Getting my own parts for an ICBC repair?

[Toeknee]

There might be existing thread on this but I couldn't find it, so please bear with me

I got into an accident and my front bumper/fender/hood is messed. I have talked w/ ICBC and they will be inspecting it tomorrow. If everything goes smoothly I hope the repair can begin soon. I don't have the OE policy so I don't think ICBC will buy OEM parts for me; they will use knockoff parts (I think?) and fit them on and it'll look identical as before.

I was wondering, if i wanted to buy body panel parts on my own for the repair process, does ICBC allow that? Say if I wanted to do a front JDM conversion, could I tell them to order the fender/hood/headlights from Acura (CSX parts) and I'll cover the difference? If that's allowed, would I be able to buy from buy/used postings and have ICBC pay for their share of that part, or is that pushing it?

[tool001]

u can opt for getting money and do repair urself/get it down urself. but ull be lowballed.

or if the shop ur getting the work done @. can work something out w/ u.

[Grim]

if you are afraid that icbc will use knock off parts for your car, then u should take your car to a bodyshop that u know.
they can order brand new OEM parts for u..
but if your thinking of switching up to after market parts... then it might not work.

[6thGear.]

The policy you are referring to is called "replacement cost policy". Since you don't have that coverage, ICBC will only allow used oem or jobber(aftermarket oe style) parts only. You are only allowed to replace what was originally on the car if you're going through icbc. They will not allow your jdm conversion, since that wasn't originally on the car that was in the accident. Any shop that does that otherwise and if ICBC finds out, then both parties are in deep shit. And believe me, ICBC isn't dumb. If by any chance you somehow miraculously convince your adjuster or estimator, you will then only be able to buy new, in other words, no CL or RS or B&S parts. Parts needs to have reciepts and be new.

[Amaru]

Originally Posted by 6thGear.

You are only allowed to replace what was originally on the car if you're going through icbc.

Really? I had aftermarket tail lights on my vehicle, and a hotel valet smashed the rear corner into a wall. ICBC agreed to reimburse me for anything up to the cost of an OEM replacement if I wanted to buy the aftermarket tail lights again.

The body shop sent an estimate for the OEM tail light to ICBC, and I provided the body shop with the aftermarket tail light. ICBC then issued me a check for the cost of the OEM tail light.

I don't have "replacement cost" insurance as far as I know, either. I realize that my situation was different from the OP's, as these aftermarket parts were already installed when the vehicle was damaged... he wants new parts that weren't previously on the car, so that's slightly different. Nonetheless, if it were me, I'd first speak to the ICBC adjuster and then if that doesn't work, I'd speak to a manager at the body shop. They may be inclined if it saves them money on parts?

[Expresso]

Yea its do-able, you just have to find a shop willing to do it. Most shops won't unless they know you pretty well. This is probably how majority of the JDM front DC2s started popping up back in the day.

[6thGear.]

Sorry, I meant on the car at the time of the accident. The OP can't go up to icbc asking for oem parts, but if say there aren't any jobber or used parts, then icbc would have to replace with oem parts. But he is asking for completely different oem parts that wasn't even on the car to begin with. Hope that helps.

[6thGear.]

Originally Posted by HachiSix

This is probably how majority of the JDM front DC2s started popping up back in the day.

And majority of those shops are most likely shut down or icbc pulled their license. It all started way back in the 90's with Eurosport and since then, icbc has cracked down on shops doing that. Back then, shops would go as far as paying your deductible as well, now, good luck asking shops to do that. Like I said, ICBC isn't stupid. The only way I see it happening, is if the parts the OP is asking for is equal to or lesser value than the allowance icbc has given to fix the repair.

[FerrariEnzo]

the best thing to do is go to a dealer and get the prices for the OEM parts and present that to ICBC and say that you will buy it yourself and that you already have a shop that will install everything for you, have prices from the shop also. Then have ICBC cut you a check for that amount or close to it if they want to lowball you on that...

[Toeknee]

Originally Posted by 6thGear.

And majority of those shops are most likely shut down or icbc pulled their license. It all started way back in the 90's with Eurosport and since then, icbc has cracked down on shops doing that. Back then, shops would go as far as paying your deductible as well, now, good luck asking shops to do that. Like I said, ICBC isn't stupid. The only way I see it happening, is if the parts the OP is asking for is equal to or lesser value than the allowance icbc has given to fix the repair.

Not even if I'm covering the difference eh...

I had a glance at the jobber parts, they are pretty damn cheap.... damn probably won't be able to find csx parts for that low

[Nvasion]

6thgear do you work at northshore acura by any chance?



also what you said about replacement is very correct. icbc only allowed a person to use oem if there isnt jobber or recycled parts avaibile



toeknee- what csx parts are you looking for? i could possibly find you a price for oem and jobber.

[Energy]

I believe you can do this as long as the parts are the same price. I used to have an 08 Civic 4 door. Got into a front end accident and asked the bodyshop to use parts off the 09 Civic - an 09 front end conversion. It helps if you have a good relationship with the bodyshop.

If prices for the parts are different, you cover the difference. Example is I had aftermarket fogs and they wanted to use oem fogs. Price difference between the two was $100 out of my pocket.

Most people won't even know the difference between the 08 and 09 civic but you should

[Energy]

And the parts have to be irreparably damaged in order for them to be replaced.

