Gave my 300zx a nose job

[sonick]

[ruthless]

Originally Posted by Arash

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and Rev Scene doesnt want to see my car, thus no one filled the list. The ban list filled up pretty quickly, but not one to see my crappy design.

Admittance is the first step to recovery

[Arash]

Originally Posted by ruthless

Admittance is the first step to recovery

I was quoting Greenstoner's words

New concept car with some of my cars characteristics.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/25/r...ub-with-bmw-v/

Sonick post pictures of your car so that I may make fun of it.

[Arash]

Part of my problem with this forum is the lack of mods, Eclipse edit and remove your comment kindly or I will message the mods. I have revealed my self as to who I am and dont like to be personally attacked. Thank you.

edit- Shocker also remove your quote, thanks.

[CorneringArtist]

Then why did you dish it out to me and others? If you don't like to be personally attacked, don't deal it out in the first place.

[Arash]

CorneringArtist I want you to bring up the posts that you say I made assumptions on you. They were more questions then assumptions.

[Greenstoner]

personal attack is gonna send this thread to FC or locked...

not a good idea guys

[Arash]

I see a mod online, hopefully you get some kind of vacation from RS

Berzerker is online now
Ricer Mod

[CorneringArtist]

Originally Posted by Arash

CorneringArtist I want you to bring up the posts that you say I made assumptions on you. They were more questions then assumptions.

Okay so you have no qualms about jumping into a friends fake Lambo and driving around but paying and owning one is not your slice of cake... understood.

-Assumption

Todays youth and the slang words they use... you want to have a part time cruiser? and I dont want to know what a shit box is, but Im sure CorneringArtist doesnt want any of it.

-Assumption and personal attack

So you feel you have too much pride to be in a fake looking and branded car... or you dont have the balls to not care ... Im sure its not just the bang for the performance buck.

-Assumption and personal attack

Done. You asked just as many questions as you did making assumptions about me, and about consumers in general.

[Arash]

Okay so you have no qualms about jumping into a friends fake Lambo and driving around but paying and owning one is not your slice of cake... understood.
You were basically saying you wouldnt want a replica because they are fake... and for the first part you said dont make assumptions which in post 531 I added a question mark.
so you have no qualms about jumping into a friends fake Lambo and driving around ?



Todays youth and the slang words they use... you want to have a part time cruiser? and I dont want to know what a shit box is, but Im sure CorneringArtist doesnt want any of it.

I made this joke to the person who posted after your post
And I say Im sure you dont want any part of it, a shit box, I made one assumption here and if you cant take me joking with other members I will not make jokes when your around in the future


So you feel you have too much pride to be in a fake looking and branded car... or you dont have the balls to not care ... Im sure its not just the bang for the performance buck.
Here I assume that your problem with replicas is not just the performance.
Questioning your pride to ride in a replica or not caring what people think are two contradicting positions, how is it possible that I assume two opposing views on you. These in a sense are questions. If we ever debate over something, I will make sure to put question marks after my phrases.

[sonick]

Originally Posted by Arash

Sonick post pictures of your car so that I may make fun of it.

Your tastes and opinions on car design are worthless.

[nack]

penis

[Arash]

Originally Posted by sonick

Your tastes and opinions on car design are worthless.

[sonick]

I wish my E30 were as nice as that M3.

[CorneringArtist]

Originally Posted by Arash

Okay so you have no qualms about jumping into a friends fake Lambo and driving around but paying and owning one is not your slice of cake... understood.
You were basically saying you wouldnt want a replica because they are fake... and for the first part you said dont make assumptions which in post 531 I added a question mark.
so you have no qualms about jumping into a friends fake Lambo and driving around ?



Todays youth and the slang words they use... you want to have a part time cruiser? and I dont want to know what a shit box is, but Im sure CorneringArtist doesnt want any of it.

I made this joke to the person who posted after your post
And I say Im sure you dont want any part of it, a shit box, I made one assumption here and if you cant take me joking with other members I will not make jokes when your around in the future


So you feel you have too much pride to be in a fake looking and branded car... or you dont have the balls to not care ... Im sure its not just the bang for the performance buck.
Here I assume that your problem with replicas is not just the performance.
Questioning your pride to ride in a replica or not caring what people think are two contradicting positions, how is it possible that I assume two opposing views on you. These in a sense are questions. If we ever debate over something, I will make sure to put question marks after my phrases.

