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LUUUUUUUU 07-19-2010 11:09 AM

Kovy's gotta learn vinny's fistpump

d1 07-19-2010 01:09 PM

Any official numbers yet?

17 years at $150 million is stupid.
17 years at $100 million is pretty decent cap wise, but that's a lot of years committed.

LUUUUUUUU 07-19-2010 01:16 PM

i think it's 17 years for $102 million?

MR_BIGGS 07-19-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUUUUUUUU (Post 7034533)
i think it's 17 years for $102 million?

Kovalchuk $102m over 17 years. $10m per year for the first 8 years. $7.5 for the next 2.

quasi 07-19-2010 01:48 PM

Retarded amount of money I guess good if you can get it. If the Canucks ever signed a player for that kind of money not named Crosby or Ovechkin I'd be choked.

Ronin 07-19-2010 02:27 PM

So if he gets $10m for the first 8 and then $7.5m for the next 2, that means he's making $700,000 for the next 7 years...

This is a retarded deal...

LUUUUUUUU 07-19-2010 02:43 PM

well that's the point... all these long ass contracts are just to lower the cap hit isn't it?
he most likely won't be playing the last 7 years... like luongo's contract

still overpaid i think

raygunpk 07-19-2010 02:44 PM

Hahah these long term deals are getting more and more ridiculous. CBA expires 2012, expect to see some of the same long ass deals next summer...Parise in particular.

LUUUUUUUU 07-19-2010 02:44 PM

NHLSourcesSay

Sharks still in hunt for D-man, I'm told Kaberle and Bieksa are there 2 top targets. 6 minutes ago via web

SumAznGuy 07-19-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 7034621)
So if he gets $10m for the first 8 and then $7.5m for the next 2, that means he's making $700,000 for the next 7 years...

This is a retarded deal...

I wouldn't call it a retarded deal. So he get's $95M for the next 10 years. By the time that ends, he will be 37. If he chooses to retire at the age of 38, then the contract ends and there is no more cap hit on the Devils. If he continues to play, he is making $1M per year.

$10M X 8
$7.5M X 2
$1M x 7 years.

Cap hit is only $6M per year.

clowe 07-19-2010 02:52 PM

Cap Geek's numbers for Kovalchuk:

2010-2011 $6,000,000
2011-2012 $6,000,000
2012-2013 $11,500,000
2013-2014 $11,500,000
2014-2015 $11,500,000
2015-2016 $11,500,000
2016-2017 $11,500,000
2017-2018 $10,500,000
2018-2019 $8,500,000
2019-2020 $6,500,000
2020-2021 $3,500,000
2021-2022 $750,000
2022-2023 $550,000
2023-2024 $550,000
2024-2025 $550,000
2025-2026 $550,000
2026-2027 $550,000

It's basically a 10-11 yr contract since he's likely to retire in 2020/2021.

SumAznGuy 07-19-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowe (Post 7034640)
Cap Geek's numbers for Kovalchuk:

2010-2011 $6,000,000
2011-2012 $6,000,000
2012-2013 $11,500,000
2013-2014 $11,500,000
2014-2015 $11,500,000
2015-2016 $11,500,000
2016-2017 $11,500,000
2017-2018 $10,500,000
2018-2019 $8,500,000
2019-2020 $6,500,000
2020-2021 $3,500,000
2021-2022 $750,000
2022-2023 $550,000
2023-2024 $550,000
2024-2025 $550,000
2025-2026 $550,000
2026-2027 $550,000

At the end of the 2020-21 season, he will be 38. If he chooses to retire by then, there is no cap hit to the Devils.
While he plays, the cap hit is a lowly $6M.

This deal is only retarded if Kovy fails to perform. If he continues at the point a game pace, then it is worth it. With this deal, there is still enough $$$ left in the estimated cap space to resign Parise to a similar long term deal.

If Kovy decides to stay and play past 2020-21, then it will be bad as his cap his is still $6M assuming he can't maintain the pt per game pace at that age.

Wongtouski 07-19-2010 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUUUUUUUU (Post 7034632)
NHLSourcesSay

Sharks still in hunt for D-man, I'm told Kaberle and Bieksa are there 2 top targets. 6 minutes ago via web

yay please take bieskshit out of our hands

Gilgamesh 07-19-2010 03:59 PM

Even if kovy gets a point per game, that still doesn't justify his salary. For 6-10mil, I'd would rather choose a two way player who scores a point per game.

BlackZRoadster 07-19-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1 (Post 7034527)
Any official numbers yet?

17 years at $150 million is stupid.
17 years at $100 million is pretty decent cap wise, but that's a lot of years committed.

is it that stupid? :Orly:

:troll:

Tim Budong 07-19-2010 04:48 PM

Darren Dreger reports the contract for kovy is awaiting approval

spoon.ek9 07-19-2010 04:51 PM

cmon gillis, get bieksa out of here :D

shawn79 07-19-2010 04:56 PM

yeah trade bieksa and raymond for ryan clowe (3.6mill) :troll:

JKam 07-19-2010 05:05 PM

bieksa for patrick white? :troll:

orange7 07-19-2010 05:10 PM

but why devils????? their playing style doesn't match kovys

trip 07-19-2010 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JKam (Post 7034802)
patrick white? :troll:

please no one ever mention that name ever again

E-40six 07-19-2010 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trip (Post 7034868)
please no one ever mention that name ever again

word, but then again that name got us Erroff:thumbsup:

orange7 07-19-2010 06:42 PM

nvm

trancehead 07-19-2010 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 7034932)
man.. what an upgrade on our D, while not much improvement was made to our offence. The sedins wil probably get 80-90 pts each next year. This means our offence production will decrease, and we will watch boring hockey all over again.

First of all, we were the second highest offensive team in the league last season only next to eventual cup winners Chicago. You wont be seeing the boring defense first hockey as you did in 2006 or whatever when our only capable line was with the Sedins.

Second of all, if you havn't noticed in the Chicago series, once again our fatal flaw was our Defense--which MG has so kindly revitalized. Hamhuis was even invited to Team Canada's camp last summer. This may be a sign that we finally have that coveted #1 dman. Hopefully this will contribute to even more offense.

If our prospects in Hodgson and Schroeder can step it up this year, we will have the kind of depth the dreaded salary cap allows: Chicago last season (kane and toews on ELC), Anahiem in 2007 (perry, getzlaf, penner line).
Boom and we have a cup contender:)

raygunpk 07-19-2010 07:15 PM

^Washington was first actually, Chicago was 3rd.

But yeah, offense isn't really an issue. Production from the Sedins might decrease off the start as Burrows is likely out a month or two. But we have so many options with line combos it's awesome. Sammy steps up to first line and Schroeder/Hodgson goes 2nd line?
Can't wait for camp. I hate baseball.


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