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geeknerd 02-02-2011 03:16 PM

The only reason that should be used to boycott shark consumption is the fact that they are an endagered species and if it goes extinct it will mess up the marine ecosystem a lil bit.

anything else u guys talk about its quite useless really.

MindBomber 02-02-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by geeknerd (Post 7289697)
The only reason that should be used to boycott shark consumption is the fact that they are an endagered species and if it goes extinct it will mess up the marine ecosystem a lil bit.

anything else u guys talk about its quite useless really.

Point out where something other than prohibiting shark fin soup, because it endangers the future of many shark species was discussed in this thread.
:stfu:

donjalapeno 02-02-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EmperorIS (Post 7287687)
so first we can't eat dogs ... now we can't eat shark fins

but this is ALRIGHT because its ALLLL WHITE

fucking hypocrites

:stfu:

RiceIntegraRS 02-02-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Picard (Post 7289582)
There ARE substitutes to shark fin that carry pretty much the same texture and properties, made with nothing but flour and gluten. If they mass market it as the sustainable alternative, i'm sure it'll catch on.

Again, simply telling people to STOP just isn't going to work

i think convincing the younger generation of people to stop eating it will be alot easier the convincing the older generation. So maybe put a ban on people who are born past a certain year like 1980 or something, kinda like alchohol drinking age law but instead of age its birthyear cause it seems like the older generation think its actually a delicacy. Maybe its a dumb idea, but thats the only solution i can think of that can slowly stop shark finning

geeknerd 02-02-2011 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MindBomber (Post 7289842)
Point out where something other than prohibiting shark fin soup, because it endangers the future of many shark species was discussed in this thread.
:stfu:

animal creulty? question on cultures? u fucking blind?

ShyGuy 02-02-2011 05:30 PM

I'm having shark fin soup tonight...yum!

oinkoinkpig 02-02-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 7289894)
I'm having shark fin soup tonight...yum!

So did I, at home though. My family is eating whatever stock is left at home but won't be buying anymore in the future since they took notice of this issue. I know a lot of people are going to continue eating shark fin but hey, atleast I know I contributed something by not consuming/buying it anymore.

MindBomber 02-02-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by geeknerd (Post 7289868)
animal creulty? question on cultures? u fucking blind?

All relevant to the issue being discussed;shark finning is a type of animal cruelty, shark fin soup and the reason it is difficult to convince people to stop consuming it is cultural. Do you have basic reading comprehension skills?

Hondaracer 02-02-2011 07:10 PM

Cultural like cutting off bear paws and gallbladders after poaching a bear..

Seems like most Chinese aphrodesiacs require some sort of animal cruelty/waste :p
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geeknerd 02-02-2011 08:27 PM

all im saying is the animal cruelty card shouldn't be played; only the endangered species reason is what should count.
hinduism vs cows, they must think we are monsters.

LiquidTurbo 02-02-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by geeknerd (Post 7290221)
all im saying is the animal cruelty card shouldn't be played; only the endangered species reason is what should count.
hinduism vs cows, they must think we are monsters.

You're a hypocrit if you're uncomfortable about the sled dog incident. Animal cruelty card is absolutely legit.
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shawn79 02-02-2011 09:07 PM


1exotic 02-02-2011 09:34 PM

^ lol

someone should have knocked her out...

lock that pig up in a zoo where she belongs.

geeknerd 02-02-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo (Post 7290256)
You're a hypocrit if you're uncomfortable about the sled dog incident. Animal cruelty card is absolutely legit.
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im not uncomfortable about that incident. didnt even commet on it.

just saying imo, animal cruelty is a subjective perspective
hard core vegetarians think eating meat is cruel even though they are killed in a 'humane' way.
no one has fur coats here?
any girls here use makeup? probably animal tested.
any1 get rabies shot?

and its part because i am 'evil' ? i believe being top of the food chain grants me the right to do anything to lower as long as it doesnt have consequences for mankind as a whole. no one kill insects here before? its cruel but since they are not endangered its ok? oh i see how it is.

last shark left in the world and its biting u, u not gonna kill it??????

Mugen EvOlutioN 02-02-2011 10:01 PM

world is coming to an end, so its ok for them to go extinct anyway. We'd all be wiped out before they do
:fullofwin:

Sandman 02-02-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by geeknerd (Post 7289697)
The only reason that should be used to boycott shark consumption is the fact that they are an endagered species and if it goes extinct it will mess up the marine ecosystem a lil bit.

anything else u guys talk about its quite useless really.

lol. Sharks dead = everything on the planet dead. Half of the worlds oxygen source is generated from oceans.

TRDood 02-02-2011 10:38 PM

Finally get to finish the video. Chinese people are going to demand the product as they get richer. I think its a phase. Personally I think it tastes good, but would not pay $50 a bowl for it out of my own pocket. I'd rather have a lobster or steak.

