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Old 12-27-2010, 12:50 AM   #11501
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Ok I have something I need to clarify.....

So theres no way we have cap space to keep both salo and bieksa? I was just reading something on sportnet inferring that if the Canucks manage the cap right, we could afford to have both?
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doesn't anyone else here think that Gillis has ... suggested ... to AV that he should let Bieksa join the rush/start the rush more? ... that was my immediate thought from 10 games or whatever it was ago when he started to become noticeable.

i may or may not be imagining things, but i totally think that they are trying to raise his value. anyone else think that or am i just on crazy pills?
As much as people hate on him, Bieksa is a very good puck mover and puckhandler, and hasn't been noticeably bad in his own end since the start of the season.
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Ok I have something I need to clarify.....

So theres no way we have cap space to keep both salo and bieksa? I was just reading something on sportnet inferring that if the Canucks manage the cap right, we could afford to have both?
well anything is possible. Its kinda hard to figure out cap space ect with all the callups and and injuries we've been having. Burrows missed like 10 games, and Raymond will have probably missed the same amount with his broken thumb, and Hamhius with his early injury. It all adds up in the Canucks favor. Salo isnt due back till Feb i believe, so hes gonna miss more than half the season, so his cap hit is less than half his salary depending on when he comes back. So its very possible for us to have them both.
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^ Are you sure that's how the cap system works?
I thought it was differently then that.
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^ Are you sure that's how the cap system works?
I thought it was differently then that.
Simply put, it's who we have on the bench at any given time (not including healthy scratches iirc).
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it's going to be interesting how the lines get juggled upon raymond's return. with samuelsson and torres scoring again, it'll be a tough call who gets bumped down now.

btw, great freaking pass by torres last night! that was a sweet play.
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^ Are you sure that's how the cap system works?
I thought it was differently then that.
If a player misses less then 10 games or 24 days and isn't put on the long term injury reserve the money they make counts against the cap at the end of the year. It's only long term injuries that are deducted like Salo. I'm pretty sure Burrows was never on LTI so his salary when he was injured won't come off.
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From what I've heard on the radio etc if Salo is out long enough when he returns there will be no cap issues

And "long enough" seems to be mid-late January
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it's going to be interesting how the lines get juggled upon raymond's return. with samuelsson and torres scoring again, it'll be a tough call who gets bumped down now.

btw, great freaking pass by torres last night! that was a sweet play.
Most people's guess is Tamby and Raymond will wing Kesler on the second line.
Samulson and Torres will wing Maholtra on the third.
Hansen and Bulduc will wing Glass on the 4th line and Volpatti (sp?) will get sent back down to the minors.

Not too sure what will happen on the D though. Can't imagine both Rome and Alberts will ride the pine after they worked so hard this year in Salo's absence.
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If a player misses less then 10 games or 24 days and isn't put on the long term injury reserve the money they make counts against the cap at the end of the year. It's only long term injuries that are deducted like Salo. I'm pretty sure Burrows was never on LTI so his salary when he was injured won't come off.
Burrows was out for a long time... he was on injured reserve.
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(puck cycling line) Sedin Sedin Burrows
(speed line) Raymond Kesler Tambellini
(two-way line) Samuelsson Malholtra Torres
(defensive grinding line) Hansen Glass Bulduc

Good god, I would say those are 4 pretty good lines we have huh? All with different playing style for the opposition's checking line to defend.

Looking good... looking very good
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Burrows was out for a long time... he was on injured reserve.
You're right, it was close though. He missed 10 games and 25 days.
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You're right, it was close though. He missed 10 games and 25 days.
Burrows could have been back 2 games earlier but sat them out to make the 10 games missed. IIRC.
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Jeff Tambellini was in the 2003 draft afterall... i remember fans were crying to pick him over kesler.

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Burrows could have been back 2 games earlier but sat them out to make the 10 games missed. IIRC.
exactly what i remember. they sat him out long enough to save cap room.

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(speed line) Raymond Kesler Tambellini
(two-way line) Samuelsson Malholtra Torres
(defensive grinding line) Hansen Glass Bulduc

Good god, I would say those are 4 pretty good lines we have huh? All with different playing style for the opposition's checking line to defend.
we dont really follow the traditional (1st, second, 2way, grind) format. Kesler and Rayray are very good defensively so line 2 often plays that 2 way role. And our 4th line isnt your standard all grit no skill line either.

We sort of have 1st, 2a, 2b, two-way
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Datsyuk is out which means kesler will have a bigger chance of winning the selke

dan cleary is also out with broken ankle for a month

this will hopefully give canucks oppurtunity to take first in the west

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Most people's guess is Tamby and Raymond will wing Kesler on the second line.
Samulson and Torres will wing Maholtra on the third.
Hansen and Bulduc will wing Glass on the 4th line and Volpatti (sp?) will get sent back down to the minors.

Not too sure what will happen on the D though. Can't imagine both Rome and Alberts will ride the pine after they worked so hard this year in Salo's absence.
Yup, its gotta be Hansen that goes down. He's been decent on the 2nd line, but nothing offensively that MayRay can't provide really, and he's the only one who's versatile enough to still be effective on the 4th line.

Tambi producing on the 2nd line has REALLY helped the Nucks depth.
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Yup, its gotta be Hansen that goes down. He's been decent on the 2nd line, but nothing offensively that MayRay can't provide really, and he's the only one who's versatile enough to still be effective on the 4th line.

Tambi producing on the 2nd line has REALLY helped the Nucks depth.
Hansen and Torres could easily share that 3rd line winger role..both are great...
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don't you feel that with our depth, the 3 lines just end up becoming numbers?

as in you're as confident watching line X play just as much as line Y? like that's how good our depth is?
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