1. I already assumed it was a question, and I answered it as such. Adding the question mark doesn't matter after the fact. you STILL pulled that statement out of nothing.

2. If it's a joke at my expense, it's a personal insult; why should I be the target of a joke that makes no bearing with me whatsoever? You had other members to choose from, and you picked me. Saying that you did not make assumptions is still bullshit because you made an assumption that I didn't want a shitbox, even if it's a joke. Clearly, you're the joke here.

3. Way to attack me ad hominem, Google it if you don't know what that means. By implying that I'm ignorant because I interpret your statements as a question, you are completely ignoring what I am trying to say and dismissing my ability to argue. You're missing the point AGAIN, I quoted that you assumed I have a performance issue with replicas, when your rebuttal is me riding in it. In addition, my choice to ride in a replica HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PRIDE OR ANYONE ELSE. In that one statement you assumed four things about me. One, you assume I have too much pride to ride in a replica, which has nothing to do with whether or not I want to ride in a replica. Two, you assume that I care too much to be in a replica. I already stated that I didn't want to be in a replica because it is fake, not because I care too much to be in one. Three, you assume that I have more issues with a replica than just performance, just by saying "I'm sure", you're already assuming something. Four, by saying you assume that I have a performance problem with replicas, you've already straight up assumed. No need to explain that.

You don't even know who I am, yet you pass off all your arguments as if you know the consumer. In addition, you attempt to make people trying to make a point come off as being wrong or completely ignorant about what you're trying to do by either changing the point of their argument (aka straw man arguments) or missing the point completely. By dismissing RevScene as a group of possible customers, you've already assumed that we are not qualified to judge your car, in addition to the other communities that have rejected your design. Keep in mind that we, the consumer are buying the car, not you.

[Arash]

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

1. I already assumed it was a question, and I answered it as such. Adding the question mark doesn't matter after the fact. you STILL pulled that statement out of nothing.

I was pulling statement trying to find reasoning other then, its fake. You never answered the questions and I dont want to know anymore from our discussion.

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

2. If it's a joke at my expense, it's a personal insult; why should I be the target of a joke that makes no bearing with me whatsoever? You had other members to choose from, and you picked me. Saying that you did not make assumptions is still bullshit because you made an assumption that I didn't want a shitbox, even if it's a joke. Clearly, you're the joke here.

The shit box comment was made after your post, and I commented after that. Had it been made after Mel Gibsons comment, I would have made the same joke. I dont see how its at your expense unless you care for it in what I deem an undesirable thing.

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

3. Way to attack me ad hominem, Google it if you don't know what that means. By implying that I'm ignorant because I interpret your statements as a question, you are completely ignoring what I am trying to say and dismissing my ability to argue. You're missing the point AGAIN, I quoted that you assumed I have a performance, when your rebuttal is me riding in it. In addition, my choice to ride in a replica HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PRIDE OR ANYONE ELSE. In that one statement you assumed four things about me.

One, you assume I have too much pride to ride in a replica, which has nothing to do with whether or not I want to ride in a replica.

This is a question not an assumption.
so you have no qualms about jumping into a friends fake Lambo and driving around ?
You say the problem with replicas is that its fake, so I questioned if you would ride in one.

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

Two, you assume that I care too much to be in a replica. I already stated that I didn't want to be in a replica because it is fake, not because I care too much to be in one.

No I questioned it
Okay so you have no qualms about jumping into a friends fake Lambo?

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

Three, you assume that I have more issues with a replica than just performance, just by saying "I'm sure", you're already assuming something.

Again you said your problem with replicas is that its fake, is there a thing as fake performance? A replica does 0-100km in 4 seconds, is that a fake performing car? I dont think so. If you have other reasoning's to call the performance of a replica fake, then you should have been more specific to start with when just saying, its fake.

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

Four, by saying you assume that I have a performance problem with replicas, you've already straight up assumed. No need to explain that.

Prior to my statement, you were showcasing how much performance you would get for the same money as a replica like the mr2 which I included as a donor. So I very well assumed that you not wanting a fake, isnt just to do with the fact that you can get more performance out a none replica. See how your assumptions are prolonging my one post? Yes I put a purl on that because you have taken my statements and cut them into assumptions where for the most part, they are questions.

So you feel you have too much pride to be in a fake looking and branded car... or you dont have the balls to not care ... Im sure its not just the bang for the performance buck.

