I coulda sworn when the torturer brought Theon back, his dad was shown in the background. It was some old bald guy with long, grey side hair.
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I actually disagree with you there.
To me, the show actually feels quite compressed compared to the books. Lots is being left out.

The books easily have enough content to be 2 seasons per book.
But I think budgeting is the issue.
They just don't have the budget to show that many battles, that many fights and that much awesome.


Robb on the battlefield with Grey Wind is skipped.
Arya escaping from Harrenhal would have been epic.
But was never filmed.

I think content in the show is added to bring some emotion to the viewer.
Edmure isn't such a prat.
Jeyne doesn't play such a big part.

Yup the series is really simplified compared to the book... to the point where some of the storylines are really dumbed down. Also some pretty awesome characters are missing (particularly Strong Belwas)

I would agree with the rest. I haven't read the books, but already the tv series seems simplified and the universe has an entire history of awesome stories. The history of the targaryens could easily be a season.

The history of this world is ridiculous.
The Tagaryen story and the Doom of Old Valyria itself could easily be 2 complete series if George R.R. Martin would fill it out.
The simple idea of leaving Old Valyria and the conquest of Westeros could be amazing.

Imagine a story about Brandon the Builder. I would watch that.



Speaking of Targaryen.
Possible spoilers?
And dat cleavage.:notbad:

She looks nasty there
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:haha: @ Sansa impression

Somebody made the Iron Throne from those little green sticks you get at Starbucks...:notbad:

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/archive...g_full_600.jpg

For those interested, the torturer is the son of Roose Bolton who is one of Robb Starks generals. When Winterfell was captured by Theon, Roose Bolton sent his son, Ramsay (the torturer) along with some men to retake the castle. When Theon's soldiers desert him, Ramsay takes Theon prisoner and starts to torture him. Ramsay's (assumed) motive is that his family is allied to the Starks and he is holding Theon as prisoner as a favour for the Starks.

Ramsay's importance in The Game Of Thrones intensifies as the story progresses. :D

^ I didn't read that except the first sentence and I think I just spoiled it for myself.

Can someone tell me if this guy just posted a book spoiler? I'm gonna be mad!
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dont think anything in that post revealed anything that hasnt been in the series yet

Roose Bolton mentioned earlier in the show that his Bastard would deal with Theon at winterfell

^For non-book readers... He as of yet is only known as "boy" as of yet and his true identity has yet to have been revealed.

Why are people failing this? It's a good non-tv-spoiler explanation of Theon's situation.

We really need two threads :rukidding:

You're the one who asked! :rukidding:

So I got all those fails for attempting to clarifying things that ALREADY TOOK PLACE IN THE SERIES? Wow. General Bolton stated loud and clear [in Robb's tent] that HIS BASTARD SON WOULD TAKE BACK WINTERFELL, and Robb Stark ordered Bolton that every Ironborn could return home unharmed except Theon, that THEON IS TO BE TAKEN ALIVE. The Ironborn left, who else could have Theon? Oh it must have been some random stranger out of the blue who just happens to stumble into Winterfell right after the Ironborns leave, randomly kidnaps Theon and then proceeds to torture him. :rukidding:

Also, it's glaringly obvious that the storyline between Theon and his torturer is being built up to some kind of climax LOL.

I don't think any of this happens during book 3 (which we're on right now in season 3 and will be for season 4). IIRC, dude takes back Winterfel but everyone thinks Theon is dead for a whole book or two before we find out he's alive. That's the reveal in the book.

The reveal on the show, because they can't just not have Theon on the show for a year or whatever for some reason, is that the guy is the Bastard of Bolton, Ramsay Snow, but what the fuck that's a stupid reveal because as FARMER pointed out above, you can sort of figure that shit out if you paid attention.

I don't think of anything said as a spoiler unless you're ONLY reading the books, not watching the show and you're not there yet...and there are probably not that many of you.

The buildup is to a different event involving Theon, I'm sure.

Wow did you have to act like such a cunt explaining yourself?

ya well im too lazy to make one so :rukidding:

Farmer is right.

In the books, we don't find out about Theon until much later (book 4?).
To me, that was a holy crap moment and I had to read that page twice.


But in the show, they made it much easier to follow, but kept a bit of mystery there in the form of who is his captor.
The depth of how messed up this whole ordeal is actually implicit in the books. You know some serious stuff went down because you get into Theon's head, but just barely.
George RR Martin never actually gets into the gory details unlike the show.
But the end result is very clear, Theon gets a skull-f*cking 2 ways from Sunday. It's so bad that I felt Theon Turncloak deserved some mercy.


They are showing some of the gory bits on the show.
But are they seriously going to illustrate him getting broken down for the next 2 seasons?



Side note.
I can't wait until we meet the Sand Snakes.
***RAWR***
:ifyouknow:

Reg sand snakes:


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Oh man I forgot about that, read it quite a while ago.. so epic, can't wait to see :fullofwin:

Sorry I removed my fail. I spend to much time on reddit and sometimes look out for stuff thats not spoilered.

EDIT: BIGGEST SPOILER IN THE HISTORY OF SPOILERS. DON'T CLICK. SERIOUS. - Ronin

i was browsing through a forum that is completely unrelated to GOT and suddenly some phag posted this out of nowhere...



thus leading me to google and confirm everything fml.