggesting that Hodgson was using his bad back as an excuse for the demotion. The Canucks had previously claimed he was fit to play the pre-season. But Hodgson got a second opinion and subsequently missed most of last season rehabbing his back.

From an optics standpoint, it didn't look good.

Predictably, rumours of a rift between Hodgson and the Canucks grew, though in February that was denied by Vancouver GM Mike Gillis.

Hodgson, meanwhile, wasn't willing to go into detail about it:

Asked if he'd spoken to Canucks head coach Alain Vigneault about the latter's suggestion that Hodgson might be using his injury as an excuse for his demotion to junior, he said: “No. I'm not looking back now. The only thing I'm concerned with is my play and getting better.”

And ever since, Canucks fans have been dying to know what's up with Hodgson. Does he have a problem with the coach and/or management? Is his back totally screwed or what? Because it still wasn't 100 percent in April when it was reported he wouldn't be suiting up for the Manitoba Moose in the AHL playoffs.

So far, all anyone's been able to do is speculate, because, not surprisingly, nobody's talking. Or if they are talking, they're not saying anything meaningful.

All of which brings us to the news that Hodgson was absent from today's skate at Rogers Arena:

But perhaps the most puzzling absence was prospect Cody Hodgson, who's apparently still working in Toronto with former NHL player and fitness guru Gary Roberts while players such as Jeff Tambellini, Victor Oreskovich and prospect Jordan Schroeder are already here preparing to fight for a Canucks job.

Canucks assistant GM Laurence Gilman said Hodgson – the Canucks' first round pick (10th overall) in 2008 – needs to finish his program with Roberts before heading to Vancouver.

Hodgson suffered a bulging disc in his back in the summer of 2009, which caused him to struggle in last year's preseason with the Canucks and subsequently forced him to miss the first four months of his junior season in Brampton.

“He's working on core training and he's got a regime that he needs to finish,” said Gilman.

Gilman said Hodgson is expected to be at the prospects physicals at Rogers Arena on Friday, but it's uncertain if the 20-year-old centre will play in the prospects tournament in Penticton.

“'For any player, we want to make sure he's fit to play,” said Gilman. “We haven't had a chance to conduct a (recent) medical evaluation (on Hodgson).”

So again Canucks fans are left wondering, what's up with Hodgson?

http://communities.canada.com/thepro...lly-knows.aspx

Ronin 09-07-2010 04:31 PM

Hamhuis just got here. We all laughed when Phaneuf was named captain of the Leafs.

Kesler is my choice. I think Hank would do a good job as well but Kesler has the potential to be a great captain. Seriously, in the years since Linden's decline, has anyone but Kesler shown the potential to be the sort of guy that's "Hop on my back, boys! We're winning this game if it kills me!" That's why I thought it was okay for Louie to be captain...because that's the sort of guy he is as well. He'll go beast mode and steal us games but apparently the pressure is too much for him.

That's the sort of game he showed us during the Olympics. I don't know if he was hurt or what during the playoffs but that's the sort of game I expect from him from now on.

Hondaracer 09-07-2010 04:44 PM

the main question regarding Kes and the C is always his maturity

clowe 09-07-2010 05:04 PM

Here's a few custom NHL 11 covers that I found:

http://a.imageshack.us/img829/3732/p...sedintwins.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img840/2227/ps3nhl11datsyuk.jpg

Mike Richards, Drew Doughty, Ryan Getzlaf, Dion Phaneuf

punkwax 09-07-2010 05:43 PM

Man, I would be so bummed if Hodgson was a bust. I was so f'in stoked about him and now all the secrecy is starting to get to me.

It was such a tragic loss with Bourdon and it would be a tough pill for any Canuck fan to swallow losing 2 blue chip prospects due to tragedy and injury in such a short time span.

trancehead 09-07-2010 05:51 PM

-CHL player of the year or whatever (over Tavares)
-had a great jr olympics (or whatever intl tourny it was called)
he was dubbed the Stamkos who couldnt skate as well. If he turns out half as decent as Stamkos..id be happy

411ken 09-07-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 7095484)
I'd like to see Kesler or Hamhuis as captain. Basically any Canadian/American kid that's signed on long term.

Why the heck would you name Hamhuis as captain? would you really make someone the captain on his 1styear with the team after signing as a FA? lol

I think Kesler fits the bill just fine though. But my money goes to Lu getting 1 more year as captain.. see how it goes with this team

!Nhan 09-07-2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowe (Post 7095723)
Here's a few custom NHL 11 covers that I found:

http://a.imageshack.us/img829/3732/p...sedintwins.jpg

where'd you find these?

MR_BIGGS 09-07-2010 06:11 PM

^^ That one is SICK!

