The Official 2010/2011 Canucks Thread

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Horn goes off for Daniel Sedin

[RiceIntegraRS]

I remember when Jody Shelly sucker punched Andrew Alberts and got 2 games for it while Milan Lucic (Boston Bruin) did something really similiar and got nothing. If Thornton and Sedin thinks maybe the Bruins are getting some type of special treatment, it has me convinced aswell.

[quasi]

Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS

I remember when Jody Shelly sucker punched Andrew Alberts and got 2 games for it while Milan Lucic (Boston Bruin) did something really similiar and got nothing. If Thornton and Sedin thinks maybe the Bruins are getting some type of special treatment, it has me convinced aswell.

I think it's more to do with the player then the team. Jody Shelly is a goon so of course they have no problem suspending him. If it was Adam Mcquaid who did the same hit that game he would have been suspended without question. The NHL generally doesn't suspend its stars unless it's for repeat offeses, ie: Ovechkin and wreckless hits.

It's BS and a double standard but it's always been there.

[Hondaracer]

Short term a first round pick for Schneider does nothing for us, this and future drafts looks pretty weak unless we get a top 5 overall for him

Canucks are best suited to try and get him on board for as long as possible, having a backup that can play 20 games and win 3/4 of them is alot more valuable than a first rounder that will take many years to develop
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[TouringTeg]

lol @ Kess. Man that game was epic. So much fun to watch!!

Agree Cory is getting too good. At least when we trade him we should get some great players in return.

[spoon.ek9]

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

I don't think it's really cap issues. Schneider's good enough to be a starter for many other teams.
He's eventually gonna want to break out and not sit as Lou's backup forever.

my post previous to the one you quoted:

Originally Posted by spoon.ek9

i think you're absolutely correct. BUT! it's in cory's best interest to become a #1 goalie for another team and i wish him all the best in his future. he's simply too good to be our backup forever. we are being spoiled by two excellent goalies at the moment. and yes, i also believe that cory has pushed luongo to be better (as 89blkcivic pointed out).

i very much think the salary cap is part of the issue unless cory decides he's okay with playing the back up role and at a discount for us. this is of course, after the 2011-2012 season where cory will become a UFA. we're basically circumventing the cap right now with LTIR (or "luck" as ppl have put it ). we will be seeing a lot of changes next year on our D. there's no way in hell we can keep bieksa + salo + ehrhoff + ballard + hamhuis + edler on the 2011-2012 roster all year long. also, keep in mind of those 6, only edler, ballard and hamhuis are still on contract. salo, ehrhoff and bieksa are all due to be UFA's after this season. then you factor in forwards. this really reminds me of the situation chicago had after last season.

our projected cap space is $12.8 mil next year with only 14 players (out of the current 25) signed. also, currently the sum salary of all our defenseman is $25.65 mil

[stuff99]

SAN JOSE, Calif. — During the NHL lockout, a concerted effort was made to create a new, better game.

This game would be faster and more wide open than the hockey that had been played for the previous decade because, well, it had to be. But, in opening up the game, the league’s stakeholders were aware they were creating potential problems.

These areas were discussed at both the general manager’s level and the competition committee level and a solution was reached. If the game was faster, and therefore more dangerous, the league would have to be vigilant in policing certain kind of hits with supplementary discipline.

Everyone agreed on this. Everyone left the matter with the league and, at first, the reaction wasn’t as strong as some might have hoped. Then, early last season, Mike Richards served up the perfect test case for the NHL when he obliterated the Panthers’ David Booth with a blindside hit.

The circumstances were almost ideal. Richards was a repeat offender. He received a major and a game misconduct on the play. Booth would miss most of the season with a concussion. And with a chance, once and for all to establish a clear precedent, this is what the NHL did.

Nothing. No suspension. No clear message. Nothing. And ever since, they’ve been trying to contain a problem that is now threatening to consume the game.

This is the story everyone in the league is talking about. This has taken over the hockey narrative. Zdeno Chara’s hit on Max Pacioretty has sparked yet another firestorm around the issue of head shots, but this time it is more heated, more intense.

