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No kidding. Picking up an undamaged stick shouldn't result in a penalty.
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No kidding. Picking up an undamaged stick shouldn't result in a penalty.
Well what if player A breaks his stick and player B drops his but as he goes to pick it up, player A grabs it first? That wouldn't make much sense would it. Posted via RS Mobile
I think that in this scenario, each player received the others' stick, so the penalty was lost in the confusion.
Not entirely. It was Koivu who picked up Ryan's stick first and Ryan was like "WTF?" and no call. About 10-20 seconds later, he just picked up Koivu's stick.
In those 10-20 seconds, a penalty could have been easily called.
Well what if player A breaks his stick and player B drops his but as he goes to pick it up, player A grabs it first? That wouldn't make much sense would it. Posted via RS Mobile
Ok I didn't think it through before posting...
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Not entirely. It was Koivu who picked up Ryan's stick first and Ryan was like "WTF?" and no call. About 10-20 seconds later, he just picked up Koivu's stick.
In those 10-20 seconds, a penalty could have been easily called.
Koivu just stole Ryan's stick from his hands as he was skating by.
(I still wonder how did Koivu's one hand overpower Ryan's two hand grip)
Penalty probably should have been called there...
If Ryan didn't let go of his stick so easily, easily a holding call.
Perhaps not really about picking up opponent's sticks, but using them in anyway...
even if it's stripped from their hands.
I also believe moving the stick that's been dropped on the ice is a penalty on it's own.
(Someone doublecheck with me on that one). You can pick it up and pass it to your
teammate, but not slide it on along the ice. But there might even be a funny rule about
holding two sticks simutaneously, so I'm not sure.
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Moving a stick that's been dropped isn't necessarily a penalty, but moving a stick to interfere with the opposing player is. I've seen guys move sticks towards the boards the free up room. I'm not sure if it's their own teams stick or the opponents stick.
We need Bob Mackenzie and his rule book for this lol
10.3 Broken Stick – Player - A broken stick is one which, in the opinion of the Referee, is unfit for normal play.
A player without a stick may participate in the game. A player whose stick is broken may participate in the game provided he drops the broken stick. A minor penalty shall be imposed for an infraction of this rule.
A player who has lost or broken his stick may only receive a stick at his own players’ bench or be handed one from a teammate on the ice. A player will be penalized if he throws, tosses, slides or shoots a stick to teammate on the ice. A player may not participate in the play using a goalkeeper’s stick. A minor penalty shall be imposed for an infraction of this rule.
A player tendered a stick thrown on the ice from the players’ or penalty bench will not receive a penalty. However, the person responsible for throwing the stick will receive a bench minorpenalty.
As well as:
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53.1 Throwing Equipment – A player shall not throw a stick or any other object in any zone. A player who has lost or broken his stick may only receive a stick at his own players’ bench or be handed one from a teammate on the ice (see 10.3).
53.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty shall be imposed on any player on the ice who throws his stick or any part thereof or any other object in the direction of the puck or an opponent in any zone, except when such act has been penalized by the assessment of a penalty shot or the awarding of a goal.
When a defending player shoots or throws a stick or any other object at the puck or the puck carrier in the defending zone but does not interfere in any manner with the puck or puck carrier, a minor penalty shall be assessed.
When the player discards the broken portion of a stick or some other object by tossing it or shooting it to the side of the ice (and not over the boards) in such a way as will not interfere with play or opposing player, no penalty will be imposed for so doing. When moving a stick that is not broken, no penalty shall be assessed as long as it does not interfere with the play and the player who lost said stick is not attempting to retrieve it, otherwise an interference penalty must be assessed.
A minor penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct plus a game misconduct penalty shall be imposed on a player who throws his stick or any part thereof or any other object or piece of equipment outside the playing area in protest of an official’s decision.
Can't find anything about taking/using an opponent's stick though...
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I was reading up on Roger Neilson - some funny loopholes he found in the old rules, and he definitely took advantage of them before they changed the rules on him.
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Neilson was well known for closely reading the rule book looking for loopholes. During one particular game in the OHL his team was up one goal, but was down two men in a five on three situation for the last minute of the game. Realizing that more penalties could not be served under the existing rules, Neilson put too many men on the ice every ten seconds. The referees stopped the play and a faceoff was held relieving pressure on the defence. After this display, the rule was changed so that a call for intentional too many men on the ice in a 5-on-3 situation in the last two minutes of regulation or in overtime resulted in a penalty shot.
Neilson also discovered that if he put a defenceman in net instead of a goalie during a penalty shot, the defenceman could rush the attacker and cut down the latter's angle of shot, greatly reducing the chances of a goal. Today the rule states that a team must use a goalie in net for a penalty shot.
One game during a time-out, Neilson told his goaltender, “...when we pull you, just leave your goal stick lying in the crease.” When the other team gained possession, they sent the puck the length of the ice toward the open net, only to deflect wide when it hit the goal stick lying in the crease. The rule was changed the next season so that a goal would be awarded in such a situation.
I was reading up on Roger Neilson - some funny loopholes he found in the old rules, and he definitely took advantage of them before they changed the rules on him.
Aaron Rome got a minor for playing with an illegal stick in the third after he'd dropped his. Alas, the one he picked up off the ice belonged to a Blue Jackets player. And the stick was broken, too.
On the subject of broken sticks, I recall watching a game recently where the goalie's stick was snapped in half and the goalie continued to use the lower half of his stick. I had wondered why the goalie wasn't penalized as he had played with it for a number of minutes in plain view of the officials but I guess it's not against the rules. If broken sticks are a safety hazard then I would think a goalie's use of one would be even more so with players converging and crashing the net.
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