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

You don't even know who I am, yet you pass off all your arguments as if you know the consumer. In addition, you attempt to make people trying to make a point come off as being wrong or completely ignorant about what you're trying to do by either changing the point of their argument or missing the point completely. By dismissing RevScene as a group of possible customers, you've already assumed that we are not qualified to judge your car, in addition to the other communities that have rejected your design. Keep in mind that we, the consumer are buying the car, not you.

Im a consumer of my own product, I am right to what ever I believe about replicas. I like to make assumptions. I like to market my product to my own advantage.
I try to brainwash consumer on forums to buy my product.

Lots of things are said on internet forums, debating internet etiquette and formalities I would think belong on a lawyers forum, not a car one.

[CorneringArtist]

Originally Posted by Arash

I was pulling statement trying to find reasoning other then, its fake. You never answered the questions and I dont want to know anymore from our discussion.

I answered the question, and then you pulled shit out of your ass. If you didn't want to know more from the discussion, then why bring it up again? Way to completely misconstrue what I was trying to say.

The shit box comment was made after your post, and I commented after that. Had it been made after Mel Gibsons comment, I would have made the same joke. I dont see how its at your expense unless you care for it in what I deem an undesirable thing.

Why the fuck are you saying Mel Gibson when it was jivan6 that made that post about the PT? Again, pulling shit out of you ass. Of course it's at my expense, because you used me in it. Using me in a joke is obviously at my expense. Do you not understand that if you are the butt of a joke, it is at YOUR expense?

No I questioned it
Okay so you have no qualms about jumping into a friends fake Lambo?

You changed this after the fact. Once again, I already answered it as if it were a question already. So questioning it, doesn't make much of a difference.

Again you said your problem with replicas is that its fake, is there a thing as fake performance? A replica does 0-100km in 4 seconds, is that a fake performing car? I dont think so. If you have other reasoning's to call the performance of a replica fake, then you should have been more specific to start with when just saying, its fake.

This isn't what we're arguing here at the moment. Stop trying to change the argument. (Just so you know, I didn't say anything about fake performance, the fact of the matter still stands, the car is FAKE.)

Prior to my statement, you were showcasing how much performance you would get for the same money as a replica like the mr2 which I included as a donor. So I very well assumed that you not wanting a fake, isnt just to do with the fact that you can get more performance out a none replica. See how your assumptions are prolonging my one post? Yes I put a purl on that because you have taken my statements and cut them into assumptions where for the most part, they are questions.

This is a question not an assumption.

so you have no qualms about jumping into a friends fake Lambo and driving around ?
You say the problem with replicas is that its fake, so I questioned if you would ride in one.

Every time you say "I think" it is an assumption. I'm not cutting them, stop trying to make me look like I'm misconstruing your points, I'm reading them as I see it. I'm not extending one post, you made 4 assumptions in 1 sentence. Way to miss the point again. you're bringing in an irrelevant point that isn't a part of this argument. What I stated in #3 was what you stated in blue above, not that question. You questioned my pride and whether or not I care if other people see me in it, NOT that question you noted above. Why the fuck are you saying that they are "in effect, questions" when they are statements. You can't imply a question, they either are or they aren't. Too late to change them now. Quit fucking trying to bring in questions that aren't part of what is being discussed. That question you noted about jumping into a lambo just now has no bearing on your assumptions about my pride, because once again, my pride has no effect on whether or not I want to be in a replica.

So you feel you have too much pride to be in a fake looking and branded car... or you dont have the balls to not care ... Im sure its not just the bang for the performance buck.

Im a consumer of my own product, I am right to what ever I believe about replicas. I like to make assumptions. I like to market my product to my own advantage.
I try to brainwash consumer on forums to buy my product.

I didn't question your beliefs on replicas. So don't drag that bullshit in here. Again, you are trying to switch the subject in your favor. You make a product to appeal to the consumer not the creator. Marketing the product to your advantage doesn't help you in the least.

Lots of things are said on internet forums, debating internet etiquette and formalities I would think belong on a lawyers forum, not a car one.

Another attempted subject change. I'm not debating etiquette, nor formalities. What I'm debating here is whether or not you were making assumptions. Again, for the last time, Stop trying to change the subject.Nothing about etiquette was argued-AT ALL. Basic etiquette applies to most of this forum besides fight club anyways.