Speaking of cruelty, shark finning is not THAT bad relative to people eating monkey brains by cracking the monkey's skull open. Luckily, not that many people do that anymore - i hope.
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CKLCKL 02-02-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Boobiemaster (Post 7290430)
lol. Sharks dead = everything on the planet dead. Half of the worlds oxygen source is generated from oceans.

No, sharks wont cause everything to die; in fact, they live off the oxygen from the photosynthesis caused by phytoplanktons.

Gh0stRider 02-02-2011 10:59 PM

i've only had it 3 times. after watching that vid, i never knew they threw away the body...holy crap

MindBomber 02-02-2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gh0stRider (Post 7290521)
i've only had it 3 times. after watching that vid, i never knew they threw away the body...holy crap

The question is, with your new found knowledge, would you eat it again?

Culverin 02-02-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 7288873)
It's kind of like asking why they still believe in ghosts and shit. Bunch of uneducated mongrels pretty much.

I wouldn't call them mongrels, but yes, there will always be uneducated people within every demographic.

Unfortunately, us in the west must wake up and face reality, that china has a MASSIVE population, 1,341,000,000 people (estimate from wikipedia).
That's just short of 40 times the population of canada.

Let's just assume for the moment that the barest 1% of that is RICH.
Not gold-plated-italian-supercar-rich, but VERY rich.
Enough for them to secure their future, their kids, and their grandparents.
That's 100 MILLION very rich people. And it's almost all "new money", meaning the generation that earned all that money was not raised by parents with a university education. They likely didn't even finish high school.


Let me put this in perspective.
My family is not what I would call "rich", but fairly well off?
My parents, grandparents and uncle live near oakridge. They all have 9-5 white collar jobs, not execs by any long shot.

A couple years back while I was still doing weekly dinners with the extended family, there was sharkfin soup for each person. And not the shared communal large pot. I'm talking individual ramekins of whole fins.

That's a table of 12, let's call it 30+ weeks a year.
That's a well off, not "rich" family.

Now think back to china's population?
Therein lies the problem.


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Originally Posted by LiquidTurbo (Post 7288942)
So the solution is simple, Gordon Ramsey should instead advocate for Shark Farming, and eating the rest of the shark!

No can do.
  1. Shark's don't breed in captivity.
  2. A very long time until they are of breeding age.
  3. They aren't like salmon, they need space and prey to hunt.
  4. The rest of the sharks is garbage meat.

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Originally Posted by Captain Picard (Post 7289035)
Yup I know, but the message that I think he carried in that video (and the message that is spreading) is that consumption should stop IMMEDIATELY. How can you stop a culturally important food item in a heartbeat? Sure there's a "display of wealth" side to the sharkfin soup, but it's gotten to the point where it's a celebratory food item reserved for MAJOR events such as: Weddings, Chinese New Year, Baby showers, etc... it is NOT an everyday food item for sure (at least in my extended family).

See my first point, from what I've seen, once you get to a certain level of money in your family, it's no longer an "event food", it's more of a status food.
It's like having an Louis Vuitton bag, you don't just bring it out on bdays. You take it everywhere you go. And if you've got a couple? You absolutely cycle between them and will never be caught without one.


Culturally, I don't think this is something we can hope to change within this generation. Despite what I believe, it is still extremely insulting to my grandparents (especially in the presence of company) to refuse shark fin soup.
I think the hope lies within our current generation.
We can do our best to try and make it something that is unethical and shameful. My bro and I don't have it anymore with our parents.
I just hope that the shark populace can still be saved after the mass populace of china has done their damage.

Sandman 02-02-2011 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CKLCKL (Post 7290498)
No, sharks wont cause everything to die; in fact, they live off the oxygen from the photosynthesis caused by phytoplanktons.

:facepalm:

Sharks run the ocean. They oversee the populations, and without them all the plankton eaters in the ocean will over populate, and over feed...

Did I really have to spell that out for you?

Iceman_2K 02-02-2011 11:59 PM

you know that by outlawing or banning hunting that its going to just drive the price up and make it even more lucrative to get the sharks fin right? If its expensive now, just think of how much more expensive its going to be if it becomes illegal.

geeknerd 02-03-2011 01:02 AM

if it was actually a big ass problem to our world im sure we can mass clone them. we are even on our way to bringing back mammoths ....

geeknerd 02-03-2011 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Boobiemaster (Post 7290585)
:facepalm:

Sharks run the ocean. They oversee the populations, and without them all the plankton eaters in the ocean will over populate, and over feed...

Did I really have to spell that out for you?

could be the other way around. an overpopulation of planktons and we will have the cleanest o2 ever!


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