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Old 12-22-2010, 12:05 PM   #76
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acceleration = AWD snow tires > AWD all season tires > FWD snow tires > RWD snow tires > FWD all season > RWD heavy load = RWD all season

braking = any car with snow tires are equal > any car with all season tires > any car with all season tires + heavy load
Re: Braking - this is correct in many situations but only partly true. Slowing down does not always require braking. When going down steep, slippery hills in my awd I'll gear down. It's amazing how well engine braking helps to keep you straight while the awd is actively managing the power.
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:07 PM   #77
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I think he just means the guy wasn't taking care of his car in general, not just oil changes. Poor driving habits probably contributed.
"My power window won't roll down - I must be driving my car too hard or not changing the oil frequently enough".

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Old 12-22-2010, 12:12 PM   #78
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As far as initial quality/satisfaction which is what you'll be dealing with on a day to day basis I have yet to find a japanese import brand comparable to a german brand.
You make a valid point here. A car that feels solid enhances the ownership experience a lot. I'd say it's even worth paying more to get.
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e46 m3 > e92 328i
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Old 12-22-2010, 03:04 PM   #80
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Another thought on Hondas vs. Germans:

The reason why people say that Hondas are reliable is that you can get away with very little maintenance and the car will still run for a long time. I'll take my Integra as an example. The clutch hasn't been changed in 13 years and only over the last couple of year has the clutch started to go. I just changed the fuel filter last weekend and since I've owned (8 years) the car, it hadn't been changed at all. The power steering fluid hasn't been flushed in nearly a decade. I could go on.

However, on my dad's E36, the plastic radiator broke because the coolant wasn't changed regularly. German cars are reliable, but they're engineered with a different tolerance with respect to maintenance (i.e. they need to be maintained at regular intervals.)
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BMW ftw
i own one, and will probably never go back to a japanese car
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Why would skipping maintenance (which is really just oil changes during that time period) cause problems with the water pump and electrical system?

Thanks for reinforcing my point.
BMW has really shitty water pump, if you don' flush the system regularly, the water pump will clog and die. I was suggested to replace a E36 pump with a aftermarket pump and indeed it lasted forever.

I don't know what electrical system he's talking about. if a fail O2 sensor or burnt light bulbs or walky taillights, sure, it happens to everyone, but never encounter a serious one that the engine won't start.


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Re: Braking - this is correct in many situations but only partly true. Slowing down does not always require braking. When going down steep, slippery hills in my awd I'll gear down. It's amazing how well engine braking helps to keep you straight while the awd is actively managing the power.
HAHA, I am assuming driving on a flat straight road.
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a lot of people misunderstand the meaning of "I don't abuse my car, so my car should not have any problem" and "I take good care of my car, I know where it went wrong". Just like you think you eat healthy, doesn't mean you do throughout body check up every year.

heck, who doesn't know Honda is damn reliable, I used to own an Acura and we spent $0 on the engine and all mechanical parts. The fun of owning a BMW is that you can take it apart and drive it like it is actually yours. It is questionable how many people here actually love their cars and spend time with it. Who can raise their hand they change their own engine oil or flush the coolant nowadays? All I see on RS are only stereotype comments like "Honda is reliable, BMW gets chicks" that's all.
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IMO This is one of the reasons I generally avoid toyota/honda quality.
Folks, that is why you buy a Chevy Astra...because it is just that good.
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