MWR34 stolen vehicle UPDATE

[InvisibleSoul]

None of you guys remember what I posted up in the original thread before it was deleted?

I linked to two past articles where this EXACT same thing happened.

Basically any shady person running a "towing service" can go steal cars with little fear, because even in a case where they get "caught" and identified, they just claim that someone saying they were the owner told them to tow it someplace.

Case #1: http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=13712

I ran to the security office to ask around and a guard told me that he saw it getting towed out of the stall and out of the bcit parking lot , 45 minuites earlier. I called the tow truck company that he saw take my bike away MUNDYS TOWING and they told me this,,,,,"A GUY CALLED AND SAID HE LOST HIS KEYS TO HIS BIKE AND HE NEEDED IT TOWED". I then said,,"DID YOU NOT ASK FOR I.D. YOU JERK OFF,,,THAT WAS MY FU*KIN BIKE YOU PRICK.". And i called the cops to report it. The COP finaly came a half hour later and we then proceded to drive to the location of the drop off. 5 minuites before we got there,,,aparently the jack ass who got the bike towed called again to get it moved again ("so they say"). But MUNDYS TOWING informed him that it was now a stolen bike and the cops were on there way. OBVIOUSLY the thieve didn't stick around to welcome myself and the cop to where he had the bike droped off. We got there and my precious baby was standing there in the sunshine untouched with the disc lock still on it.

Case #2: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...d-495a131b679a

It was gone.

"So I canvassed the neighbourhood," Rick said, "and one of the neighbours said she had seen a red tow truck towing it away, and she remembered the first three or four digits of the company's phone number on the side of the truck."

Rick recognized the phone number. He had once worked for a car company, and it had used the towing company's services regularly.

It was Mundie's Towing, Storage and Service Ltd. Rick phoned Mundie's. He asked them if they had towed his car away. They said, yes, as per the instructions of the car's owner.

Well, Rick told them, he was the car's owner and he hadn't told anybody to tow it away.

Where, he asked, had they towed it?

To an address in Surrey, Rick was told, as per the instructions of the, um, owner.

So in this case, they did in fact sue the towing company...

So, Rick said, he and his father approached Mundie's for compensation. Between labour estimates and receipts for parts, they estimate the worth of the car to be anywhere between $35,000 and $38,000.

And what, Rick was asked, did Mundie's offer in return?

"They had offered us," Rick said, "what I'm going to say is an unreasonable amount. That's when I decided we had to go before a judge."

The Charbonneaus filed their notice of claim on April 27, 2006, and framed their cause of action under "conversion" -- which, if Wikipedia has got it right, is "where defendant's unjustified wilful interference with the chattel" (that is, property) "deprives plaintiff of possession of such chattel."

In other words, the Charbonneaus were saying, Mundie's interfered with their property by towing away their Beaumont.

A civil matter, it went before Provincial Court Judge Thomas Woods in New Westminster in July of this year. The case, to a great degree, centred around the question of conversion.

On Aug. 21, Judge Woods rendered his decision, in which he described the person who instructed Mundie's to tow the car away as "a rogue."

"The rogue's identity is not known and the vehicle has never been recovered," Woods wrote.

To distill Woods's dense (and, to me, headache-inducing) disquisition on conversion and the case law informing it, he sides with the Charbonneaus.

"Counsel," Woods wrote in his decision, "may contact the registry with a view to arranging a date for continuation of the trial of this matter for the purpose of addressing any issues that have not already been addressed in these reasons."

In light of the judge's decision, Rick hopes that the case can be settled before it goes back to small claims court. Since it is small claims, the most he and his father can get in compensation is $25,000.

Once you mentioned that a towing truck had taken your car, this immediately came to mind... I knew I remembered hearing about towing trucks stealing cars before.

Good luck.

[hotong]

^ w0w that is brutal

[Jun_Y]

Originally Posted by n0ob

How do you know him and from where did you get his contact information?

he came by handing out business cards to shops when i was still working at cannonball in new west. we used him quite a few times to help bail out customers when they had trouble with their cars to bring to our shop or even helped us in transporting cars to and from places for work. his prices are pretty good compared other big name towing companies such as drake or busters and such. Like the OP said, he's the o/o of the truck and that's all he does for work so he'll take any job if he can do it. No matter what time it is, if he picks up, good chance he's up for hire.

[MindBomber]

Just as an experiment, I might call Mundie's towing and see if they'll tow a car with no I.D., proof of ownership, keys or cash in hand..

[Mr.Money]

^ - video tape that shit.


yeah he's handing out business cards to legit company's for work to make it like he's making "Clean money" then working with Car theft's on part time.

[Eastwood]

Originally Posted by Jun_Y

he came by handing out business cards to shops when i was still working at cannonball in new west. we used him quite a few times to help bail out customers when they had trouble with their cars to bring to our shop or even helped us in transporting cars to and from places for work. his prices are pretty good compared other big name towing companies such as drake or busters and such. Like the OP said, he's the o/o of the truck and that's all he does for work so he'll take any job if he can do it. No matter what time it is, if he picks up, good chance he's up for hire.

I'm calling bullshit on this one. You're defending the guy way too much when your facts are skewed.

He hands out cards does he... Is that the only avenue of advertising the guy sources? Sounds fishy; him and you.

