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Yes the Mazda6's set of headlights is what Im looking to use when I have extra money, except I think I might have to re-angle the lights and reposition the glass shield to make it perfect... you can barely see it in the right headlight here
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Originally Posted by jstn86
You keep mentioning about how you will sell limited numbers of your kit cars to high-end, rich customers...
Do you not realize that "high-end, rich" customers will not want to pay $$$ for a backyard, home made craft car?
What price range do you expect your car to be around?
The reason why they buy supercars is that they look incredible INSIDE AND OUT.
Nothing will be a limited edition and the rich customers that I spoke of before are for the One-77 replica. I have planned for on a new secret (for now) donor and in the replica world, the interior is also important and Im confident that with the technology that I have access to, I can also replicate the inside too. The only problem I might run into is the driver airbag, but Im sure there will be solutions for this also.
Customers can always customize the motor and upgrade any suspension parts to their own specifications and budget.
The replica that I'll be marketing costs $2million dollars (limited to 77) and I estimate my replica to start from a base of 30k plus. Even middle class customers can buy it the same way they finance a new car at the bank. The Aston One-77 should be seen in person to really grasp what a beautiful piece of art it really is. I wish to see it one day but until then, I will own a replica of it.
30k and your customer can pay for it like a new car except it's old, put together by a kid in his garage, doesn't come with warranty. Might need work on the motor, it's not an exact replica of anything.
Check out all the cars with extreme bodykit. They usually have problem selling
I say u should price it at 1000. Makes way more sense.
Honestly I think u are preaching to the whole audience. Isn't there any forum for replica folks? U should post there and see what ur target market think. Why post here and get flame and laugh at when u could post sumwhere u belong an maybe that will actually land u a customer.
So um you are still paper mâché ing? It is going to take u 20 yr to built? U really should channel ur energy into something more productive like schooling or apprenticeship.who know maybe u will make enough money to drive a REAL one Posted via RS Mobile
30k and your customer can pay for it like a new car except it's old, put together by a kid in his garage, doesn't come with warranty. Might need work on the motor, it's not an exact replica of anything.
Check out all the cars with extreme bodykit. They usually have problem selling
I say u should price it at 1000. Makes way more sense.
Honestly I think u are preaching to the whole audience. Isn't there any forum for replica folks? U should post there and see what ur target market think. Why post here and get flame and laugh at when u could post sumwhere u belong an maybe that will actually land u a customer.
So um you are still paper mâché ing? It is going to take u 20 yr to built? U really should channel ur energy into something more productive like schooling or apprenticeship.who know maybe u will make enough money to drive a REAL one Posted via RS Mobile
Thanks for factoring in the fact that the Z32 chassis is an aging platform, and many have probably had the piss beaten out of them. If he was serious about this, he would be completely refreshing the entire car before selling it, but that would crank the final selling price WAY up. That's even before considering the possible rust that the donor car would have, and any outlying accident history or even rebuild status if he had to mass buy 300ZX's.
@ Slicer: A rich person would want a 300ZX so they wouldn't have to worry about their Aston, or Maserati being stolen if they drove it to a shady part of the GVRD ie. Surrey. Or, if they wanted to prove to his cognac-sipping rich friends that he can drive a poor (to him) person's sports car at will. Oh wait, they could get a cheap Lexus for that.
30k and your customer can pay for it like a new car except it's old, put together by a kid in his garage, doesn't come with warranty. Might need work on the motor, it's not an exact replica of anything.
Check out all the cars with extreme bodykit. They usually have problem selling
I think to assemble Extreme's kits, one has to do lots of modifications, but DNA's are bolt on and I dont see why a person in their right mind would not choose a perfect looking Ferrari for ~25k but would shell out that much for a Hyundai.
My kit will be an Aston, still rare and still beautiful, this would outweigh the fact that the car is used.
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I say u should price it at 1000. Makes way more sense.