It’s also become a huge national story. Pacioretty speaks from his hospital bed. Air Canada fires off a letter to the NHL threatening to pull its sponsorship. Gary Bettman, who’s had an interesting week, fires right back. There’s a police investigation. There’s a reaction on Parliament Hill. It’s in the newpapers. On the airwaves.

And this story isn’t being driven by the media. It’s everywhere in the game.

“The players are concerned,” San Jose’s Ryan Clowe said before Thursday night’s game with the Vancouver Canucks.

“I’m concerned about my teammates’ health, the health of the players around the league and I’m concerned about my own health. I don’t want to see players injured like that, and I don’t want to hurt someone like that, either.

“I think the guys care. Guys aren’t voicing a strong opinion because they want to be careful what they say. But talking to guys around the league, I know they’re concerned. In some positions you’re so vulnerable you don’t want someone hitting you like that.”

But still it continues.

Clowe, in fact, should be an authoritative voice on this subject. He plays tough. He plays with an edge. He’s also disturbed by what he sees, even as he recognizes the inherent conflict within the game he loves.

“It’s got to be on the players,” he said. “But it’s hard. If you’re not playing physically, you’re getting heat from your coaches and you’ll lose your job.”

So what’s to be done?

Well, something would be a start.

If you go back to the Richards hit and suspend the Flyers’ forward for eight games, what follows? Does Matt Cooke blindside Marc Savard knowing the precedent has been established? Does David Steckel alter his course to avoid Sidney Crosby? Does Chara ease up on Pacioretty as they near the stanchion? Does Pavel Kubina raise his elbow and deliver a blow to the head of David Bolland one night later?

More to the point, does a lengthy suspension to Richards change the way players think and react? That’s what has to happen here. There has to be a fundamental change and, as Clowe said: “It’s got to be on the players.”

But they need help getting there.

This subject will come up again next week when those same general managers meet in Florida and they have a chance to go back and right a wrong. This time they have to come out with a clear purpose. This time they have to enforce sanctions to their full extent.

This time they have to change the way the game is played. A lot is riding on their response.

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[jerche]

The thing that worries me is that our prospects arent going to get the chance they deserves...we have a stacked team, how are we going to incorporate all the young prospects in our team in the coming years?
hodson, schroeder, lack, tanev, connaugton just to name a few are rising stars imo

we already traded grabner and oberg away already

i want to keep schieds but with luongo on our roster, it's slim

just my 2 cents

[Hondaracer]

You entice players to stick around by winning and running a quality franchise that has a shot year in year out, ie Detroit
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Globe On Hockey
Bettman not afraid to play rough

Bettman holds new contract and all the cards
DAVID SHOALTS
From Friday's Globe and Mail
Published Friday, Mar. 11, 2011 12:34AM EST
Last updated Friday, Mar. 11, 2011 12:06PM EST

Even as the NHL comes under attack, commissioner Gary Bettman won’t have to worry about lacking support from the board of governors. That is because he quietly negotiated a five-year contract extension last November.

Bettman’s current contract pays him $7.2-million (all currency U.S.) per year and was to end this summer, although the governors may have earlier picked up an option that extended it to 2012. One source said the contract extension was unanimously approved by the nine-member executive committee.

Bettman fights back against critics What will surely fire up the conspiracy theorists, who have been venting loudly on all forms of media following Zdeno Chara’s hit on Max Pacioretty of the Montreal Canadiens, is the identity of the driving force behind Bettman’s new contract. It is Jeremy Jacobs, the NHL’s chairman of the board of governors who just happens to own the Boston Bruins, the team that employs Chara. However, as chairman, one of Jacobs’s duties is to keep the commissioner and the other key executives of the NHL under contract.

Bettman confirmed via e-mail he received an extension. “Old news. I believe my contract has been extended four times, each time with the approval of the board of governors,” he said.

One governor said he believes Bettman also reached an understanding with the executive committee that deputy commissioner Bill Daly and chief operating officer John Collins will also be retained beyond this season. Daly, who earned $1.9-million last season, would only say he does not have a contract.

