hmmm...ive heard anavar and tbol are very similar...both are bitchtits and depression free. but both can be extremely toxic to your liver in high/abusive doses and raise your cholesterol.

have you run anavar with tbol or heard of people doing that?

i wonder how rough that would be on your liver taking those two orals. That being said, Im sure that fat would just pour off you with that combo.

i have also heard good things about stacking clen and anavar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergogen...bolic_steroids

I don't need to convince anyone if i'm doing the right thing, I'm doing it for my own benefit, so your the one sounding like an idiot.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2232/...0d5005ba_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/253/5...96d8e518_b.jpg

ignore the stupid pose.

holy shit man....you dropped a lot of weight! so was that on your first cutting cycle? or is that current? or all natural dieting?

congrats either way

Here is me last august...at 15%

as i said before im probably 19-20% right now...but suprisingly dont notice that much of difference

http://a.imageshack.us/img833/6859/a...gt1937lbsc.jpg

that was when i first lost weight in 2007. That was all natural (unless you consider ephidrine illegal)

lol...well good job!

fuck i would be Ronnie Coleman iff i went on roids

what is your current weight ?
stats ?

I dont see the point in doing roids if you arn't stacking. correct me if im wrong.

honestly injectables arn't that bad, as long as you are using a smaller gauge needle to fill the bigger gauge needles, that way the needle enter's painlessly.

thats gross hahahaha

When I eventually do roids I'll be stacking Anavar with Test... Sure you might not put on like 30-40 lbs like some stacks might do but if you can put on 15-20 lbs of solid muscle in 3 months I'd be happy...

btw Anavar is one of the safest roids you can take... some people actually use it as a bridge in between cycles..

im pretty sure test prop is.

Test Prop will shut your natural test down when done with dosages high enough to see big improvements.. Anavar really has almost no side effects other then being really expensive..

The film was so-so. It reads like the a Michael Moore or Zeitgeist documentary where it reads like a one-sided agenda based documentary.

Unfortunately because of that approach, a lot of people like myself who aren't well-versed with steroid usage will be taking a lot of the information with a grain of salt; pertinent information included.

That's because most steroids generally have little side effects.
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and yeah anavar is expensive. Well see how this cycle goes.

of course it is one sided, they want you to think that roids are fine and everyone does them, its like if they made a movie about smoking, no one dies from smoking cigs but its the " side effects that kill you "

http://www.filmjunk.com/2008/12/22/m...er-found-dead/


Bigger, Stronger, Faster was one of my favourite documentaries from the past year, and if you haven’t seen it, the movie examines the causes and effects of steroid use as seen through the eyes of the filmmaker and his two brothers. This week we have some sad news that one of the film’s subjects has passed away. Mike “Mad Dog” Bell, the older brother of director Chris Bell, was found dead on December 14th at a live-in rehabilitation facility in Costa Mesa, California. He was 37 years old.

Bell worked as a wrestler for WWE’s Monday Night Raw, and had struggled for years with an addiction to alcohol and painkillers (although he had been clean for at least 60 days prior to his death). In some ways, this reflects the reality of Mickey Rourke’s performance in The Wrestler. Chris Bell had this to say about his brother’s death: “You can’t really blame wrestling, but it’s kind of the lifestyle… You have a couple of painkillers to get to the next match, have a couple drinks night to night and it gets out of hand.” The question a lot of people are wondering is whether or not his death was related in any way to steroids. The autopsy was inconclusive, but the coroner is currently awaiting the results of a toxicology test. (Thanks to Rico for the heads up!)

the pain killer is a cover up for sure
what do u think he was doing half his life not roids :rolleyes:

i'd blame hgh before i blamed steroids.,

i liked the documentary for showing both sides of the argument and not really taking sides by say steroids are good/bad and revealing society's hypocritcal views about the drug.

i was thinking about using anavar till i read about the hairloss side effect

you only 'possibly' lose your hair when your on it....when you go off of it..then your back to normal..thats why people do it in shorter cycles like 8-12 weeks so it doesnt do permenant damage




Here is a good cutting stack I have really been pondering:


Clenbuterol (100 tabs @ 40mcg)
T3 (100 tabs @ 100mcg)
Nolvadex (120tabs @ 20mgs)
Arimidex (28 tabs @ 1mg)

Week Clenbuterol T3 Arimidex Nolvadex
1 40mcgs/ED 20mcgs/ED 0.25mgs/ED 40mgs/ED
2 60mcgs/ED 20mcgs/ED 0.25mgs/ED 40mgs/ED
3 --OFF-- 40mcgs/ED 0.25mgs/ED 40mgs/ED
4 --OFF-- 40mcgs/ED 0.25mgs/ED 40mgs/ED
5 60mcgs/ED 60mcgs/ED 0.25mgs/ED 40mgs/ED
6 80mcgs/ED 40mcgs/ED 0.25mgs/ED 40mgs/ED
7 --OFF-- 20mcgs/ED 0.25mgs/ED 20mgs/ED
8 80mcgs/ED 20mcgs/ED 0.25mgs/ED 20mgs/ED

is anyone here using roids to get jacked or just to loose fat ????

there is only one person using roids here.............others in limbo

my friends on tren/eth/eq and he got pretty jacked fast.