DanHibiki 09-07-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 7095786)
Why the heck would you name Hamhuis as captain? would you really make someone the captain on his 1styear with the team after signing as a FA? lol

Mark Messier :troll:

!Nhan 09-07-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS (Post 7095814)
^^ That one is SICK!

it's slightly bigger than the normal ps3 inserts

Ch28 09-07-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 7095786)
Why the heck would you name Hamhuis as captain? would you really make someone the captain on his 1styear with the team after signing as a FA? lol

I think Kesler fits the bill just fine though. But my money goes to Lu getting 1 more year as captain.. see how it goes with this team

I just threw his name out there because he's young and he's a good local bc boy that you know will play his heart out every single game.

You need character guys like tat to lead by example.

I'm sure whoever we have as captain will be a good choice anyways. Look at it when Luongo was captain. It was basically Ohlund + Mitchell always talking to the refs. Leadership isn't defined by the letter on your sweater.

Tim Budong 09-07-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonogunn8 (Post 7095840)
Mark Messier :troll:

trevor linden's worst move as a canuck
give moose the C

DanHibiki 09-07-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 7095854)
trevor linden's worst move as a canuck
give moose the C

Wasn't his choice. He was pressured by management and everyone.

Ch28 09-07-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonogunn8 (Post 7095864)
Wasn't his choice. He was pressured by management and everyone.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_k5WabZEm3W...n_ks_180sm.jpghttp://assets.sbnation.com/assets/14...ge1_medium.jpg


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Ch28 09-07-2010 06:46 PM

Fuck

Now I want to punch my monitor seeing that stupid smirk on Messier's face

b0unce. [?] 09-07-2010 06:48 PM

I remember hearing Hodgson speaking about how he had no competition anymore in the AHL and he wanted his chance at the NHL. IMO, I feel like we should give our rookies more chances in the big league and let them gain some more experience and knowledge so they can develop. Sure you can say some teams 'have no choice' but to throw their rookies in right away, but you look at detroit and see their scouting team and organization, they tend to give their rookies a shot to see how well they do. Other than the preseason games + a couple reg season games, hodgson hasn't gotten a solid chance at proving himself.

clowe 09-07-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Nhan (Post 7095809)
where'd you find these?

EA Forums

dbaz 09-07-2010 07:03 PM

I dont see how Hodgson thinks he has no more competition in the AHL, I could see CHL but not AHL. He played 11 games and got 6 points, in comparison Schroeder had 15 pts in 17games and a ppg in the playoffs. Kid needs to stop overhyping himself and just play hockey hes going to spend most of the year in Manitoba anyways.

orange7 09-07-2010 07:06 PM

haha.. if he doesn't play on the nhl this year. We lose him next year since he won't resign with us.

quasi 09-07-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b0unce. [?] (Post 7095882)
I remember hearing Hodgson speaking about how he had no competition anymore in the AHL and he wanted his chance at the NHL. IMO, I feel like we should give our rookies more chances in the big league and let them gain some more experience and knowledge so they can develop. Sure you can say some teams 'have no choice' but to throw their rookies in right away, but you look at detroit and see their scouting team and organization, they tend to give their rookies a shot to see how well they do. Other than the preseason games + a couple reg season games, hodgson hasn't gotten a solid chance at proving himself.

This is one thing I hate about Canucks development. I understand they want there players to develop at the junior and AHL levels and not bring them up to soon but they seem to error on the side of caution to often. If there hurt they cannot play obviously but give them an opportunity to prove themselves even if it means leaving them up after a bunch of shitty performances. I also realize if they play a certain amount of games up then the year counts as a full year and you lose a year of eligibility but they still need to take that risk more often IMO.

trancehead 09-07-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b0unce. [?] (Post 7095882)
I remember hearing Hodgson speaking about how he had no competition anymore in the AHL and he wanted his chance at the NHL. IMO, I feel like we should give our rookies more chances in the big league and let them gain some more experience and knowledge so they can develop. Sure you can say some teams 'have no choice' but to throw their rookies in right away, but you look at detroit and see their scouting team and organization, they tend to give their rookies a shot to see how well they do. Other than the preseason games + a couple reg season games, hodgson hasn't gotten a solid chance at proving himself.

Detroits quite the opposite
They are in NO rush to send any of their prospects to the big leagues and would rather they mature correctly in the right places.

look at Jimmy howard, zetterberg, datsyuk, jonathan ericsson (DEAD Last pic in the draft), Franzen (i think)

All these guys were NOT rushed

Harvey Specter 09-07-2010 07:48 PM

Kesler would be my choice as well. Mitchell would have been my other choice if he was around.

punkwax 09-07-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b0unce. [?] (Post 7095882)
I remember hearing Hodgson speaking about how he had no competition anymore in the AHL and he wanted his chance at the NHL. IMO, I feel like we should give our rookies more chances in the big league and let them gain some more experience and knowledge so they can develop. Sure you can say some teams 'have no choice' but to throw their rookies in right away, but you look at detroit and see their scouting team and organization, they tend to give their rookies a shot to see how well they do. Other than the preseason games + a couple reg season games, hodgson hasn't gotten a solid chance at proving himself.

He didn't get to play AHL until his CHL season was over due to his age. Perhaps he didn't feel challenged in CHL. I doubt he'd say that about a league he's hardly played in.


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