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Old 01-06-2011, 07:15 PM   #26
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yeah I want to take away his license to rebuild cars, not his drivers license. no other car that he touched should be on the road. I know its a lost cause and really hard to prove, and is not worth the time for a car less than 3k.
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License to rebuild cars... why not take it a step further. Have his ability to reproduce revoke. Thatll really teach him. Dude your really starting to sound like a troll. Moron or troll- which is it?
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Old 01-06-2011, 07:22 PM   #28
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Written sales agreement for used vehicles must include:

whether the vehicle was brought in for sale from outside the province and the name of any other jurisdiction where the vehicle was registered, if known to the dealer;
if it was used as a police car, taxi, emergency, lease or rental vehicle;
whether the odometer accurately records the true distance traveled or kilometres indicated; and
if the vehicle had sustained damage which cost more than $2,000.
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okay here is the deal. my friend bought a civic, and from the ad described it, it was perfect. however it was far from it. Not only was the car the wrong model, ex instead of an si, as stated, but also has a rebuild status that he failed to mention.

There is a whole list of problems, but I wont get into that. Is there anyone I can contact to get my friends money back? Also I'm pretty sure the guy who sold it to her also repaired it, But its repaired really badly. Is there a way I can revoke his license?
so your friend bought a car before actually looking at it or testing it out?

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Tell her to look at the transfer form she signed. On the upper left corner there's a spot to check off if it's been rebuilt, altered, dismantled or salvaged and another if it's been flood damaged. There's also another spot to check off if it's had more than $2000 worth of damage. If it's been declared that it's rebuilt/had more than $2k damage and she signed the bottom, she's SOL.

Edit: I just looked and it's on the upper right corner of the form.
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^ At least someone knows what's up, half the replys are just "Buyer beware you're screwed!"
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Well, I do have a personal opinion but just decided to post the facts. LOL
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I bet the seller is rolling on the ground laughing his ass off at the moment.

or maybe hes too wasted after all the celebratory partying.

anyhow, thanks for sharing your friend's stupidity.
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Does it still apply to cars imported form the states?
Yes, you must indicate that it is from outside BC. If you buy the vehicle from Canada, but it originates in the states it applys. I'm not sure though if you personally import it yourself, but I think they have a similar declaration law.
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^ knows his shit (and yes it MUST be disclosed)

Just look at the transfer form ( Code APV9T at bottom left hand corner in tiny writing )

Top right hand corner, in the same box as the sellers info, there will also be boxes needed to be checked of by seller. 1)if ever used as a police, emergency police, taxi, lease, rented, etc 2) from out of province? 3) damage over 20% or damage over $2000
4) KMs

Go onto aircare and search up the old info, it will also tell u the past KMs on the car and if the guy potentially rolled back the KMs

also on the top right hand corner (first box) will have vehicle information,
ie reg,make,model,body style, colour, and the really important one in this case is
VEHICLE STATUS. If the seller put a "R" in that box.. ur argument is invalid.

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I bet the seller is rolling on the ground laughing his ass off at the moment.

or maybe hes too wasted after all the celebratory partying.

anyhow, thanks for sharing your friend's stupidity.
indeed, a stupid mistake. Anyways update for those who want to know and who have helped.

Yes, she did a full inspection the day AFTER she bought it, and problem came up. Car was out of province and rebuilt. Guy is dodging the calls.

however we found out the car was purchased from icbc salvage yard early dec 2010, And we know which dealer purchased it. However she purchased it 2 days ago from a individual private seller instead. Which leads us to believe that these guys are partners. So that car was bought and "repaired" within less than a month.

I also called the so called dealership, and they denied they even had the car. Until i told him I had proof that they indeed purchased this car from the salvage yard did they cave in and admitted to having the car. They told me it was sold a while ago, however its only been within a month.

so were contacting the links that everyone provided and see how that goes from there.

I also dont want to publicize the name of the dealership just yet, until everything is settled. But just a hint, its in new west.

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report the seller to the cyber police, so they can dun backtrace it.
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I don't see no case here.

If the transfer form says it's rebuilt but he orally didn't mention anything then legally he did actually mention it - on paper - that it's a rebuilt status.

If your friend bought it signing on A LEGAL DOCUMENT that does state the status of the car being a rebuilt then there is no case. The fact that she did not read through the details of the paperwork before signing on the dotted line does not make the contract unenforceable.

So the only way you'd have a case here is that the car is indeed a rebuilt status car but the copies with your friend and ICBC does NOT have the proper indication that the car was a rebuilt. In that case you can sue for misrepresentation.

Whether the seller is an accomplice with the dealer that bought the vehicle from the ICBC salvage yard is of no concern to this case - the fact is that the legal owner was the guy that sold the car and your friend agreed to the terms set out in the legal document that is the ICBC transfer form, which specifies if the car in question has a rebuilt status. The seller could have bought the car from the dealership knowing that it is a rebuilt status vehicle or, like the OP said, rebuilt it himself. It does NOT matter once a title is not a clean one it'll never be a clean one. Could be rebuilt the next year after the car rolled out of the factory for all that matters.

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indeed, a stupid mistake. Anyways update for those who want to know and who have helped.

Yes, she did a full inspection the day AFTER she bought it, and problem came up. Car was out of province and rebuilt. Guy is dodging the calls.

however we found out the car was purchased from icbc salvage yard early dec 2010, And we know which dealer purchased it. However she purchased it 2 days ago from a individual private seller instead. Which leads us to believe that these guys are partners. So that car was bought and "repaired" within less than a month.

I also called the so called dealership, and they denied they even had the car. Until i told him I had proof that they indeed purchased this car from the salvage yard did they cave in and admitted to having the car. They told me it was sold a while ago, however its only been within a month.

so were contacting the links that everyone provided and see how that goes from there.

I also dont want to publicize the name of the dealership just yet, until everything is settled. But just a hint, its in new west.

thank you

perhaps the private seller was trying to flip the vehicle?
i have kept cars for a few days before selling them out.

at least your friend can do some basic research next time before they purchase her next vehicle.
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icbc / car proof report - find history and lien of vehicle
basic vehicle research - civic ex vs si. the si emblem is basically written all over the car.. gauges, seats, trunk, grill, 5 spd vs 6 spd.
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basic vehicle research - civic ex vs si. the si emblem is basically written all over the car.. gauges, seats, trunk, grill, 5 spd vs 6 spd.
OR! The seller could had spent $5 bucks and sticked Si emblem all over the car
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Hey man, I told you it was a good car. You want your money back? I'm kind of tight now but let's see what we can figure out. I'll be in Van soon with my homies.

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My friend was the one who sold her the car. I know of this ex pretending to be an SI.

You can PM me the girls phone number and I can call her to see if I can help her getting the transaction reversed.
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