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10-21-2010, 12:28 PM
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10-21-2010, 03:26 PM
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10-21-2010, 03:53 PM
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As much as I love Formula 1, it pisses me off that they're going backwards in intentionally slowing the cars down.
The testing bans and engine freezes are so fucking stupid. I started watching F1 because it was all about who had the most technologically advanced car. To me it seems they're starting to become Nascar with their development rules.
When they said they were thinking of homologating engines altogether I just about shit myself.
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10-21-2010, 03:58 PM
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I don't follow F1 much, but is it a safety reason why they are limiting cars (e.g. like the Whistler bobsled track being too fast)? Or is it a way to even up the playing field?
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10-21-2010, 04:00 PM
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Yep I agree if the drivers want to go as fast as they can... fucking let them.
It would be interesting to see a F1 team build a car specifically with the intention of going as fast as possible and throw the rulebook out the window. I would love to see how fast they could actually get around a track if they weren't held back.
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10-21-2010, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sonick I don't follow F1 much, but is it a safety reason why they are limiting cars (e.g. like the Whistler bobsled track being too fast)? Or is it a way to even up the playing field? | It's a bit of both really. They are actually really concerned about Cost Cutting now though.
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10-21-2010, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sonick I don't follow F1 much, but is it a safety reason why they are limiting cars (e.g. like the Whistler bobsled track being too fast)? Or is it a way to even up the playing field? | Both.
They can kiss my ass with their "safety reasons" though.
Cars are 100x safer these days than they ever were before. They didn't have things like form fitted seats, HANS devices, way back when cars were making 1000+ horsepower
AND These guys are RACING drivers. They choose to do their job, they know the risks when they get into the cockpit.
I want to see an extreme racing league. No power limits, no aerodynamics limits. The fastest car and the best driver with the biggest balls wins.
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10-21-2010, 04:30 PM
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Grand Turismo attempted to answer the question when they built the theoretical machine called the X1. Its going to featured in the game whenever its going to come out. But they say Sebastian Vettel managed 20 seconds faster than a conventional Formula machine of today in the same track.
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10-21-2010, 04:37 PM
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10-22-2010, 10:22 AM
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With the current F1 cars approaching 5g braking force and peaks of 4g in cornering I think they are getting close to the limits of what the human body can achieve. Every F1 driver is basically a triathlete these days and they need to be. I personally people put FAR too much emphasis on the engine specs and how much monster power they make. With the forces from the engine being the lowest impact and modern day e-difs, putting the power down is the easier exercises for an F1 driver.
Just think about the F-duct this year and how it is used. Watch their hands as they come onto the straight, right to the duct. They don't need to fight the car or control slides ect. Even though the engines have the highest output these days since the V12's it just isn't a concern.
A smaller engine with lower power actually seems like a good thing for racing F1 in my opinion because every mistake is exaggerated. Just my $0.02
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10-22-2010, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sonick V12 and I6 are the only two standard engines that have perfect primary and secondary harmonic balance -- i.e., the motions withstood by the engine and the crank, as well as the high order derivatives of those motions, are balanced.
On the other hand, An I4 has the greatest harmonic imbalance, and often require balance shafts and other tricks to keep from shaking the engine to pieces. | lmao that would explain why my motor shakes the cabin so hard at 9000RPM =D
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Originally Posted by RabidRat lmao that would explain why my motor shakes the cabin so hard at 9000RPM =D | no, thats vtec
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10-22-2010, 12:12 PM
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HP making technology is limited for a few reasons the most important of which is safety, not just for the drivers but also the spectators. Secondly not all teams have multi million dollar budgets (hard to believe) so it evens the playing field so not only the uber rich end up on the podium every race but the measly rich can too.
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10-22-2010, 02:51 PM
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I dont think $$ really buys you success in F1 though, look at toyota
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10-23-2010, 11:26 AM
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Every team has massive budgets. Numbers from '08 but you get the idea... http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/2...-budget-4456m/
So $ is necessary, but not sufficient 
Power would decrease lap times, but rich is right - in terms of lap times, cars these days are as fast, if not faster, than the V10s. What has been lost in power (straight line) has been made up for in aero (cornering). Probably also helped by the return of slicks, but...
Lap record at Monza is from 2004 - Barrichello at 1:21.046
This year, Alonso's pole was at 1:21.962
Monza is THE power track... so the V10s are/were still faster.
Previous lap record at Monaco was also from 2004 - Schumacher at 1:14.439
This year, Webber poled at 1:13.826
Monaco is THE aero/mechanical grip/balls track.
Previous lap record at Catalunya was from 08 - Raikkonen in a V8, with grooved tires, at 1:21.670
Lap record at Catalunya (Spain) was broken this year at 1:19.995. In fact, the top 9 qualifiers ALL broke Raikkonen's old record.
Catalunya is an aero track that requires more power than Monaco.
None of these tracks has changed since the V10 era.
The best way to slow cars down is to reduce cornering speeds. The problem is that if this is done too severely, F1 cars could be slower than other series...
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10-24-2010, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Berzerker Yep I agree if the drivers want to go as fast as they can... fucking let them.
It would be interesting to see a F1 team build a car specifically with the intention of going as fast as possible and throw the rulebook out the window. I would love to see how fast they could actually get around a track if they weren't held back.
Berz out. | Unfortunately, your perverse pleasure of "watching how fast they could get around a track" doesn't outweigh the increased risk to the driver's life.
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I just haven't been watching F1 these past few years. Before the strict spending and engine limits, Ferrari was constantly winning.... and that was boring. Now that it's a more even playing field, technology is held back... which is also boring.
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Originally Posted by Berzerker It would be interesting to see a F1 team build a car specifically with the intention of going as fast as possible and throw the rulebook out the window. I would love to see how fast they could actually get around a track if they weren't held back. | yeah, ever since hearing about those crazy 1.5L engines 10years ago, I've wanted to see them put those 1000+hp beasts into a current F1 car chassis. see what kind of monster that would produce!
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10-25-2010, 12:22 PM
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Very VERY well said Blinky!
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