Honestly I think u are preaching to the whole audience. Isn't there any forum for replica folks? U should post there and see what ur target market think. Why post here and get flame and laugh at when u could post sumwhere u belong an maybe that will actually land u a customer.
Maybe I can still make a decent profit if I sold my designed kit, but I would lose money for the Aston one at 1k. Customers are everywhere, take Robson street for example, there is a potential customer walking or driving on that street right now.
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So um you are still paper mâché ing? It is going to take u 20 yr to built? U really should channel ur energy into something more productive like schooling or apprenticeship.who know maybe u will make enough money to drive a REAL one Posted via RS Mobile
Ive come a long way, why slave for an awesome looking car when I can build one and have the satisfaction of making it myself.
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Can anyone explain to me please why a rich person would have a 300zx? Thanks.
First, this is what a replica looks like http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2126717.htm
A rich person would want the unattainable Aston Concept, and the donor I have in mind isnt a 300zx
Thanks for factoring in the fact that the Z32 chassis is an aging platform, and many have probably had the piss beaten out of them. If he was serious about this, he would be completely refreshing the entire car before selling it, but that would crank the final selling price WAY up. That's even before considering the possible rust that the donor car would have, and any outlying accident history or even rebuild status if he had to mass buy 300ZX's.
Non turbo Zeds have been know to be very reliable, go to a 300zx forum and they will answer all your questions. Its true that if the car doesnt have a maintenance history, it can become a money pit, but if one invests 3k for a rebuild, hoses, and sensors... possibly an electric harness too, totals to ~4k, the car should be powerful and reliable as new.
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@ Slicer: A rich person would want a 300ZX so they wouldn't have to worry about their Aston, or Maserati being stolen if they drove it to a shady part of the GVRD ie. Surrey. Or, if they wanted to prove to his cognac-sipping rich friends that he can drive a poor (to him) person's sports car at will. Oh wait, they could get a cheap Lexus for that.
Lets not forget the insurance rate, yearly tuneup, and the astronomical rate of parts that come with exotic cars. It brings up the question, how rich is rich.
Here are my car plans
1. make Vigor kit (front end only for the 300zx)
2. make Aston replica (not a 300zx donor, its a secret for now) [end of winter]
3. widebody and rear for Vigor and stock 300zx cars [next spring]
I think to assemble Extreme's kits, one has to do lots of modifications, but DNA's are bolt on and I dont see why a person in their right mind would not choose a perfect looking Ferrari for ~25k but would shell out that much for a Hyundai.
i would buy a genesis coupe or 2.0t sonata over your paper mache any day
What if the average Joe customer doesn't want to go to a forum for help because they don't know anything about wrenching on cars? Again, you have to sell the car completely refreshed, or no one would buy it at all. Even builders who use base platforms bring them back to new spec before selling them kitted, and that costs a hell of a lot of money. And you're just factoring the engine, what about the suspension, brakes, ENTIRE drive system, electrical, and interior refresh? That's maybe another 5-10k right there, on top of the 4k for just the engine. And if this is expected to be a "sports car", then the chassis and body rigidity would have to be refreshed. And how is a 3600 pound, 230HP car from the 90's POSSIBLY able to hold a candle to today's sports cars?
When customers expect a "new" car they expect EVERYTHING to be new.
Build ONE car, and keep it for yourself. all this "planning" is getting WAY too far ahead of yourself, which is only gonna set you up for disappointment when you find out no one wants your product, regardless of how much work and planning you put into it. You're trying to sprint when you haven't even started to crawl.
And people won't shell out 25k for a perfect "looking" Ferrari because it's NOT a Ferrari on the inside. Just because it says "Ferrari", doesn't mean it IS ONE. It's called a "replica" for a reason, its "replicating" the car, but will NEVER BE THE ORIGINAL THING. The Ferrari engine itself costs more than $25k, and you can't replicate distinct exhaust notes. It would be like buying a Chinese knockoff iPod for 30 dollars, and saying I have an iPod just because it looks like one. Reality check: IT ISN'T.
