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Old 04-20-2011, 09:34 AM   #24226
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:57 AM   #24228
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barry trotz and lindy ruff will never get fired by their organization
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quick wiki says 97 - present as NHL coach. damn.
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They'll need to fire AV and find someone who can handle Luongo's ego better. Things like starting him in the 2nd period shows that he's not capable of coaching Lu. I don't know if there is anyone who can, that's the issue...
uhm.. it was 1-1 heading into the 2nd period. i'm not sure where you're drawing this conclusion from. also, the entire 2nd period was a brain fart for our 6 guys on the ice, not just lu.
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If the team collapses, what would be Mr. Gillis's next move?
Get rid of torres raymond and salo, sign brad richards

because
-we are first in every category except pk which we are tied for 2nd?
-coaching staff are responsible for offensive and defensive (pp 1st and pk tied 2nd)
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Only reason we will collapse is the ref and the nhl trying to help big american nhl market teams by being unfair (phantom calls and ridiculous suspensions)
I agree with all your points but, Brad Richards? Too expensive plus it doesnt look like we need another centreman in our lineup

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If the team collapses, what would be Mr. Gillis's next move?
Get rid of torres raymond and salo, sign brad richards

because
-we are first in every category except pk which we are tied for 2nd?
-coaching staff are responsible for offensive and defensive (pp 1st and pk tied 2nd)
-we have 2 back to back mvp and art ross winner
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-best defense core when healthy

Only reason we will collapse is the ref and the nhl trying to help big american nhl market teams by being unfair (phantom calls and ridiculous suspensions)

the ref didnt help the canucks lose.. if you see the posted image of the penalties that were called on either side, it was pretty even..

also, the canucks did not show up.. whether or not the refs had anything to do with the penalties or not, the canucks didn't deserve to win. this thrashing is a blessing in disguise.. remember the last time the canucks got shelled by chicago??? they went on an absolute TEAR!
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Yeah, too many people whining about phantom calls. Unless it was as bad as the Auger/Burrows incident,
we're just looking for excuses to cover up Canucks' pitiful effort.

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They'll need to fire AV and find someone who can handle Luongo's ego better. Things like starting him in the 2nd period shows that he's not capable of coaching Lu. I don't know if there is anyone who can, that's the issue...
You mean 3rd period?

The 6th goal wasn't necessary before Lu got the yank.
The no Timeout was also a bad move after the two quick goals.
By the way the Canucks played in comparison to the Blackhawks,
probably wouldn't have made a difference... but the TO would have just
been a good coaching move in general.

Most Timeouts are never used in a game. I don't see why not use them.
Often, the coaches are saving it for "just in case" later in the game. But if they aren't
used at a crucial time earlier (or whenever fit) in the game, it might be too late by the
time the coach is "ready" to use it later.
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Having brad richards is obviously a fantasy choice but hes a former playoff mvp, point per game player and one of the best two way forward in the game.

Losing salo(3.5) torres (1.0) UFA, trade raymond (2.6) plus salary cap is up 2.6 mill?

ballard and rome are good enough to step up the bottom pairing in our defence
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you forget to mention bieksa and ehrhoff they are both ufas and ehrhoff is gunna want a raise because hes been our most consistent dman and richards is not one of the best two way forwards hes a minus player for his career hes more offensively minded
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How quickly people forget......... AV, IMHO, is a damn good coach. Even though he is a Frenchie, LOLOLOLOLOLOL.
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NHL players don't get paid much for playoff games. ie. ($50K for losing 1st round team, split amongst the team, paid by league). So for incentive, wouldn't owners want their team to play more home games? contracts are only for 82 games of regular season, with bonuses for home-games played during playoffs?

If that's the case, there is tremendous incentive to extend the series for the benefit of the players, as well as for the owners.

I don't know... just saying. they really didnt' show up last night. but perhaps that is consciously or sub-conciously done... It's unlikely Canucks will lose 4 in a row. so why not throw one to get paid?
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Besides the team store...... anyone see any Hamhuis or Edler jerseys around town? All I see are Luongos,Sedins.
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We've been doing awesome all year yet you ask about failure? Enjoy the run and worry about it later.

