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AzNightmare 07-23-2010 04:56 PM

Goalie in floorball


b0unce. [?] 07-23-2010 06:03 PM

^ thats gonna destroy your hands after playing a few games trying to catch the ball

JesseBlue 07-24-2010 03:31 PM

c'mon season...start already...

b0unce. [?] 07-25-2010 04:41 PM

I'm getting withdrawals... Hockey season please start!

JKam 07-25-2010 06:05 PM

just a few more months! Raymond's hearing is in 2 days too so we'll have something to talk about then.

Not really racist! 07-25-2010 06:17 PM

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What's Raymond worth? More than you think

By GORDON MCINTYRE SUN, JUL 25 2010 COMMENTS(3) THE WHITE TOWEL

Filed under: raymond, arbitration

Going by radio and online polls, a lot of you don't think Mason Raymond is worth upwards of $3 million a season, but that's the going rate for a 25-goal scorer, let alone one who's up-and-coming.

Raymond's agent, J.P. Barry, will compare the speedy winger when Raymond's arbitration hearing with the Canucks gets underway Monday to players making between $3.5 million to slightly north of $4 million.

The Canucks will likely counter as comparibles players earning slightly below $2 million (forget their qualifying offer of $700,000, that's just a formality the Canucks went through _ Raymond made a base of $760,000 last season and $833,333 with bonuses). Lots of numbers will be trucked out, statistics will be stretched like Spandex on Dustin Byfuglien in an effort to fit scenarios they were never meant to fit.
Let's look at a couple of categories, starting with 25-goal scorers.

Raymond tied with Ryan Kesler and 10 others for 47th in the NHL with 25 goals last season. Kesler makes a bigger contribution and has been rewarded with a $5-million-a-year deal that kicks in this season. Taken as a group the 25-goal club, sans Raymond, average $3.84 million when you include Jonathan Toews' $6.5 million for this season and Kesler's extension; the best the Canucks might hope for in this type of comparison is Brooks Laich in Washington who scored 21, 23 and 25 goals the past three seasons and earns $2.4 million.

And Barry recently got a deal for another client of his, Minnesota's 23-goal scorer Guillaume Latendresse, for $5 million over two years (but the agent says Raymond had a better overall year when categories like penalty killing are included).The Canucks, for their part, could point out that Alex Burrows (28 and 35 goals the past two seasons) at $2 million per and Mikael Samuelsson (30 goals in his Canucks debut) at $2.5 million are more valuable players and that Raymond should be priced somewhere in their ballpark.

Raymond tied Samuelsson with four game-winning goals, behind Daniel Sedin (8), Henrik and Kesler (5 each), but then Jannik Hansen had three himself, for what that's worth. Raymond was third in shots on goal on the Canucks, behind Daniel and Samuelsson, but only ninth in scoring percentage (11.5%) among fulltime players. And he was fifth in ice time and shifts per game, behind, yes, the Sedins, Burrows and Kesler.

He's streaky and infuriates when he keeps going back to the chip-it-in-and-race-to-the-corner move instead of taking the puck to the middle, and he sure shoots at the goalie a lot like he's trying to hit a bull's-eye on the 'tender's chest. But Raymond has also scored some beautiful goals, displaying patience and great puck control: His upside is huge.

We're guessing he gets $3-3.5 million, which the Canucks would then get to choose whether to make it a one- or two-year term _ and how to fit it in under the salaray cap, which they're already over. If you're Mike Gillis (or his lieutenant Laurence Gilman) how would you approach tomorrow's arbitration and, given the Canucks cap-space squeeze, where do you go from there?
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punkwax 07-25-2010 06:30 PM

Sure hope Raymond gets awarded 2.5 or less.
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68style 07-25-2010 08:13 PM

Hopefully it's not the same dipshit arbitrator that decided Clarke McArthur was worth more than $3 mill a season.

orange7 07-25-2010 08:42 PM

if he gets 3.5+.. I say we let him walk and let him know how it feels to play in a shitty team. Then maybe he will consider taking a pay cut to play in a competitive winning team like the canucks.

raygunpk 07-25-2010 08:55 PM

Since we're all so bored let's have a guessing game on what he gets.

I'm gunna go with 2.9M.

hi5-ive 07-25-2010 08:56 PM

2.3

Tegra_Devil 07-25-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 7043294)
if he gets 3.5+.. I say we let him walk and let him know how it feels to play in a shitty team. Then maybe he will consider taking a pay cut to play in a competitive winning team like the canucks.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

that seriously made me spit water out of my mouth


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Ch28 07-25-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 7043306)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

that seriously made me spit water out of my mouth


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LUUUUUUUU 07-25-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 7043309)

now this made me spit water out of my mouth HAHAHAHAHAH

winson604 07-25-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JKam (Post 7043099)
just a few more months! Raymond's hearing is in 2 days too so we'll have something to talk about then.

Add another 2 days on top of that to wait for the actual results of the hearing =\

orange7 07-25-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 7043306)
[SIZE="6"]AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

that seriously made me spit water out of my mouth

all of our other players are taking a paycut from their market values to play on this team.

Sedins, Kesler, burrows.. etc. etc. would fetch more if they had went into the open market. It doesn't make sense why Raymond gets to maximize his value while getting to play in the best team in the Western conference.

I'm sure there are other players out there who wouldn't mind having a small paycut just to play on a better team.

raygunpk 07-25-2010 09:07 PM

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illicitstylz 07-25-2010 09:10 PM

Just checked in Aaron Rome today at work, had all his golf gear on lol

LUUUUUUUU 07-25-2010 09:10 PM

^ i like the michael phelps one

raygunpk 07-25-2010 09:12 PM

there's plenty plenty more jokinen pshops but it'd take a while to post

quasi 07-25-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 7043306)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

that seriously made me spit water out of my mouth

LOL at the cellar dwellar. Enjoy missing the playoffs.......again and again and again. It's going to be like 97-03 all over, oh dark days are upon you flames fan. :rofl:

Ch28 07-25-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 7043347)
LOL at the cellar dwellar. Enjoy missing the playoffs.......again and again and again. It's going to be like 97-03 all over, oh dark days are upon you flames fan. :rofl:

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Tegra_Devil 07-25-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 7043347)
LOL at the cellar dwellar. Enjoy missing the playoffs.......again and again and again. It's going to be like 97-03 all over, oh dark days are upon you flames fan. :rofl:

HAHAHAHA

enjoying not getting the cup again...and again...and again :thumbsup:

dont worry, one day you might get a cup with your name on it....but im sure you will be in an old age home by then or dead....hope you and ottawa like being the only Canadian teams to not win a cup....decent roster, but have never been there....ALL TALK, you canucks fans are...take a lesson from senators fans and keep quiet until you win something other than a conference title hahaha :rofl::rofl::rofl:

quasi 07-25-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tegra_Devil (Post 7043366)
HAHAHAHA

enjoying not getting the cup again...and again...and again :thumbsup:

dont worry, one day you might get a cup with your name on it....but im sure you will be in an old age home by then or dead....hope you and ottawa like being the only Canadian teams to not win a cup....decent roster, but have never been there....ALL TALK, you canucks fans are...take a lesson from senators fans and keep quiet until you win something other than a conference title hahaha :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Sutter. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Tegra_Devil 07-25-2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 7043393)
Sutter. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

thats the best you got? common...i would expect more from canucks fans, since they are the shit talkers with nothing to back it up..;)

it would have been a better insult if you said "you're glue and Im rubber"

i swear most of you are 16


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