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i dont judge people who take them(a few good friends have taken tbol, test-e, etc)....i only judge people who take them and their ego goes through the roof and their personality changes(some ex friends).
there are a lot worse 'drugs' out there that are legal, that people take every day.
i would contemplate going on the juice to better myself in the profession if it was legal.
who wouldnt want the most capable, physically strong firefighter or police officer to help them.
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Well I started taking winstrol and test prop and I can honestly say that I've been shedding weight like a mad man and the urge and desire to go to the gym has gone through the roof. My confidence has gone up and I just feel better about myself than I ever did.
i dont judge people who take them(a few good friends have taken tbol, test-e, etc)....i only judge people who take them and their ego goes through the roof and their personality changes(some ex friends).
there are a lot worse 'drugs' out there that are legal, that people take every day.
i would contemplate going on the juice to better myself in the profession if it was legal.
who wouldnt want the most capable, physically strong firefighter or police officer to help them.
I know quite a few Cops and Firefighters (as I used to work in the industry) that use a lot of juice. Pretty common I would say.
I know quite a few Cops and Firefighters (as I used to work in the industry) that use a lot of juice. Pretty common I would say.
ya, my friends who do it are all in emergency services.
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Well I started taking winstrol and test prop and I can honestly say that I've been shedding weight like a mad man and the urge and desire to go to the gym has gone through the roof. My confidence has gone up and I just feel better about myself than I ever did.
when did you u last run a cycle?
lots of my buddies praise winstrol cause they were dropping weight super fast, and kept great lean muscle with no water weight gain..they said they were pissing a million times a day though(which is probably why there was no water weight retention)
how did you find test prop? i could never inject myself...being a medic...needles can never enter my skin, but i have no problem setting a drip up on someone. LOL
my ideal set up would be winstrol w/ tbol (maybe an 8 week cycle).....though that would kill my liver as both are oral(so you would have to keep it on low doses), but at least both of these would never cause water weight retention. both are great for cutting and they have the proper compounds to make it through your liver for a first and possibly second pass.
then after a good cut, I would just run just tbol after an 8 week recovery cycle...dont know what i would use for recovery though
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ya, my friends who do it are all in emergency services.
when did you u last run a cycle?
lots of my buddies praise winstrol cause they were dropping weight super fast, and kept great lean muscle with no water weight gain..they said they were pissing a million times a day though(which is probably why there was no water weight retention)
how did you find test prop? i could never inject myself...being a medic...needles can never enter my skin, but i have no problem setting a drip up on someone. LOL
my ideal set up would be winstrol w/ tbol (maybe an 8 week cycle).....though that would kill my liver as both are oral(so you would have to keep it on low doses), but at least both of these would never cause water weight retention. both are great for cutting and they have the proper compounds to make it through your liver for a first and possibly second pass.
then after a good cut, I would just run just tbol after an 8 week recovery cycle...dont know what i would use for recovery though
Winstrol/test prop is great because when I'm trying to lose 40 pounds and it prevents muscle wasting. Yeah injectibles suck especially by yourself, but you just gotta be smart about it. Also it helps to get a good source of test prop. This is my first cycle. If you find needles painful, get a smaller guage needle and fill it into the bigger gauge. It's been about 2 and a half weeks now and I defiently look alot different. Now I just gotta stop eating shit and I'll look amazing. After my cycle is over gotta get on clomid. Oral's are hard on your liver but only in high doses. I'm taking about 40mg of winstrol a day.
Wait isn't tbol a gainer? Why would you take a cutter and a gainer 0_o.
Well I started taking winstrol and test prop and I can honestly say that I've been shedding weight like a mad man and the urge and desire to go to the gym has gone through the roof. My confidence has gone up and I just feel better about myself than I ever did.
I honestly think that they should experiment with test injections as a way to deal with mild depression. I've never done it but everyone I know that has says its actually the best feeling in the world.
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Wait isn't tbol a gainer? Why would you take a cutter and a gainer 0_o.
tbol is more strength than gainer...It also helps because it doesnt make you retain water and also helps with getting that 'hard' look, just like winny.
so I would be doing a cutting/strength cycle, though im not to sure what you would take for a PCT with it.
Regarding needles...one of my buddies gets his other friend to inject it for him, so he doesnt have to do it to himself.
MajinHurricane what was your b/f % before starting the cycle and what are you expecting it to be after?
question...my buddy told me it is only illegal to buy/sell steroids, but it is NOT illegal to be in possession.
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lol. i honestly do believe every athelete is on some type of performance enhancer. And most people I meet take them. About 2 million americans a year take AAS for cosmetic purposes. Stop hating. (in response to louis)
tbol is more strength than gainer...It also helps because it doesnt make you retain water and also helps with getting that 'hard' look, just like winny.
so I would be doing a cutting/strength cycle, though im not to sure what you would take for a PCT with it.
Regarding needles...one of my buddies gets his other friend to inject it for him, so he doesnt have to do it to himself.
MajinHurricane what was your b/f % before starting the cycle and what are you expecting it to be after?
question...my buddy told me it is only illegal to buy/sell steroids, but it is NOT illegal to be in possession.
no its illegal to have in possession.
I dont know what my bodyfat is but from what people are telling me I look 100% better than I did 2 and a half weeks ago. my goal is to get down to 15%. Right now i'm probably at 25.
Steroid discussion is fine (aside from selling), if people are willing to admit they do it
most of my friends were very open about taking them...i didnt know people were embarrassed about it
the pro's outweigh the very rare con's(for people who dont abuse it)
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no its illegal to have in possession.
I dont know what my bodyfat is but from what people are telling me I look 100% better than I did 2 and a half weeks ago. my goal is to get down to 15%. Right now i'm probably at 25.
good to know.
ya, im probably 19%(200-205lbs-6'2") right now....hitting single digits would be nice.
im sure ill give myself another year of steady gym and diet, before i start...who knows, i might be happy with my progress after a year and just keep it natural
and if not...ill just get one of my buddies to help me stick, cause im too much of a pussy to do it to myself
Hey, are you taking cod liver oil suppliments during your whole cycle including PCT?
you'll need to keep your joints lubed, as winny dries them out after a while.
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My BF right now is about 8%, wouldn't mind getting lower, but it's too difficult lifestyle wise.
Can't do injections either, wish I could cause that's real crank obviously. Just something about putting a needle into muscle that creeps me out, doesn't seem right even if a friend or gf does it for you.
Of the orals I've done, I enjoyed Anavar the most, little to no side effects other than a little back break outs and some dry skin. Incredible strength and muscle hardness though.
I would suggest running that with some TBOL, or Primo if you can get your hands on it.
Do a month of clen too if you want to drop further BF. Avavar is a better choice than Winny, trust me on that one, Winny is some toxic nasty shit, Anavar is not.
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lol. i honestly do believe every athelete is on some type of performance enhancer. And most people I meet take them. About 2 million americans a year take AAS for cosmetic purposes. Stop hating. (in response to louis)
No hating. Just a really BOLD statement you made with no actual references aside from people YOU met.
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id be curious to see how big of a difference you had....no homo
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