Maybe you're just asking a "matter of fact" question but we're in the middle of a bloody playoff race, up 3-1 in our series. I'm not even remotely considering any failure by the team. A loss here or there - sure - but we, as a team, haven't "collapsed" all season long.

I'll consider the future of the team when our season is over... in June....after the parade.
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NHL players don't get paid much for playoff games. ie. ($50K for losing 1st round team, split amongst the team, paid by league). So for incentive, wouldn't owners want their team to play more home games? contracts are only for 82 games of regular season, with bonuses for home-games played during playoffs?

If that's the case, there is tremendous incentive to extend the series for the benefit of the players, as well as for the owners.

I don't know... just saying. they really didnt' show up last night. but perhaps that is consciously or sub-conciously done... It's unlikely Canucks will lose 4 in a row. so why not throw one to get paid?
You obviously don't play sports. Also we are talking about the holy grail of all trophies.
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Bieksa and Ehroff are obviously going to find a way and a deal that will work for both sides to get resigned, i dont see either wanting to leave Van.
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NHL players don't get paid much for playoff games. ie. ($50K for losing 1st round team, split amongst the team, paid by league). So for incentive, wouldn't owners want their team to play more home games? contracts are only for 82 games of regular season, with bonuses for home-games played during playoffs?

If that's the case, there is tremendous incentive to extend the series for the benefit of the players, as well as for the owners.

I don't know... just saying. they really didnt' show up last night. but perhaps that is consciously or sub-conciously done... It's unlikely Canucks will lose 4 in a row. so why not throw one to get paid?


Aquilini and the Canucks will make way more $$$$$$ if they close the series in Vancouver. Thursday night downtown will be nuts and millions of dollars will be spent on booze and whores in celebration.
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I still have the image of Sharp celebrating after he scored a goal yesterday. Like c'mon, do you need to celebrate like you've never scored? Fucking Hawks, they score and they celebrate and taunt like shit.
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You obviously don't play sports. Also we are talking about the holy grail of all trophies.
Yes, you're right. Well, half-right. I do play sports, not professionally and definitely not for money, especially the kind of money NHL players are making. You can't say that $$$ don't factor into the equation at all.

Of course there is pride and trophy on the line. but come on... these guys know it's going to be a long haul to the cup and that they cannot and will not win every single game, as much pride as there is in doing so. So, you have a bad game, take it easier one game (they certainly didn't seem as sharp as first two games or play as hard into corners), or not getting your rhythm for one game, is not going to be that bad, especially when you can close out at home ice in front of home crowd with possible monetary bonuses.

Whatever the case, it doesn't really matter... You cna't complain about more playoff hockey to watch.
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Metrotown sportchek has the 3rd edler jerseys. Went by on Monday and they had a few small, medium, couple large and xl I think. $220 + tax.
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If that's the case, there is tremendous incentive to extend the series for the benefit of the players, as well as for the owners.

I don't know... just saying. they really didnt' show up last night. but perhaps that is consciously or sub-conciously done... It's unlikely Canucks will lose 4 in a row. so why not throw one to get paid?
You obviously don't play sports. Also we are talking about the holy grail of all trophies.
Many of us DO play sports, but the big difference here is that none of us are PAID (big money, might I add) to play sports. So we'll never know how money factors into the equation - if it does.

Edit: Point I was trying to make, which BlueG2 does a better job of, is that we play sports for fun, whereas for these guys, it's their job.
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Think of it this way.. we are all paid at our jobs... All of us can admit that we are guilty of slacking off, some more than others... Hockey players and athletes are just under the microscope. They are human. As much as most of us love hockey, and or whatever sport we love to play, imagine being at the rink 5-6 days a week, and playing a meaningful game 3-4 days a week for 82 games.. THEN to have playoffs, every other day at the intensity that it is.. Money isn't that much of a motivator if your are putting yoru body on the line.. You will tire out fast mentally and physically if you are a pro athlete.

Even with my work, sometimes there is not enough money in the world that will get me to work when it is my day off.

Yes they make much more than most people out there, but still they are human. To have a couple off games here and there is understandable. Those of us who have played sports all know that there are some games where you just can't get into it, and or, your team just does not click.
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