Also, just because your "future" Aston kit looks like an Aston does NOT take away from the fact the base car is USED. The car won't feel like an Aston, won't handle like an Aston, won't look like an Aston internally without ridiculous and expensive modification, won't sound like an Aston and won't be as fast as an Aston. tl;dr? it's NOT an Aston.
By the way, why does that 360 replica sound like a 4-banger? Oh wait, it's not the same. Again, who wants to buy a gutless replica? If it's a replica, replicate the sound, or throw a small-block V8 in it. That replica has a 1ZZ for gods sake.
Its hard enough to own a house without paying an extra 100,000 on top to the banks for the loan, but to buy expensive toys when one should save or invest the money for ones children is ridiculous.
The cheapest modern Ferrari is around 120k without counting the extra yearly fees one has to pay... if you know of a career that can get me that much, please let us know and no, drug dealing is not worth my life and life is too precious to study 8 years of medicine to start a doctoral job with heavy debts.
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What if the average Joe customer doesn't want to go to a forum for help because they don't know anything about wrenching on cars? Again, you have to sell the car completely refreshed, or no one would buy it at all. Even builders who use base platforms bring them back to new spec before selling them kitted, and that costs a hell of a lot of money. And you're just factoring the engine, what about the suspension, brakes, ENTIRE drive system, electrical, and interior refresh? That's maybe another 5-10k right there, on top of the 4k for just the engine.
So you are saying that the 300zx is basically a write off. That no "regular" Joe can just buy one and drive it used, no it has to meet your "new car" specs for it to be used on the road.
I dont have to sell the car completely refreshed, I could, but then my market would drop many folds because not everyone wants a new drive line or new leather interior.
A decent Zed can be had from Seattle for under 5k, add the kits cost and some vinyl, then you are looking at an 8k car that looks exotic. Surely one can have it be turbo and give it that fresh car smell for another 10k, but that all depends on what an individuals budget is and in this economy, I think people should get my stylish kit car rather then a new one that is going to put them in debt to only get boring the year after. Zed cars are fun cars and beautiful stock too, there's a reason why it has such a large following.
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And if this is expected to be a "sports car", then the chassis and body rigidity would have to be refreshed. And how is a 3600 pound, 230HP car from the 90's POSSIBLY able to hold a candle to today's sports cars?
A turbo Zed with around 5-8k worth of mods (with out labour?) is faster then all the Gallardo's out of the factory
When customers expect a "new" car they expect EVERYTHING to be new.
Build ONE car, and keep it for yourself. all this "planning" is getting WAY too far ahead of yourself, which is only gonna set you up for disappointment when you find out no one wants your product, regardless of how much work and planning you put into it. You're trying to sprint when you haven't even started to crawl.
Im going to finish one and flash it around town with a for sale sign on it, Im sure Ill get a good number of bidders.
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Originally Posted by CorneringArtist
And people won't shell out 25k for a perfect "looking" Ferrari because it's NOT a Ferrari on the inside. Just because it says "Ferrari", doesn't mean it IS ONE. It's called a "replica" for a reason, its "replicating" the car, but will NEVER BE THE ORIGINAL THING. The Ferrari engine itself costs more than $25k, and you can't replicate distinct exhaust notes. It would be like buying a Chinese knockoff iPod for 30 dollars, and saying I have an iPod just because it looks like one. Reality check: IT ISN'T.
Apparently the transmission alone is that much too... the DNA (mr2 donor) might have a lawnmower engine but it does look sexy... also one doesnt have to pretend its a Ferrari, take off the badges and have the car for what it is, a sexy, curvy, beautiful car.
Replica
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Also, just because your "future" Aston kit looks like an Aston does NOT take away from the fact the base car is USED. The car won't feel like an Aston, won't handle like an Aston, won't look like an Aston internally without ridiculous and expensive modification, won't sound like an Aston and won't be as fast as an Aston. tl;dr? it's NOT an Aston.
