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Old 01-15-2020, 10:51 AM   #7576
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Where the fuck are all the snow plows today?

I'm lucky I get to work from home but I see people outside my place just skidding all over the place because the roads aren't cleared yet.
Took until 10am till I saw a plow working along Canada way at Willingdon
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Old 01-15-2020, 10:56 AM   #7577
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Took until 10am till I saw a plow working along Canada way at Willingdon
Shouldn't be taking that long. That's a priority street and the plow on that route does a continuous loop from one end to the other except for when he needs to refill his salt bin.
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I got a Mini Cooper S with snow tires as my demo this week and I am pleasantly surprised at how good it is in the snow. Didn't get stuck once on my way to work. I just need to keep clear of the really really deep snow so that it doesn't become a snow plow with its relatively low clearance.
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people with no snow tires really need to get off the road, these conditions even with snow tires are dicey

4x4 with Duratracs ftw though
Meh, I don't have legit snow tires, snow and ice with 4x4 working fine for me.

You obviously have to drive for road conditions but it's not that bad if you take your time. In the 90's I'd drive in snow like this with my 5.0L Mustang and with my RX7 rocking all seasons, now that was dicey.
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I got a Mini Cooper S with snow tires as my demo this week and I am pleasantly surprised at how good it is in the snow. Didn't get stuck once on my way to work. I just need to keep clear of the really really deep snow so that it doesn't become a snow plow with its relatively low clearance.
Interesting, all things being equal ie. FWD vs. FWD and say both cars have snows on, what makes a particular car 'better' in snow? I heard people describe it as such but what other factors go into a FWD car that makes it particularly good on snow? Weight distribution?
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My FX4 with K02s is doing well, kinda shitty if I'm in 2WD and have to start on any sort of incline though
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Interesting, all things being equal ie. FWD vs. FWD and say both cars have snows on, what makes a particular car 'better' in snow? I heard people describe it as such but what other factors go into a FWD car that makes it particularly good on snow? Weight distribution?
More weight over the drive wheels, the way the engine delivers power (turbo cars are actually not great at this as there's a jolt of power down low - smoother the better), the wheelbase length (longer = smoother and stabler) and the way the traction control/ESP is set up.
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My FX4 with K02s is doing well, kinda shitty if I'm in 2WD and have to start on any sort of incline though
Dad's got brand new studded Cooper Discoverer M+S on his F150 - still get a bit of wheelspin when starting at stoplights in 2HI.
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This is an obvious tip for most but if you have a truck fill the box up with snow, that added weight over the rear wheels is helpful.
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Meh. You can't depend on transit or the city when it snows. So people with all season tires that think the city will have the roads nice and salted so they can go on their marry way will get a wake up call. If you are prepared it won't be an issue. If this is the city response to snow, can't imagine a natural disaster like a mega earthquake.
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More weight over the drive wheels, the way the engine delivers power (turbo cars are actually not great at this as there's a jolt of power down low - smoother the better), the wheelbase length (longer = smoother and stabler) and the way the traction control/ESP is set up.
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Interesting, all things being equal ie. FWD vs. FWD and say both cars have snows on, what makes a particular car 'better' in snow? I heard people describe it as such but what other factors go into a FWD car that makes it particularly good on snow? Weight distribution?
Yea, I tried it in Sport mode and the throttle response is very good for dry conditions but not so good for snow conditions, ie, it's too sensitive and the dual clutch transmission engages too quickly. Normal drive mode and Eco mode are much better with this car in snow like this. Also I was driving with traction control off but dynamic stability control on. It does spin its wheels a bit when setting off from a stop but it still gets going even on slight inclines.
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Meh. You can't depend on transit or the city when it snows. So people with all season tires that think the city will have the roads nice and salted so they can go on their marry way will get a wake up call. If you are prepared it won't be an issue. If this is the city response to snow, can't imagine a natural disaster like a mega earthquake.
May not seem like it but the cities are plowing and salting 24/7.

Think of how many streets are in Vancouver or any city for that matter and compare it to how many trucks/employees there are. If it doesn't directly benefit someone it may seem like they're doing nothing and they call them every name in the book, but they are working 24/7.

Believe it or not, the city workers deserve a bit of credit.


I'll add another comment on this - IF anyone may be wondering why a side street that's been plowed in the past hasn't been plowed this time around, look where cars are parked. If the plow can't make it down the street without doing damage to cars because they've parked to far away from the curb due to shoveling their sidewalks and dumping the snow on the road, they will not go down the street. It's not worth damaging 20 cars to satisfy 1 person.

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Meh. You can't depend on transit or the city when it snows. So people with all season tires that think the city will have the roads nice and salted so they can go on their marry way will get a wake up call. If you are prepared it won't be an issue. If this is the city response to snow, can't imagine a natural disaster like a mega earthquake.
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all-season fwd no driving aids was fine again in the city and even into the uncleared driveway...parking inside im sure helps but i wonder if all this 'under 5C is not ideal' is based on compound/designs from last century..i'd like to see winter vs modern a/s in normal city driving tested not fucking rwd summer vs winter around the track

i was already going 40 in the right and the orange snow plow in bby was still right on my ass

rcmp next to me pulled over an eg sedan spinning tires at 15kph down kingsway
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Burnaby's shitty drivers during the snowy weather.

YouTube must be full of these dashcam videos now about Lower Mainland's worst drivers in the snow.

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for what its worth, different city has different issues. I remember talking ot city of burnaby and they keep on saying F U Northshore... you're only 20% of what we CoB has to deal with (same for C of Van).

Aside from that, this whole snow, cold weather, causing sheets of ice + trying to find the right mix between chemicals, salts, etc... is causing some issues.

I'm sure if you're talking to the snow plow guys they are definitely working solid hours trying to deal with all this shit.
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all-season fwd no driving aids was fine again in the city and even into the uncleared driveway...parking inside im sure helps but i wonder if all this 'under 5C is not ideal' is based on compound/designs from last century..i'd like to see winter vs modern a/s in normal city driving tested not fucking rwd summer vs winter around the track

i was already going 40 in the right and the orange snow plow in bby was still right on my ass

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YouTube must be full of these dashcam videos now about Lower Mainland's worst drivers in the snow.

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Enjoy the snow and get prepared for a slushy mess. Looks like steady rain on the weekend and into next week.
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borderline stormy in east vancouver

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