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Old 10-07-2010, 11:03 PM   #126
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http://www.theprovince.com/story_pri...73630&sponsor=

Gov't seizes $235,000 Ferrari and BMW after drivers caught racing in North Van


By Staff Reporter, The Province November 23, 2010 1:43 PM


They're sexy, sleek and can burn up the road above and beyond the speed limit – and the drivers of a $235,000 Ferrari Scuderia and a BMW M6 have both lost their dream machines thanks to B.C.'s beefed up civil forfeiture laws.

The drivers were busted doing about 200 km/h along North Vancouver's Mount Seymour Parkway in September — with the Ferrari narrowly missing a mother walking with her children.

After being stopped by North Vancouver RCMP, both drivers were given immediate 15-day driving bans.

Whether RCMP and the Civil Forfeiture Office seize vehicles depends on specific criteria, such as the speed the vehicles were travelling, the regard for the safety of others, and whether there is potential for catastrophic injury or death. This road race met the criteria and the vehicles were impounded.

"When a vehicle has killed or injured someone, it's too late. Our laws now work to take vehicles away from reckless drivers before they hurt someone because they are demonstrating no regard for the safety of themselves or others on our roads," said Solicitor General Rich Coleman.

Of the Ferrari sale proceeds, 50 per cent will go to a relative of the driver who was part owner but was not involved in the incident. The province will receive 20 per cent and the driver, 30 per cent. Proceeds from the BMW sale will go first to cover the costs of storage and disposal, and repaying a bank debt on the vehicle. Out of the remaining proceeds, 30 per cent will go to the province and 70 per cent to the driver. From the total proceeds from both vehicles, the province will receive an estimated $100,000.

The province has an agreement in place to sell the Ferrari to a local dealership at a set price of $235,000, but the amount received for the BMW will depend upon an auction. The BMW will be auctioned on the province's BC Auction website at www.bcauction.ca.

To date, cash and assets valued at more than $13 million have been forfeited to the province, including $4.4 million since April 1, 2010.
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So they slipped in the ability to SEIZE vehicles along with the new impoundment punishments???

What a fucking steamy pile of bullshit.
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So they slipped in the ability to SEIZE vehicles along with the new impoundment punishments???

What a fucking steamy pile of bullshit.
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I'm glad they're going down in flames right now, I really really am.
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So they slipped in the ability to SEIZE vehicles along with the new impoundment punishments???

What a fucking steamy pile of bullshit.

No way man -- I totally disagree with you. They got off lucky!

What if they had crashed and/or caused a fatality? At the speeds these asshats were driving -- they very likely could have.

I applaud the seizure of these cars -- fuck those guys. The only way they are going to listen (i.e. rich spoiled ass fucks) is if you hit em where it hurts which is in the wallet.

This also will prevent future douchebags from using public roads as their personal racetrack.
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Of the Ferrari sale proceeds, 50 per cent will go to a relative of the driver who was part owner but was not involved in the incident. The province will receive 20 per cent and the driver, 30 per cent.
So in another words, the driver got fined $47,000. And rest of the money goes back to him and his "relative"....to buy a brand new Ferrari
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$235k is an insane bargain for the scuderia..
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So they slipped in the ability to SEIZE vehicles along with the new impoundment punishments???

What a fucking steamy pile of bullshit.
I couldn't agree with you more,the government has a habit of making the rules as they go along without telling anyone.

The people of Canada lose our democracy little by little each time the government does stuff like this.The Canadian government might as well go into a dictatorship type of ruling for the people.
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Ferrari and BMW Seized Due To Street Racing
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A Ferrari and a BMW with a combined value of $310,000 have been forfeited thanks to the combined efforts of the RCMP’s Federal Integrated Proceeds of Crime Unit (IPOC) and the BC Civil Forfeiture Office.
IPOC’s Asset Forfeiture Unit has been working on this file since September 25th, 2010. That was the day North Vancouver RCMP stopped two 31-year-old men who were racing on Mount Seymour Road. A 2008 Ferrari Scuderia (valued at $235,000) was seen at speeds reaching 200 km/h, and a BMW M6 (valued at $75,000 ) was close behind. One pedestrian said she was nearly hit while walking with her children. At the time they were stopped, both drivers were ticketed for excessive speeding and driving without due care and attention. They were also issued 15-day driver’s license suspensions and had their cars impounded for seven days.

