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Old 12-05-2010, 02:05 PM   #9851
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imo, that is why people may be saying as of now "OMG Thomas for Vezina!!!!" but in reality, Lu is wayyyy more technically sound [as displayed by Thomas's 3rd period goal in whish Lu would -never- be caught on]
Thomas for Vezina because he's leading the NHL in save %, GAA, shut-outs. check out the stats page on nhl.com, his face is everywhere.

You're right, in reality, Lu IS way more technically sound, because that's his game, strong technical butterfly goaltending. Because that's just what the modern butterfly is, a scientific approach to goaltending. In contrast to the butterfly, you got Tim Thomas, flopper, Hasek, flopper, and Ryan Miller, a hybrid who are pretty good goalies..

Ryan Miller was pretty damn scary in the 2010 Olympics..

Vezina's aren't awarded to the "most technically sound" goalie. Even if this was so, Luongo still wouldn't win, hahaha.
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Old 12-05-2010, 02:55 PM   #9853
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i would still take Lu over Thomas ANYDAY. Thomas plays for one of the best defensive teams in the league.

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I don't think the shot was headed for his glove. Thomas dived for it.

I'm not a Lu hater but to suggest Thomas isn't as good because he flops around is silly. That's like saying Dominic Hasek was terrible because he flops around his net wildly.

If the puck stays out of the net, that's a good goaltender. By the way, Thomas being out of position has resulted in a GAA of under 2...something like 1.45. Louie's great positioning has got him a 2.5. Until Lu wins a Vezina like Thomas has, your argument is invalid.
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Thomas for Vezina because he's leading the NHL in save %, GAA, shut-outs. check out the stats page on nhl.com, his face is everywhere.

You're right, in reality, Lu IS way more technically sound, because that's his game, strong technical butterfly goaltending. Because that's just what the modern butterfly is, a scientific approach to goaltending. In contrast to the butterfly, you got Tim Thomas, flopper, Hasek, flopper, and Ryan Miller, a hybrid who are pretty good goalies..

Ryan Miller was pretty damn scary in the 2010 Olympics..

Vezina's aren't awarded to the "most technically sound" goalie. Even if this was so, Luongo still wouldn't win, hahaha.
until the golden goal heh. i can't remember who, but one of his teammates stared him down after that goal. i think a lot of us will remember that goal for life.
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Thomas is good, but in reality these days in the NHL, how effective can that flopping style be long-term? as said above he plays on a very sound defensive team

not to take anything away from him, he's obviously good and has won the vezina in the past, but time will tell if that style will hold up, especially when you have Rask biting at the spot as well
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Thomas is good, but in reality these days in the NHL, how effective can that flopping style be long-term? as said above he plays on a very sound defensive team

not to take anything away from him, he's obviously good and has won the vezina in the past, but time will tell if that style will hold up, especially when you have Rask biting at the spot as well
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i would still take Lu over Thomas ANYDAY. Thomas plays for one of the best defensive teams in the league.
Also not much of an argument.

Thomas has faced MORE shots than Luongo in FEWER games and has MUCH higher GAA. He's clearly playing lights out so far this season and is the early frontrunner for the Vezina. If you think he isn't, then you are just wrong. I'd say only Carey Price...yes, Carey Price, has been close so far with about a quarter of the season behind us.

Yes, I would take Louie long term over Thomas but clearly Thomas is the better goalie so far about 20 games in. Are you really going to argue with a stat line like THIS:

18GP - 13W, 2L, 2OTL
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this is another one of those meme's though

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if he didnt already have a vezina he would be talked about kind of like how howard is talked about
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'06-07 Hasek had 38 wins, 11 losses and 6 OTL with a 2.05 GAA and a 0.913 SV%.

Sure, he played for Detroit but STILL.

Heck, he's playing in the Czech league right now and he's still doing pretty damned good. If he doesn't make the HOF, it's a travesty.

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Thomas is good, but in reality these days in the NHL, how effective can that flopping style be long-term? as said above he plays on a very sound defensive team

not to take anything away from him, he's obviously good and has won the vezina in the past, but time will tell if that style will hold up, especially when you have Rask biting at the spot as well
I'll say it again...it doesn't matter what style a goalie plays. He could actually stand on his head for all I care. If the puck isn't going in the net, that guy is a good goaltender.

Long term? There's some truth to that...I mean, Thomas was horrid last year.
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I'll say it again...it doesn't matter what style a goalie plays. He could actually stand on his head for all I care. If the puck isn't going in the net, that guy is a good goaltender.

Long term? There's some truth to that...I mean, Thomas was horrid last year.
Actually contrary to popular belief. Thomas was not horrible last year. He had a .915 save %. About the same has Luongo's last year. He was overtaken because Rask played outstanding and now he's playing outstanding and has the #1 job back.
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