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It's not just the fact that it's easier like I said I could care less than to eat 15 meals a day and spend the time effort and money to prepare cook and eat meals. I can eat the same way I'm eating now and with the help of juice get more results faster, cheaper, and easier than someone who is dieting perfectly, and spending shit loads on foods and sups. The negative stigma that is surrounded by steroids is the media's clever web of lies and misdirection regarding use and abuse propagated by it being illegal and therefore the "war on drugs" spills over to Steroids.
Why go to the gym? Oh to get stronger, bigger, better muscles. Well steroids do that. They do it damn well. When taken properly and in moderation. Do you think I like taking a year to gain a few pounds? Does anyone?
Case in point is OP from this thread. He's gained more in 10 weeks than he has in a year. I'd call that money well spent.
I just said I don't get using extremely strong drugs just to get big. That is ME. For YOU it might make total sense. If you are going to try to explain it, 'defending' steroids is not necessary.
... and how long does one cycle last and how much would you gain in muscle about?
If you get on a good diet plan and eat about 5000calories worth of pizza, breadsticks, and hamburgers a day, all while scarfing down ~200G worth of protein from whey shakes ... and if you train for 3 hours a day and grunt + scream + stare down smaller guys while you're at the gym ..
Probably be benching like 350, squatting 500, and deadlifting 600 realistically.
you'll probably be able to do tricep kickbacks with 80's, do 2 at a time so it looks like you're milking two invisible cocks at the same time like the homo you are
edit:
Spoiler!
get this tshirt
just so you can warn all those motherfuckers of the colossal muscle mountain you'll be in about 30 days
... and how long does one cycle last and how much would you gain in muscle about?
Around 500$ is a good estimate for a cycle of 12 weeks or so. You can expect to keep 20lbs real muscle. Gains up to 30ish pounds are common but some of that is water weight that goes away when you come off. I've never gained less than 15 pounds real muscle and that was on a shitty shitty cycle (my first one).
12 weeks
500mg of test c(250 mon, 250 thurs)/ week
week 13 and 14 break
pct: clomid and nolvadex for 4 weeks
anyone gimme any advice, feedback, opinions on this?
age:21
5'7 about 165lbs
workout bout 3-4 times a week
diets been pretty good(could use a little work, but with school and work diet can be a little difficult)
12 weeks
500mg of test c(250 mon, 250 thurs)/ week you have to pin cyp EOD do E if u dont wanna pin that much
week 13 and 14 break
pct: clomid and nolvadex for 4 weeks should have some HCG on hand and a-dex incase ur gyno sensitive... and a PCT is about 3000x more complex than just 2 serms.
anyone gimme any advice, feedback, opinions on this?
age:21
5'7 about 165lbs establish a good base before celltech noob should be pullin atleast 4pate deadlift before the darkside
workout bout 3-4 times a week LOL...... 7 days a week u bitch
diets been pretty good(could use a little work, but with school and work diet can be a little difficult) Yeah, you aint ready for celltech go waste your money , ur choice
i'm joining the darkside and doing TestE/Tren-A/Dbolkickstart/Proviron cycle next year most likely heheheh
12 weeks
500mg of test c(250 mon, 250 thurs)/ week
week 13 and 14 break
pct: clomid and nolvadex for 4 weeks
anyone gimme any advice, feedback, opinions on this?
age:21
5'7 about 165lbs
workout bout 3-4 times a week
diets been pretty good(could use a little work, but with school and work diet can be a little difficult)
u r so not ready
me and strykn should be guest speakers at gym, give us 10 percent of what you would spend and we will talk to u for one hour and u will see gains like no other
Halo people know what to do usually, but it's so much funner to do curls and drink muscle milk instead of lifting heavy and eating lots. Posted via RS Mobile
Sooo Berz ... you've been juicing for a decade but can only do 5 widegrip pullups
...somethings not right....LoL!
Ultimately it's your body, do what you want with it. But it's frustrating for us naturals to see you juicers explode overnight (usually when the sun comes out)
When I started the gym everybody was so huge, now, 2 years later i'm bigger than most of the guys I looked up to. I got a lil bigger, but they got wayyy smaller, like they got the super aids or something...makes me soooo happy!
Like you said ... it's easier to juice than to eat right ... you're forgetting, weightlifting isn't about things being easier!!!!
Where did I say I've been juicing for a decade? I did my first cycle when I was 20. 16 years ago. I did 3 more after that about 2 years apart. I also stopped working out for long lengths of time due to various reasons. Injuries, relationships, work, etc. I have been actively lifting again since June and I was 185lbs. Before that I hadn't lifted in 3 years (I was 230lbs when I stopped lifting)
So I could look at you and say I've only been lifting weights for 6 months and I'm already pulling 4 plates and squatting 3 plates. I weigh 200lbs now so I've gained 15 lbs in 6 months but realistically that was in 5 months as my weight hasn't gone up at all in about 5 weeks. My caloric intake isn't sufficient to sustain my growth levels at this point. As for the wide grip pull ups.. I neglected my back and legs all my years of training. I've admitted that from the get go. Shoulders Chest Abs and Arms Brah. Typical juicemonkey douchbag right? Besides chicks don't stroke your back and ooh and ahh they stroke abs and chest Brah.
My personal preference is to not juice until I have built up a decent enough base. That usually happens around 200-205lbs. Then I crank and pop up to 220-230. This next time will be interesting as I don't see any problems continuing lifting after I've completed the cycle. Job is steady, life is steady. No worries no bullshit.
Sooo Berz ... you've been juicing for a decade but can only do 5 widegrip pullups
...somethings not right....LoL!
Ultimately it's your body, do what you want with it. But it's frustrating for us naturals to see you juicers explode overnight (usually when the sun comes out)
When I started the gym everybody was so huge, now, 2 years later i'm bigger than most of the guys I looked up to. I got a lil bigger, but they got wayyy smaller, like they got the super aids or something...makes me soooo happy!
Like you said ... it's easier to juice than to eat right ... you're forgetting, weightlifting isn't about things being easier!!!!
Why do people think juicing is "easy" usually guys who are on crank are lifting a lot fucking harder a lot more often than those who aren't. How is that "easy"?
Just a personal observation, but when I see juicers at the gym, they are usually there the longest, but doing the weakest ass workouts of anyone. Maybe it's just the training program they're on, with a lot of high volume isolation work, or maybe they do their 'hard' workout later in the day, but when I see a ripped 250 lb guy with bacne at the gym, they are usually taking it pretty easy.
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