Jacobs and Bettman are thought to have a close relationship and at least one owner thinks the contract extension smacks of cronyism but some of his fellow governors differ. One said Jacobs made the move with an eye toward the end of the collective agreement in September, 2012.

The governor, who did not wish to be identified because Bettman does not allow governors to speak publicly about the inner workings of the NHL, said the board wants to head into negotiations with the NHL Players’ Association with solidarity on the management front. It does not want any perception Bettman could be a lame-duck commissioner if he does not have a new contract.

However, the criticisms of the NHL by team owners in recent weeks are unusual. The first was Pittsburgh Penguins co-owner Mario Lemieux, who felt suspensions handed to two New York Islanders players for attacks on Penguins players were too lenient.

On Thursday, Habs owner Geoff Molson released a public letter to Canadiens fans in which the team owner knocked the NHL for refusing to suspend Chara for the hit that left Pacioretty, a Canadiens forward, with a fractured vertebra and a concussion. Molson called on Bettman to make player safety a priority at the annual NHL general managers’ meetings in Florida next week and volunteered to be a leader in the effort.

“I am asking for the support of the 29 other NHL owners, to address urgently this safety issue,” Molson said. “And I am willing to play a leadership role in co-ordinating this group effort.”

There was another letter Thursday that drew headlines and the ire of Bettman, that one coming from an Air Canada executive. The airline threatened to withdraw its sponsorship from the league if steps were not taken to reduce violent hits to the head.

Since Air Canada also is the official carrier for all six Canadian NHL teams and five based in the United States, which brings in more than $20-million a year for the airline, Bettman issued a counter-threat.

“Air Canada is a great brand as is the National Hockey League and if they decide that they need to do other things with their sponsorship dollars, that’s their prerogative,” Bettman said. “It is the prerogative of our clubs that fly on Air Canada to make other arrangements if they don’t think Air Canada is giving them the appropriate level of service.”

Bettman staunchly backed the league’s decision to impose no additional punishment on Boston’s captain, who was assessed a five-minute penalty for interference and a game misconduct while Pacioretty lay motionless, face down on the ice for more than five minutes before being immobilized on a spinal board and taken by ambulance to hospital.

“It was a horrific injury; we’re sorry it happened in our fast-paced, physical game,” Bettman said on Capitol Hill. But he said the decision not to further sanction Chara for the hit during the Canadiens-Bruins game in Montreal on Tuesday was widely praised by the other teams.

With a report from Paul Koring in Washington, D.C.

[highfive]

More Kesler cameos.

http://video.canucks.nhl.com/videoce...id=0&id=102362

[spoon.ek9]

hahahaha fucking hilarious

[Greenstoner]

im call him Kes from now on lawl

[Gumby]

Haha he keeps on showing up in the background without his shirt on...

[fliptuner]

Originally Posted by Greenstoner

im call him Kes from now on lawl

Shit, ch28 deleted his pic of goal celeb Kes with the troll face...

Originally Posted by AzNightmare

[spoon.ek9]

^ that's fuck yea face

[fliptuner]

Yeah I know. ch28 made one with the troll face but deleted it.

[AzNightmare]

Kesler should Troll in one of AV's interviews...

[TheKingdom2000]

Thought this was a good read;
OC News Paper talking about the Canucks fans on the road in Cali.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/d...vancouver.html

I loved this comment, "...I had one guy rudely comment on my jersey, but im a 5 foot tall girl, im not going to punch some 200lb Canadian guy in the face lol"

[Tegra_Devil]

Originally Posted by 89blkcivic

Oh Tegrahhhhhhhhh............. where are you???????????

right here...where are u?

[fliptuner]

Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil

right here...where are u?

WAY UP HERE!!!!!

[shawn79]

flames are 16-2-2 in last 20 games

[Tegra_Devil]

Originally Posted by fliptuner

WAY UP HERE!!!!!

good, its more fun to watch u fall from a higher location

Originally Posted by shawn79

flames are 16-2-2 in last 20 games

is that what it is? i havent been keepin track...

always a proud flames fan

[fliptuner]

LOL

Should be a good game tomorrow.

[shawn79]