[izzue.hk]

dude why do u always park your car there, I always see it.

[CP.AR]

Originally Posted by Eastwood

I'm calling bullshit on this one. You're defending the guy way too much when your facts are skewed.

He hands out cards does he... Is that the only avenue of advertising the guy sources? Sounds fishy; him and you.

Handing out cards to shops is no way fishy... and independent owner operators are understandably cheaper than the big towing companies.
Just like in a ground level office, you always have random independent sub-contractors advertising their services from door to door - be it welders looking for work or experienced drafters and CAD detailers.

[Jun_Y]

Originally Posted by Eastwood

I'm calling bullshit on this one. You're defending the guy way too much when your facts are skewed.

He hands out cards does he... Is that the only avenue of advertising the guy sources? Sounds fishy; him and you.

well i'm not going to waste my time trying to tell you off through this forum cuz its not only off topic but also pointless and you're hiding behind a damn computer saying this making you a fucking pussy.

i'm not defending the guy in any means as im saying i've just dealt with him on more occasions than once. The guy has gone through most of the lower mainland handing out his cars to mainly shops not to the general public as my other colleagues and acquaintances know of or used his services in the past. Some of these ppl are shop owners that some of you have visited via this forum or other.

Be it he's a crook or just plain stupid, evidence will prevail if he is guilty of this act.

my personal opinion is that he IS stupid enough to be gullable to do this.

[Roach]

MWR34, I suggest you contact a lawyer and reference the above-mentioned case as a precedent to what has happened to you.

I can't say for sure whether the owner/operator of the tow truck is implicated in the scheme, however, he has to be held liable for his negligence in towing a vehicle without sufficient paperwork.

If not, I forsee this situation happening again. Collect as much information as possible. Contact a lawyer and perhaps involve ICBC as I'm sure this situation would be of interest to them.

And finally, I would avoid making comments or posting photos of the tow truck operator until you have consulted a lawyer.

Still hoping you recover your car.

Kev

[Vansterdam]

while i do hope you get your car back

chances are its already on its way to jamaica or africa

[turb0fr3ak]

sorry but i dont trust black people. just being honest.

[Death2Theft]

Like i told you clowns I've had cars towed all the time without any proof of ownership. The only time they ask for ID is if you pay in credit card. You pay cash and your good. Hell they've even helped me pushed cars into my garage which has a hoist in it... I mean it could actually look like a chopshop haha.

[Berzerker]

Originally Posted by Death2Theft

Like i told you clowns I've had cars towed all the time without any proof of ownership. The only time they ask for ID is if you pay in credit card. You pay cash and your good. Hell they've even helped me pushed cars into my garage which has a hoist in it... I mean it could actually look like a chopshop haha.

I've never once been asked for ID or proof of ownership either and also had cars towed to my garage that does NOT look like a legit shop. Kinda scary now that I think about it! lol
Mind you I've always used legit companies and not individually owned trucks. I have been with my car's during all the tows both pick up and drop off however. I've never called and instructed from the phone without dealing with the tow truck driver.

Berz out.

[StylinRed]

"Hi Prince Nkulu towing?

I've got a Gallardo parked @ my friends house by Whytecliff Park could you tow it to my garage by Oppenheimer Park for me?

I can't pass you my keys atm because we're up in Whistler just leave it on the side of the road and i'll deal with it and pay you when i get back.

Okay? sweet"


yeah... no there should be some sort of regulation for towing services so scum can't get away with this bs

[CP.AR]

now imagine none of the locksmiths ever ask you for ID when they help you break the lock to "your house" because you lost them

[-EuroRSN-]

The idea of calling up and tow truck company and them towing any car without much questions asked really bothers me... This literally means you can jack any car you want without consequences... Fuck that!!!

[Hondaracer]

if you were a tow truck driver, all you do is drive somewhere, place a call from a payphone to your own cell, tow the car and tell the cops that the payphone number was the number the "client" called you from to tow his car

[dlo]

^ Pretty sure they can track payphones lol, there should be surviallances around and do remember having payphones having conversations saved

[The_AK]

Originally Posted by Vansterdam

while i do hope you get your car back

chances are its already on its way to jamaica or africa

Probably to Nigeria actually, where a prince awaits
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[Xavie]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

if you were a tow truck driver, all you do is drive somewhere, place a call from a payphone to your own cell, tow the car and tell the cops that the payphone number was the number the "client" called you from to tow his car

You sound like you have experience with this lol...

[Lomac]

For what it's worth, out of probably two dozen times I've had a car towed, I've only been asked for ID once. Tow truck drivers rarely bother verifying you're the actual owner of the car. Then again, sometimes you can't actually verify you have the right to have the car towed because 1) you aren't the registered owner of the car, or, 2) you're unable to produce the registration slip because it's locked inside the car along with your keys.
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[Prolowtone]

^true. I was never id"ed and never had to show my papers when i got my car towed from Langley to Surrey. took the car off the truck, paid cash and he left

[baggdis300]

yeah, i have never been asked for id even when they are unlocking the car for me...

and the o/o drivers just care about getting paid.

lucky for me i have found a reilable/cheap flatdeck driver 50$ for 20 km tows FTW

[Berzerker]

^^ Is he black and Drive a Hino? lol

Berz out.