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Its not a fucking blind side hit if the guy is skating forward. he should have been looking forward, not behind him. a blind side hit is when you get hit from a spot you cant see the guy coming from, like behind you or at an angle from the side. right fucking infront of you, is not a blind spot! and it wasnt a headshot, it was elbow to shoulder or even upper arm to shoulder, but im pretty sure he didnt get hit in the head. and you dont get run over by a bus with a headshot and get back up, especially seabrook!
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look at this pic. seabrooks entire body is in a forward motion and torres hit him square in the front. he should not have been looking behind him.
if his shoulders or logo were facing the glass, absolutely it would be a blind side hit. but he was square and it is not.
Its not a fucking blind side hit if the guy is skating forward. he should have been looking forward, not behind him. a blind side hit is when you get hit from a spot you cant see the guy coming from, like behind you or at an angle from the side. right fucking infront of you, is not a blind spot! and it wasnt a headshot, it was elbow to shoulder or even upper arm to shoulder, but im pretty sure he didnt get hit in the head. and you dont get run over by a bus with a headshot and get back up, especially seabrook!
IMO Torres hit was a good hockey play. It shouldn't be put on him that Seabrook didn't brace himself and/or wasn't aware of an oncoming player.
Hawks are badly deflated. We just have to push through and end them.
It's amusing how when they squeeked into the playoffs they were saying all the pressure's on us and they just have to play their game, etc., etc. Then in Toews' postgame interview he starts going off about how we're overrated and whatnot.... and Kane's interview...man, the guy was all twitchy and almost in tears - like someone just died. Oh wait, that was their season.....
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Its not like Seabrook didn't expect to be clocked in his position. canucks pushing for the insurance with one more frame to go. Any smart hockey player CANNOT admire his play. Same thing with eberle. Altho i cannot condone the actions of torres, I think it was a clean hockey play.
sadly, someone said it right. The players nor officials know exactly how to police Rule48
Generally, repeat offender first game back from last suspension so 4 games or more.
But this league is a joke and Colin Campbell and Bettman is a bigger joke so it could be 0 games or 20.
yup, i agree. the league has no problem handing out suspensions to repeat offenders. it's also a joke because there is no consistency from player to player. if you're a star player, they will be more lenient.
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I need another look at that hit. During the game, I thought it was clean?
Wasn't Seabrook just looking down while playing the puck along the boards?
I kept getting pissed every time I saw Seabrook back on the ice.
I was thinking "Torres, Hit him again!!"
What was that 15 min dressing room rule the commentator kept talking about? I'm not familiar with anything like that?
it's a new concussion protocol that the GM's discussed and have begun to implement it. the issue here isn't whether the hit was clean or not. seabrook was hit while he wasn't looking (i know it's his own fault) but the league won't care. torres isn't a star player and is a prime candidate for them to "make an example of".
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The league is cracking down on headshots
Also you should know by now that the league has never made consistant suspensions
they aren't consistent when it comes to the stars of the league. torres isn't anyone super special, just came off suspension and therefore, is more susceptible to another suspension.
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They have been consistent with blindsides though.. I think he'll get a game or 2... But since this is his first game back after a 4 game suspension, maybe they'll throw the book at him?
this!
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i feel i need to say that i felt it was a clean hockey play and seabrook put himself in the situation by hanging his head down. i also know there's comparison to the hit on hamhuis that caused his concussion (no penalty, no suspension). i would also like to point out that, b.ryan wasn't assessed a penalty for his foot stomping incident and was handed a 2 game suspension.
The Hawks commentator is an idiot. He was trying to settle down the puck!?!? The puck was no where near him! That waas just a intentional cheap shot at Luongo.
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The Hawks commentator is an idiot. He was trying to settle down the puck!?!? The puck was no where near him! That waas just a intentional cheap shot at Luongo.
Most US-based commentators are just HORRIBLE and don't seem to know what the hell they're talking about... hurts my ears sometimes just listening to them blab on about random useless shit.
Logically it would have seemed Canucks would have called it since they were in the tight spot being on 5-3 PK.
But Blackhawks was in an even tighter spot, being potentially down 3-0 in series if they don't score and win.
I'm not sure what to think of Canucks play of the past 2 games. Seems like Blackhawks had more control and scoring chances, even in 5 on 5.
But the bottom line is the Canucks were able to get the pucks in the net, one more time than the Blackhawks.
but I still felt a bit uneasy how Canucks weren't able to control them like how they did in the first period of game 1.
Maybe I'm just expecting a more convincing win... but I'll still take these one goal wins.
Elimination game will always be the toughest. I hope it doesn't get into their heads. I need Canucks to win, cause I will be busy on Thursday night.
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i feel i need to say that i felt it was a clean hockey play and seabrook put himself in the situation by hanging his head down. i also know there's comparison to the hit on hamhuis that caused his concussion (no penalty, no suspension). i would also like to point out that, b.ryan wasn't assessed a penalty for his foot stomping incident and was handed a 2 game suspension.
I'm with you bro.
but too bad torres does not have the same status as ryan.
also, seabrook has a slightly higher status than hamhuis.
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CHICAGO – The captain of the Chicago Blackhawks is not going to concede anything – not the Stanley Cup, not this first-round playoff series, not even that the Vancouver Canucks have become a better team. Not yet.
Jonathan Toews(notes) stood defiantly in the dressing room Sunday night, after a 3-2 loss put the defending champions in a 3-0 hole, when he was asked a simple question: Are the Canucks just harder to play against this year?
