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Blah_Teggie 07-01-2010 07:10 PM

Pittsburgh fans and their mgmt will be so pissed if that 3rd round pick they traded to Philly for the rights to Hamhuis actually turns into something good! Anybody else notice the Canucks love making trades with Florida? Bure, Luongo and now Ballard?

choda 07-01-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gh0stRider (Post 7013033)
:lol

I'm glad SOMEONE got the joke! :P

shawn79 07-01-2010 07:45 PM

hope to see bieksa gone and fetch us something good :D

This should be the d-core on opening night
Ballard (4.2) - Ehrhoff (3.1)
Hamhuis (4.5) - Edler (3.25)
O'Brien/Mitchell (1.75) - Salo (3.5)
Rome (0.7)



vs colby armstrong
vs corey perry

Mike Oxbig 07-01-2010 07:53 PM

Bieksa is a warrior no question about that


AzNightmare 07-01-2010 08:20 PM

what the hell??!

This morning, page 32.
9:20pm ... page 48 ?!

I have a lot of catching up to do now...

murd0c 07-01-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 7013143)
what the hell??!

This morning, page 32.
9:20pm ... page 48 ?!

I have a lot of catching up to do now...

ya a couple things happened today lol, and what a great day it was LOL

spoon.ek9 07-01-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 7013168)
ya a couple things happened today lol, and what a great day it was LOL

most def! IN GILLIS WE TRUST. :thumbsup:

fobulaus 07-01-2010 08:55 PM

According to nhlnumbers.com, we have 2.6 million to sign at least 3 more forwards AND Mason Raymond... I guess a trade is inevitable now...

shawn79 07-01-2010 09:09 PM

malhotra is overpaid no matter what u guys say

raygunpk 07-01-2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shawn79 (Post 7013192)
malhotra is overpaid no matter what u guys say

problem?
:troll:

SoulCrusher 07-01-2010 09:12 PM

^ Im more bothered about the NTC that Malhotra got, more so than the $$$

murd0c 07-01-2010 09:15 PM

its only 2 years guys nothing bad at all

raygunpk 07-01-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 7013203)
its only 2 years guys nothing bad at all

its actually 3

but i don't see how the ntc will be much of a problem

sj offered 2.2m btw

murd0c 07-01-2010 09:22 PM

yep 3 but that aint bad at all, for the price and the size is worth it. Not only that its a money maker cause a great number of the east indian fans will prob buy his jersey to support him.

d1 07-01-2010 09:22 PM

The thing with a NTC is generally a player would take less money for that security. In this case, Malhotra was overpaid and also received a NTC..

raygunpk 07-01-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by d1 (Post 7013219)
The thing with a NTC is generally a player would take less money for that security. In this case, Malhotra was overpaid and also received a NTC..

you're basing his value on what?

SumAznGuy 07-01-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 7013203)
its only 2 years guys nothing bad at all

You mean a 3 year contract.
Unless you are talking about some other contract.

SumAznGuy 07-01-2010 09:29 PM

According to Sportnet, Olli had no offers and ended up jumping on the first offer that he was given.

orange7 07-01-2010 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1 (Post 7013219)
The thing with a NTC is generally a player would take less money for that security. In this case, Malhotra was overpaid and also received a NTC..

+1

i think he should be getting paid 1.5-1.8 mill with a NTC.

somewhere around there is good for his size on the 3rd/4th line.

SumAznGuy 07-01-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by raygunpk (Post 7013226)
you're basing his value on what?

Let's see. A former 7th pick overall, last year's 40 pts was a career high. Yes he was #2 in faceoff percentage last year, but what was his faceoff numbers in the years before that?
He is getting $2.5M per year while the Nuck's offerened Raymond $750K for his qualifying offer and Burrow's is only getting $2M a year as a 30 goal man.

MM was making $700K last year.

I guess this is why I was curious to see what happened in the negotiations that got him so much $$$ and a NTC. Not much of a hometown discount if you ask me.

Oh yeah, bye bye Bieska and Mitchel

orange7 07-01-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 7013230)
According to Sportnet, Olli had no offers and ended up jumping on the first offer that he was given.


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I'm still laughing at this.

I wonder what iggy, kipper, and the others reactions were when they heard the news.

First day of practice for them would be awkward to see oilli back. Not to mention it would be super awkward between sutter and oilli for the next 2 seasons.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

orange7 07-01-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 7013236)
Let's see. A former 7th pick overall, last year's 40 pts was a career high. Yes he was #2 in faceoff percentage last year, but what was his faceoff numbers in the years before that?
He is getting $2.5M per year while the Nuck's offerened Raymond $750K for his qualifying offer and Burrow's is only getting $2M a year as a 30 goal man.

MM was making $700K last year.

I guess this is why I was curious to see what happened in the negotiations that got him so much $$$ and a NTC. Not much of a hometown discount if you ask me.

Oh yeah, bye bye Bieska and Mitchel

well to be fair, it he becomes another samuelson, then we got ourselves a good deal. However, I don't see that happening since there won't be an olympic next year and he's not from sweden.

spoon.ek9 07-01-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fobulaus (Post 7013174)
According to nhlnumbers.com, we have 2.6 million to sign at least 3 more forwards AND Mason Raymond... I guess a trade is inevitable now...


it would make sense to trade biekshit then to free up cap space for other contracts. especially raymond since we traded away grabner, he must be signed!

raygunpk 07-01-2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 7013236)
Let's see. A former 7th pick overall, last year's 40 pts was a career high. Yes he was #2 in faceoff percentage last year, but what was his faceoff numbers in the years before that?
He is getting $2.5M per year while the Nuck's offerened Raymond $750K for his qualifying offer and Burrow's is only getting $2M a year as a 30 goal man.

MM was making $700K last year.

I guess this is why I was curious to see what happened in the negotiations that got him so much $$$ and a NTC. Not much of a hometown discount if you ask me.

Oh yeah, bye bye Bieska and Mitchel

08/09 - 58.0% -4th league best (58.1% in playoffs)
07/08 - 59.0% -2nd league best
06/07 - 55.1% -12th league best
05/06 - 56.4% -6th league best

if you want to compare to what the canucks top FO men were those seasons:

08/09 - kyle wellwood @ 57.5
07/08 - ryan kesler @ 53.0
06/07 - henrik sedin @ 52.5
05/06 - henrik sedin @ 50.7

40 points for a 3rd liner is all you ask. do you expect him to get 50+ with limited offensive minutes? he had more points last year than wellwood, johnson, bernier, hansen...any of our bottom 6 guys. he got more points than colby armstrong who got 500k more.
one point every two games means we're getting great secondary scoring. plus that's not the reason he was brought in.

burrows@2m is a great contract, one of the best in the league. but you can't expect everyone to take a huge discount like that and we're not always going to hit home runs. and if you think raymond is getting 750k i'm not sure you understand what a qualifying offer means.

sharks offered 2.2m, we want a player like this in an open bidding market, we're going to have to pay for it. the NTC is also limited, probably along the lines of "i do not want to be traded to this list of 5 teams" or whatever. hardly a clause where he has the upper hand. people shouldn't use heatley's nightmare talks as an example for everything.

SumAznGuy 07-01-2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 7013241)
well to be fair, it he becomes another samuelson, then we got ourselves a good deal. However, I don't see that happening since there won't be an olympic next year and he's not from sweden.

Interesting. Looking at the last few years, MM has a 58% faceoff percentage or higher while he played for CBJ. And he was #2 in this year's playoffs. But I can't find his regular season faceoff % for this year.

But who am to judge Gillis' descisions.

Oh yeah, he only had 33 pts this year, a career high of 14 goals.


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