It will look like the One-77, that is just a miracle in itself, and you dont know the donor I have in store, it will be powerful to charge 30k starting.
I cant say enough about the aesthetics... it will be proportioned like the 77 too, with this exact profile... I know my cars.
For the interior, what do you think your cars dash is made of inside? Fiberglass molds can easily be fitted over the existing and skinned with plush leather.
The 77's internal layout is almost like the Zeds too by the way, I will also transfer the replica's molds over to the Zeds and sell that as an option as well hopefully.
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Originally Posted by CorneringArtist
By the way, why does that 360 replica sound like a 4-banger? Oh wait, it's not the same. Again, who wants to buy a gutless replica? If it's a replica, replicate the sound, or throw a small-block V8 in it. That replica has a 1ZZ for gods sake.
This car came out gutless from the factory, it probably has 150hp, is it worthless? I think its wonderful.
Just work harder and make more money and buy the real thing.
Only replicas that are "cool" are the original shelby cobra replicas, lamborghini countach replicas and lancia stratos replicas
Well sometimes you can work really really hard ur whole life and still won't be able to afford one of those exotic. Probably apply to majority of the people. The point is why pretend? U can get alot more respect in your 300zx than ur fake Aston.
If u do insist on owning a replica exotic u must also own a replica mansion (fiberglass it) and a replica trophy wife (make sure to mod it so she looks like megan fox) to complete the image. Posted via RS Mobile
Doesnt it break your heart to know that you'd never own your dream car?
Most cars are dream cars because of the way they look, but are too expensive to afford. Times have changed and here I am the replica peddler... I will make your dreams come true, well for the most part
I dont like tags or names to show people I have style, but a beautiful car is a beautiful car, who cares what people think.
"Ohh its a fake, I get more respect in my Civic"
Owning a replica is worse than owning a shitty car.
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Sonick is a genius. I won't go into detail what's so great about his post. But it's damn good!
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Well sometimes you can work really really hard ur whole life and still won't be able to afford one of those exotic. Probably apply to majority of the people. The point is why pretend? U can get alot more respect in your 300zx than ur fake Aston.
If u do insist on owning a replica exotic u must also own a replica mansion (fiberglass it) and a replica trophy wife (make sure to mod it so she looks like megan fox) to complete the image. Posted via RS Mobile
yup i agree with you. hell, i am one of those people who will never be able to afford a ferrari in my life. so i don't dream about owning one. and i do not have plans to own a replica version just to admire its looks.
like you said, WHY PRETEND? haha
if you can't afford it but you really want it, then too bad so sad.
just live with what you got and be thankful for it.
Also, removing the badge won't do anything. in the end, it's still a replicated design of an existing car that you CANNOT AFFORD.
admire it on a poster on your wall or buy a scale model.
don't make one and drive around town trying to impress clueless girls who will only get into your fake ferrari because they think you are loaded with money.
"Impress girls who think you are loaded"... I see nothing wrong with that
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what you have created is not beautiful, it is fuckin disgusting.
you clearly care what people think, or else you wouldn't spend hours replying to people defending yourself.
Im selling a product here, and Im defending the idea that people shouldnt buy new mediocre cars but instead should buy car designs they like, even if its used or replicated.
You clearly havent been reading this thread to understand this.
I love showing off that I have, atleast what ignorant people think to be is, a shitty car... And then it blows past them and loses em in the dust... Suck it.
Its hard enough to own a house without paying an extra 100,000 on top to the banks for the loan, but to buy expensive toys when one should save or invest the money for ones children is ridiculous.
The cheapest modern Ferrari is around 120k without counting the extra yearly fees one has to pay... if you know of a career that can get me that much, please let us know and no, drug dealing is not worth my life and life is too precious to study 8 years of medicine to start a doctoral job with heavy debts.
Why does being a doctor justify buying an exotic? Any high-paying job can do the same, just not doctors.
