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Old 01-12-2011, 10:51 AM   #26
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I can't believe you guys think this is nice, looks like shit.
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:28 AM   #27
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only thing that bothers me the most are the wierd doors.. 2 doors 1 ea/ for passenger and rear passenger on the left side and 1 'coupe' door on drivers side? :S
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:17 PM   #28
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Korea's knocking off CR-Zs now!
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Sadly, there's no need for Honda to step up their game. Honda has been living off of their reputation that they built in the 1980s. The Civic still sells like hotcakes and the Accord isn't a sales slouch either. Even if Honda decides to make a somewhat sporty car, they will lose out to luxury brands such as BMW, Audi and Mercedes which have made their cars more "affordable" in the last 10 years with aggressive leasing programs. I see more late model 3-series coupes on the road than RSXs. Heck, I even see more Z4s than S2000s.


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Civics always have and always will sell. Honda doesn't have to change anything. Why fix something that's not broken?
The competition's just rising, but Honda isn't falling.
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Old 01-12-2011, 05:08 PM   #31
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. Why fix something that's not broken?
Isn't that what the big 3 said?
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:27 PM   #32
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Isn't that what the big 3 said?
The Japanese still make decent cars that are borderline appliances.

It took the Big 3 nearly 40 years to catch up in terms of quality and reliability.
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:37 PM   #33
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The window line reminds me of the 370z/GT-R.
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the new CR-Z TS-1X being revealed at the 2011 Tokyo Auto Salon along with the Modulo NSX
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imo, crz looks better. combine the looks of the crz+specs of this car = epic win
I still agree with what was said in a recent Motor Trend magazine...

"Honda should just put the Civic Si motor into the CR-Z and call it a day."

Maybe then someone would actually want to buy one.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:20 AM   #36
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I still agree with what was said in a recent Motor Trend magazine...

"Honda should just put the Civic Si motor into the CR-Z and call it a day."

Maybe then someone would actually want to buy one.
I imagine that Honda has invested a significant amount of money into Hybrid technology and as a result, they're trying to turn the CR-Z into some kind of halo car (i.e. hybrid technology can be sexy.) But, their marketers haven't realized that most enthusiasts appreciate the many quirks of an internal combustion engine - the different sounds, the tunability, etc.

Another reason for the poor sales is that enthusiasts would rather spend money on used cars (that are inherently simpler and more tunable) and save the rest of their cash for mods.
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:24 AM   #37
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I can't believe you guys think this is nice, looks like shit.
Thank you I'm not the only one that think this shit is ugly
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:28 PM   #38
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so this is a 3 seater but its the same weight as a corolla...
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Old 01-13-2011, 04:32 PM   #39
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so this is a 3 seater but its the same weight as a corolla...
4 seater
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What? the pictures above is the concept model is it not? Are you saying you've seen the production model of this car?
where does it say it's a concept? The concept pictures look different than this, leading me to believe that this is what we'll get in a few months.
Sure it says 2012 model, but that's how hyundai rolls. My 2010 coupe was bought in february 2009 with a janurary build date, some US owners have an 08 build date for their 2010 coupe.
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lol every Hyundai thread turns into vs. Honda debate
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I still agree with what was said in a recent Motor Trend magazine...

"Honda should just put the Civic Si motor into the CR-Z and call it a day."

Maybe then someone would actually want to buy one.
I think what Honda wanted to prove was that hybrid cars can be sporty and fun to drive...

if they just put K20 or whatever...that would just be another Civic hatch kind of thing.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:27 AM   #44
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Honda used to do both: CRX Si and HF, no reason they can't do it with CR-Z if they wanted to. I'd have bought a CR-Z already if it had a backseat ... I'd buy the Veloster if it weren't for that Hyundai badge on it.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:35 AM   #45
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lol every Hyundai thread turns into vs. Honda debate
Unfortunately, there isn't much of a debate anymore..
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Old 11-22-2011, 09:08 PM   #46
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test drove the car. Its got all the gadgets such as heated seats, push button start, panaromic moonroof, bluetooth, 7" touchscreen.
Looks awesome on the road as well. Powerwise, not so much. Wait a little longer and hopefully they come out with the turbo version.
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Old 11-22-2011, 09:15 PM   #47
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^ Saw one on the road the other day.

Definitely looks like a bag of ass.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:05 PM   #48
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To compare a Hyundai Veloster to a Honda CRX is just morally inexcusable.

The CRX had such a major influence on import compact car culture.
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Old 11-22-2011, 10:16 PM   #49
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Hyundai continues to drive honda to its grave!
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And honda deserves it for getting complacent. I saw one of these yesterday and it looks pretty good actually. Stands out in regular traffic.
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