I had the HFP front lip for my 08. It was fixable so they wouldn't buy me a new HFP lip for the 09 front bumper. I had to buy the 09 lip but they would paint it for free because they were originally going to repaint the repairable 08 lip. Hope that helps.

[moomooCow]

I'm in a very similar situation, I have a claim from icbc quoting a new hood and a new set of grilles for about 1700. I found a used cf hood that comes with the grille and I've been wondering how I can make this work..

[exhil]

hey you got pm!

[buddy]

I think all you need to do is to inform ICBC about the situation and pay the price difference because the jobber parts ICBC willing to cover and oem parts you want to be installed ...

[hk20000]

I hear the case is basically that you will be covered for whatever that was mounted on the car at the time of the accident.

Ask tofuboi he just got rear ended and had another N1 style muffler installed back into the car because "that's what was on the car at the time of the accident"

In other words, those pictures they take when you bring your car into ICBC estimation center would determine what kind of parts they are allowed to install back onto the car at the time of the claim.

My AE86 front JDM bumper got somehow ripped out of the car by a 5 ton truck and they replaced the whole JDM bumper (which is available through Toyota dealerships, interestingly enough) and a set of JDM corner lights - also "because that's what was on the car at the time of accident". ICBC would investigate if the car comes out of repair looking significantly different from the wreck that went into the estimation center. ICBC wants to and will see the car after it is done. That's what estimators are paid to do, especially if the claim value has been repeatedly reassessed (jacked up) during the repair.

hope that clarifies it for you.

[josel_atr]

sorry to highjack the thread but i have a question...

i understand that icbc wants the body shop to "restore the car to its original condition before the accident" and the body shops look for "cheaper, more cost effective replacement before the go for oem replacement". but what if slapping a jdm rear bumper to replace the north american rear bumper is far more cost effective? in my car, its a few hundred $$$ difference in getting a jdm bumper vs getting a painted one from the dealer. will icbc issue me a cheque to get my preferred, more cost effective replacement parts when they fix my car if i show compared prices assuming the body shop is willing to work with me? its win win situation for icbc since they wont pay dealer prices and for me because i get the parts that i want.

[Phil@rise]

Originally Posted by Toeknee

There might be existing thread on this but I couldn't find it, so please bear with me

I got into an accident and my front bumper/fender/hood is messed. I have talked w/ ICBC and they will be inspecting it tomorrow. If everything goes smoothly I hope the repair can begin soon. I don't have the OE policy so I don't think ICBC will buy OEM parts for me; they will use knockoff parts (I think?) and fit them on and it'll look identical as before.

I was wondering, if i wanted to buy body panel parts on my own for the repair process, does ICBC allow that? Say if I wanted to do a front JDM conversion, could I tell them to order the fender/hood/headlights from Acura (CSX parts) and I'll cover the difference? If that's allowed, would I be able to buy from buy/used postings and have ICBC pay for their share of that part, or is that pushing it?

Short answer No.
You can opt to cash out with ICBC and repair your car as you see fit with the funds but they give you less money then what the claim would be worth otherwise.

[6thGear.]

Originally Posted by Toeknee

Not even if I'm covering the difference eh...

I had a glance at the jobber parts, they are pretty damn cheap.... damn probably won't be able to find csx parts for that low

Basically, if you want to do this, run it by ICBC FIRST! Don't go behind their back to put those parts you want on the car. How ICBC seems to work lately is they give a price to fix your car...so say the allowance on parts is $1800. If you can find new parts(with reciepts) to replace, that are equivalent to or less than $1800, ICBC would mostly do it.

Example. My buddy had a similar thing like yours..but he had to replace 1 headlight on his A4 but he didn't want one new headlight and the other all oxidized. So he convinced icbc to allow him to buy a pair, but that pair had to be under his allowance. So he went on to ebay and bought a pair with those ricey R8 led's in them.

Originally Posted by Nvasion

6thgear do you work at northshore acura by any chance?

Nope. But I do work in the industry and for the last year, I've been lurking in the office learning the icbc ways..haha.

[Toeknee]

Originally Posted by Nvasion

6thgear do you work at northshore acura by any chance?



also what you said about replacement is very correct. icbc only allowed a person to use oem if there isnt jobber or recycled parts avaibile



toeknee- what csx parts are you looking for? i could possibly find you a price for oem and jobber.

Hi Nvasion, the csx parts I was looking for are:
hood
fender (both sides)
bumper
grille
headlights

I believe all of them will bolt and clip right into the oem front assy. Jobber/salvage or not I don't care. Damn, if only local places sold jdm parts...

Ohhh man I really want to make this work... thanks

[JL9000]

Originally Posted by buddy

I think all you need to do is to inform ICBC about the situation and pay the price difference because the jobber parts ICBC willing to cover and oem parts you want to be installed ...

^ This.

I've done this with ICBC in the past. A recent example involved a damaged trunk that had a factory lip spoiler. The adjuster was okay with covering the value of the spoiler as credit towards another spoiler.

[6thGear.]

1 or 2 small items, they would "ok" it. But we're talking about the front end here...different story.

So, to the OP, I assume you have a civic, but you want to convert to csx front?

[Toeknee]

Yup, just exploring the possibility of doing it. Waiting for the inspector to go look at it and give a repair estimate in the meantime.

[kokanee_vtec]

Get the claim from ICBC then find a body shop that does custom work and tell them you want to do a front end conversion and that you are willing to pay extra for parts. There is a local guy on 8thcivic who got a CTR conversion done on his FA5, so ask on there.