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So you are saying that the 300zx is basically a write off. That no "regular" Joe can just buy one and drive it used, no it has to meet your "new car" specs for it to be used on the road.
I dont have to sell the car completely refreshed, I could, but then my market would drop many folds because not everyone wants a new drive line or new leather interior.
A decent Zed can be had from Seattle for under 5k, add the kits cost and some vinyl, then you are looking at an 8k car that looks exotic. Surely one can have it be turbo and give it that fresh car smell for another 10k, but that all depends on what an individuals budget is and in this economy, I think people should get my stylish kit car rather then a new one that is going to put them in debt to only get boring the year after. Zed cars are fun cars and beautiful stock too, there's a reason why it has such a large following.
You forget that your base point is a non-turbo Z. And just because it "looks" exotic, doesn't mean it IS. Looks aren't everything.
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A turbo Zed with around 5-8k worth of mods (with out labour?) is faster then all the Gallardo's out of the factory
It's still not your non-turbo sample car, regardless of your "plans", no average consumer would know what to ask for if they wanted said mods when they visit their local Racer's Edge, after hearing that a guy named Dom Torreto was lighting up the streets with a 300ZX.
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Im going to finish one and flash it around town with a for sale sign on it, Im sure Ill get a good number of bidders.
You "think". What you think isn't always gonna happen, again, STOP thinking so far ahead of yourself.
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Apparently the transmission alone is that much too... the DNA (mr2 donor) might have a lawnmower engine but it does look sexy... also one doesnt have to pretend its a Ferrari, take off the badges and have the car for what it is, a sexy, curvy, beautiful car.
What's the point if it's just a replica? Again, what's the point of having a car that's supposed to be fast when it just has the looks? Again, looks are just ONE dimension of a car, and shouldn't be the only focus.
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It will look like the One-77, that is just a miracle in itself, and you dont know the donor I have in store, it will be powerful to charge 30k starting.
I cant say enough about the aesthetics... it will be proportioned like the 77 too, with this exact profile... I know my cars.
Really? You "know" your cars? You can rebuild an engine out of your garage, install coilovers with custom work as necessary, or even go as far as taking an entire car apart, laying every part on the ground, and putting it back together?
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For the interior, what do you think your cars dash is made of inside? Fiberglass molds can easily be fitted over the existing and skinned with plush leather.
The 77's internal layout is almost like the Zeds too by the way, I will also transfer the replica's molds over to the Zeds and sell that as an option as well hopefully.
"Hopefully"? Again, you're getting so far ahead of yourself. You're planning your NEXT replica when you don't even have your first one made yet. Really, you're setting yourself up for disaster with THIS much forward planning.
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This car came out gutless from the factory, it probably has 150hp, is it worthless? I think its wonderful.
How many years ago did that car come out again? Technology was a completely different ball game back then. It was fast for the era. Once again, your primary focus was the looks of the car, yes it's sleek, but you completely ignored that the car was from a totally different generation performance-wise. Stop putting so much focus on the looks of a car, you would probably have had better feedback if you included planned engine modifications, that way the carpet would match the drapes as it were.
For the $25k of that Ferrari replica, I could get my dream car, the JZX100 Toyota Chaser for $10k, drop 7 bringing it up to a streetable 600HP, and have 8 left over to pay for shit that goes wrong. But alas, at this point in my life, I can't afford that yet, and I realize that. However, these plans are possible with money.
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To CorneringArtist
My donor cars (77 replica as well) will have cheap horsepower options per-say, no need for a fancy v12 that sounds incredible, one can still feel the G forces with bolt on parts and the help of a mechanic.
"per-say". Cost is x and you still have no idea how you're going to source these performance parts, and again, you're getting ahead of yourself. And again, no point in feeling the g-forces if it's not the actual engine from the real thing.
It's not the same as the real thing regardless of badging. You can delete the badging, but it's still not the real thing.
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Ill keep my replica, you keep your 2011.