“I mean, that’s the thing,” Toews said.
He sighed deeply.
“Everyone wants to look at the stats all year and talk about what they do well and how good of a team they are,” Toews continued. “That’s what’s frustrating. We’re not exposing them for what they really are.”
But maybe that’s the thing.
Maybe the Blackhawks have exposed the Canucks for what they really are – the best team in the NHL, or at least a better team than the one that lost to Chicago in the second round each of the past two years.
And maybe the Canucks have exposed the Blackhawks for what they really are – a fraction of their former selves.
It was no fluke that the Canucks won the Presidents’ Trophy as the league’s top regular-season team. They did it by a 10-point margin. They scored the most goals and allowed the fewest. They ranked first on the power play and third on the penalty kill.
It was no fluke that the Blackhawks backed into the playoffs, either, slipping into the eighth spot in the Western Conference on the last day of the regular season only because the Dallas Stars failed to beat the Minnesota Wild.
In the aftermath of their playoff losses, the Canucks added depth and became more businesslike. In the afterglow of their Cup victory, the Blackhawks had to part with 10 members of their championship team – important role players like Dustin Byfuglien(notes) and Kris Versteeg(notes) and Andrew Ladd(notes) and John Madden(notes) – because of the salary cap.
This is the result: The defending champions are not only on the brink of elimination at the hands of the newly anointed favorites, they’re on the verge of being swept.
“I think a lot of people outside this locker room are giving them too much credit, and maybe we are as well,” Toews said. “We know that we can be a better team than them. We just haven’t shown it yet.”
The ’Hawks are running out of time.
They had ample opportunity Sunday to show they at least could make this a series.
The storyline entering Game 3 was how they had fallen behind in both games in Vancouver, gone 0-for-5 on the power play and gotten no production from their top players. Toews, Patrick Sharp(notes), Marian Hossa(notes), Duncan Keith(notes) and Brent Seabrook(notes) had combined for zero points. Patrick Kane(notes) had only a secondary assist.
This time they had the roar of their home fans behind them, took the lead, scored twice on the power play and got something out of their stars. Keith and Sharp scored. Toews had two assists, Kane had another assist and both had plenty of scoring chances.
Still, it wasn’t enough.
Canucks goaltender Roberto Luongo(notes), who had struggled against Chicago in previous postseasons, showed he had put the past behind him. Keith blasted a puck by him in the first period, and the fans taunted him and called his name. But when the ’Hawks had a one-minute, 17-second two-man advantage soon afterward, he stopped Toews and Kane – bang, bang – and then stoned Sharp with his right pad.
The ’Hawks tried everything. They dressed John Scott(notes) for his first career playoff game, then threw him out on the second power play unit late in the first, hoping his 6-foot-8, 258-pound frame could bother Luongo the way big Buff used to.
But Scott is no Byfuglien. He played 40 games in the regular season and had only one assist. He averaged one second of power-play time, according to NHL.com. One second. He lumbered around, and the ’Hawks never got set up to use him as a screen for a point shot.
Then Scott took an interference penalty in the second period, and the Canucks capitalized. Christian Ehrhoff(notes) scored on the ensuing power play. Daniel Sedin(notes) struck 54 seconds later. Suddenly, the ’Hawks trailed, 2-1.
“We played exactly how we wanted to play,” Chicago coach Joel Quenneville said, “until they scored their first goal.”
Consider the Scott experiment over. He didn’t play another shift after his penalty. But this is what it has come down to for the ’Hawks – taking a chance on a guy simply because of his size, playing a rookie on the top line simply because he has shown some spunk.
Give Ben Smith credit. He scored a key goal when he came up from the minors for the final three games of the regular season, and he scored twice in Game 2, his playoff debut. But Ben Smith, in his eighth NHL game, with so much at stake, playing with Toews and Kane? Ben Smith?
From the first day of training camp, the Blackhawks’ obvious challenge was to replace the heart and soul they had lost in the off-season. They knew their core players would have to carry them. But their core players have been able to carry them only so far, while the Canucks have looked less like last year’s Canucks and more like last year’s … well, like last year’s Blackhawks.
Sharp tied the game on the power play in the second. Early in the third, Toews and Kane had a chance to give the ’Hawks the lead. But Luongo stopped Toews, then lunged to his left and robbed Kane with his glove along the ice. Mikael Samuelsson(notes) scored what would be the winner soon afterward.
“He’s a better goalie, but our team is better in front of him,” Canucks captain Henrik Sedin(notes) said of Luongo. “We didn’t help him a lot of nights last year or the year before. We gave up a lot of chances. We’re a different team this year. We are a different group.”
however this turns out, the silver lining here is we don't need torres at the moment. we won the first two games fine without him and raymond would be more comfortable on the wing with hodgson as the natural centre. hell, AV put lapierre in between hansen and raymond for the last 4 mins or so!
The best part is reading the Hawks forum. A few days before series starts predictions was a steady stream and pages of Hawks in 5, Hawks in 6 no chance even given to Vancouver even though they win the Presidents trophy and the Hawks back in.
Then after game one it's, all we need is a split we got this in 6 no problem.
Heading into today it's, we're coming home we aren't losing at home.
Now it's, Fuck, series is over we're dead and pages on how the Torres hit is like the most dirty hit ever in the NHL. They also complained about the reffing..... ya thats right the refs were biased towards us!!! HAHAHA I get it, we're all homers for our own team but these guys are fricking delusional.
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