Stop trying to manipulate the argument into your favour by bringing in irrelevant points. That is both flawed arguing and flawed logic. I'm simply counter arguing what you try to manipulate because what you say is different from every single thing you have said before. You are changing both the subject and the argument that was mentioned previously, which attempts to make the previous argument a moot point, when I am presenting both valid and relevant points about what you said previously.

[PuYang]

[Arash]

Wow nice car in that picture man!

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

I answered the question, and then you pulled shit out of your ass. If you didn't want to know more from the discussion, then why bring it up again? Way to completely misconstrue what I was trying to say.

I brought it up because you brought it up again saying that when I assumed, they were personal attacks.

show me where you answered those questions, or assumptions.

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

Why the fuck are you saying Mel Gibson when it was jivan6 that made that post about the PT? Again, pulling shit out of you ass. Of course it's at my expense, because you used me in it. Using me in a joke is obviously at my expense. Do you not understand that if you are the butt of a joke, it is at YOUR expense?

Okay you were a victim of circumstance, but it wasnt personal I could have said "I dont think anyone wants a shit box" instead of using your name in the sentence, and I apologize

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

Every time you say "I think" it is an assumption. I'm not cutting them, stop trying to make me look like I'm misconstruing your points, I'm reading them as I see it. I'm not extending one post, you made 4 assumptions in 1 sentence. Way to miss the point again. you're bringing in an irrelevant point that isn't a part of this argument.

......

What I stated in #3 was what you stated in blue above, not that question. You questioned my pride and whether or not I care if other people see me in it, NOT that question you noted above. Why the fuck are you saying that they are "in effect, questions" when they are statements. You can't imply a question, they either are or they aren't. Too late to change them now. Quit fucking trying to bring in questions that aren't part of what is being discussed. That question you noted about jumping into a lambo just now has no bearing on your assumptions about my pride, because once again, my pride has no effect on whether or not I want to be in a replica.

My reply wasnt to your #3, it was to the sentence after.

Here is a new question to make my point.
Do feel you have too much pride to be in a replica?

A police officer who deals with counter fit good being sold as brand name items at malls (as a job) might feel too proud to be seen or just indulge himself inside a replica of an automobile, because that replica is intellectual property of said replica company. An artist designed that replica, and making a clone without his/her permission or paying royalties, is therefore wrong. So that office might be too proud, seeing that he duty is against counter fits, to ride or own such replicas.
Now because I asked you if you'd be too proud to ride in one? or care too much to be seen in a fake? you have taken this statement as a personal attack.
How about I take my post back, in fact I can edit it out for you, do you want me to do that?

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

I didn't question your beliefs on replicas. So don't drag that bullshit in here. Again, you are trying to switch the subject in your favor. You make a product to appeal to the consumer not the creator. Marketing the product to your advantage doesn't help you in the least.

Yes you didnt question it but I sometimes like to talk a lot when I post.

Originally Posted by CorneringArtist

Another attempted subject change. I'm not debating etiquette, nor formalities. What I'm debating here is whether or not you were making assumptions. Again, for the last time, Stop trying to change the subject.Nothing about etiquette was argued-AT ALL. Basic etiquette applies to most of this forum besides fight club anyways.

Stop trying to manipulate the argument into your favour by bringing in irrelevant points. That is both flawed arguing and flawed logic. I'm simply counter arguing what you try to manipulate because what you say is different from every single thing you have said before. You are changing both the subject and the argument that was mentioned previously, which attempts to make the previous argument a moot point, when I am presenting both valid and relevant points about what you said previously.

Im a free spirit, I like to jump on other subjects and manipulate arguments to my favor if I can. Does that make me an asshole? perhaps

[CorneringArtist]

Again, another attempt to change the subject, and trying it doesn't help you in the least bit. Manipulating an argument into your favor basically means you want the easy way out when you can't properly defend your premise. Maybe you should to learn to argue a bit better because changing the subject is somewhat naive.

Too late to apologize for your choice of words after the fact, and trying to put up a new question is pointless as trying to steer the argument back to an old point is useless. By the way, what does you liking to talk a lot when you post have to do with anything?

[nack]

^ you are my idol

[Arash]

Talking a lot... its to do with making a product appeal to me and marketing the product to my advantage.

[rJZx]

Arash just post pictures of what you have and then you will have some credibility... depends on your work

[1exotic]

[Arash]

Funny stuff 1exotic, nothing offensive but funny

Originally Posted by ilmatic

Arash just post pictures of what you have and then you will have some credibility... depends on your work

Rightly so when that list fills up.