Please click here for the original North Vancouver RCMP news release on this incident.

The Integrated Proceeds Of Crime Section recommended the BC Civil Forfeiture Office assess the case. It was found to be suitable for civil prosecution under the BC Civil Forfeiture Act for the following reasons:

1. The vehicles were by definition "street racing";
2. The speeds were estimated at 200 km/h on roads designed and signposted for 60 km/h;
3. The disregard by both drivers for the motoring public;
4. The near miss of three pedestrians;
5. The potential for catastrophic injury or death.
“I don’t think anyone in their right mind would disagree with the notion that this kind of driving is absolutely unacceptable. If something had happened, if one of the drivers had lost control and left the roadway or struck another vehicle, at almost 200 km/h, without question someone would have died,” said Corporal Peter DeVries, North Vancouver Media Relations Officer.

Constable Michael McLaughlin, the Federal IPOC Media Relations Officer, adds that “when valuable assets like cars, houses, or cash are used to commit crimes and put other people at risk, the Federal RCMP will explore every option to ensure justice under the law. The public also expects that offenders will not be allowed to keep the profits of crime. The BC Civil Forfeiture Act gives us options that go beyond criminal prosecution.”

The Federal RCMP’s IPOC and the BC Civil Forfeiture Office are committed to maintaining safe communities, and in this case, safe roads. The BC Civil Forfeiture Office assesses RCMP investigations referred by IPOC, and where appropriate, forfeiture is requested in BC Supreme Court for property that is either an instrument and or proceed of unlawful activity.
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so these cars are going to be police auctioned in the future..??
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That's a load of bullshit. Fine and jail them all you want but seizing property like that is complete bullshit. I wonder what these guy's lawyers will be saying.
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WAIT A MINUTE, let me get this straight

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS PIECE OF FUCKING BULLSHIT ACT


SO they were speeding yada yada yada, they get fined along with all the other bullshit. THey got their license suspended 15 days big deal, they got their vehicles towed away while stored in a lot for 2 weeks. Ok....now please tell me im reading this right. NOw the goverment has right to fucking sell their cars and keep the money?

DId i read it correctly? WHEN THE FUCK DID THIS HOMO MOTHERFUCKING RULE KICK IN

what kind of fucking bullshit is this, last time i check they only impound you with all the other fucking jazz. BUT selling your property just brings this bullshit to a whole new different level


FUCK THIS

$1000 + fine just became a ......$250g loss? am i reading this shit correctly? because i honestly dont beieve what im reading right now

wonna sell their houses too? how about seize their wife while they are at it
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im more confused on the fact that they are selling their cars, and then giving parts of the money back to them.

its like saying "hey im gonna forcefully sell your property, but im super nice, so heres part of that back. and then go buy yourself another fast car".

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"Of the Ferrari sale proceeds, 50 per cent will go to a relative of the driver who was part owner but was not involved in the incident."

if i was that other half owner who was completely innocent. id be fucking pissed my ferrari was just sold. yay, 50% back, thanks?
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Moral of the story:

If you're going to speed, do it in someone else's car.
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its their fucking property, since when does the faggot goverment has the power to force the owners to sell their car ????


Seriously impounding and bullshit tickets is one thing, but this?????

DId any of us even heard this bs? NOPE, so where did the goverment pull such a bs move out of their ass is what piss me off
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Wonder what auction these will be sold off at? Would love to watch to see what they sell for
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here is what i just found

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ferrari is going to a dealership.

"The province has an agreement in place to sell the Ferrari to a local dealership at a set price of $235,000, but the amount received for the BMW will depend upon an auction. The BMW will be auctioned on the province's BC Auction website at www.bcauction.ca."
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if i was that other half owner who was completely innocent. id be fucking pissed my ferrari was just sold. yay, 50% back, thanks?
I also wonder how they can force a penalty on an innocent person.

No matter how you slice it, the "50%" owner just got penalized, because that 50% will not get him 50% of another F430 Scuderia.
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Love how the government gets a huge chunk of the sales. So a driver of a Ferrari loses way more than lets say you topping out your moms ford windstar.
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ferrari is going to a dealership.

"The province has an agreement in place to sell the Ferrari to a local dealership at a set price of $235,000, but the amount received for the BMW will depend upon an auction. The BMW will be auctioned on the province's BC Auction website at www.bcauction.ca."
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