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6thGear. 03-17-2011 11:15 PM

OP. The owner of Chop Shop (Brad) tends to rub a lot of people the wrong way. But he's a good guy (he's a lot like Kevin from Bayside) No nonsense, no BS. If you grab a deal from him, run down there and cash in on it...don't wait. His prices are fair but he rarely budges on it though(his mentality is, if your not buying it, someone else will) His bikes have always been superb being a rebuilt bike. He has a business to protect, so he wouldn't be selling you a broken bike. He fixes or replaces every single part that is broken or damaged. Looking at Brad, he may look kinda shady, but he is far from it.



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Originally Posted by dogeatcookie (Post 7332543)
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leather suits have all armor under the leather, with the exception of knee pucks and some shoulder protection on certain suits. you should generally make sure that theres enough room inside for a spine protector (knox makes the best ones), as the foam pads that come with leather suits are pretty much useless.

Which 1 piece race suits are these? Everyone I have come across came with pucks and hard armor shoulder pads. But you are right about the foam back pads though.

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Originally Posted by blackjack101 (Post 7344348)
I know you have to have a helmet that has to have SNELL sticker.

But my main point is if its ok to buy a helmet from the states and use it in canada?


I think you are mistaken about the SNELL sticker, as it is the DOT sticker that has to be on the helmet.

But, to answer your question, we don't have any federal laws regarding helmets, so the government just follows the DOT regulation which is governed by the USA. Reason being is, we are too small of a market (population vs licensed riders) for manufacturers to spend millions of dollars for the Canadian government to do the required testing to slap a sticker onto helmets to be sold and worn here. This also goes for the coveted "CE-level"
regulation on safety impact gear. Just so you don't get confused, DOT is the USA governing agency that allows a certain helmet to be legal for use and SNELL is the world rating for helmets. North America abides by DOT and SNELL is not required but since a lot of the helmet manufacturers are worldwide, they also have to pass SNELL ratings, especially if they want to sell their helmets in Europe (which abide by SNELL and ECE)

You can buy the helmet from the states and use it up here, as long as the cop sitting behind you in traffic can see the DOT decal on the back of your helmet, you'll be fine.

Hope this helps

Culverin 03-17-2011 11:23 PM

fyi, some of the knox stuff and tech comes stock on other brands.
technic and rs taichi.

my rs taichi jacket has a knox back protector, but it's foam, does that make it worse? Cause the lower end model has a hard shell protector, but it's not knox.

taylor192 03-18-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 6thGear. (Post 7350045)
Reason being is, we are too small of a market (population vs licensed riders) for manufacturers to spend millions of dollars for the Canadian government to do the required testing to slap a sticker onto helmets to be sold and worn here.

Unfortunately BCCOM thinks otherwise. They put out a press release against helmet standards citing that without standards manufacturers will raise the bar and do better - without realizing most countries have a standard, and a bigger market than Canada, so this just won't happen.

Its a shame they are so hard headed (LOL maybe that's why they don't need helmets!) on this issue cause they've done so much other good for motorcycling in BC.

Jermyzy 03-18-2011 11:09 PM

^Yeah, I really don't understand why they fight the helmet issue so strongly! For that reason alone, it makes me question their values (in spite of all the other good stuff they've done)

6thGear. 03-19-2011 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Culverin (Post 7350060)
fyi, some of the knox stuff and tech comes stock on other brands.
technic and rs taichi.

my rs taichi jacket has a knox back protector, but it's foam, does that make it worse? Cause the lower end model has a hard shell protector, but it's not knox.

Your jacket with the knox insert is a CE1. I always reccomend an actual stand alone back protector, but for people that only want an insert, I would then suggest a CE one of sorts. The insides of the 824/826 jacket is of the same as the GMX jacket, (Liner, padding, back protecter, etc) so your jacket is still a very nice model. The hard shell protector is RS Taichi's own impact gear AKA "Tough Fics". Those are not CE certified, but RS Taichi feels those protectors don't need to be CE to be safe and they say it's designed to act like a secondary outer bone (exoskeleton) Downside on the hard shell is comfort, or should I say discomfort...doesn't bend, only conforms 1 way and 1 way only VS a softer CE Knox insert that is softer but conforms for comfort.


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Originally Posted by Jermyzy (Post 7351538)
^Yeah, I really don't understand why they fight the helmet issue so strongly! For that reason alone, it makes me question their values (in spite of all the other good stuff they've done)

Probably cause they want to keep their Beanies/Skull caps from being banned!

Tegra_Devil 10-09-2011 03:23 PM


need sauce on helmet

Excelsis 10-09-2011 03:41 PM

lol i was trying to find the same one and looked at icon's websites but didn't find anything..

parm104 10-09-2011 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha v2 (Post 7607399)
lol i was trying to find the same one and looked at icon's websites but didn't find anything..

That helmet looks like a dirt helmet. I also think he added a few accessories to his Halo 3 helmet to give it the spikes on the back and the iridium shield.

http://rideicon.com/product_details....=3427&id=12187

Tegra_Devil 10-10-2011 06:52 PM

looks pretty sick

Jas29 11-07-2011 11:03 PM

hey, I was wondering how much I would have to spend to get some decent gear to start up ie: gloves, boots, jacket, pants, a helmet and anything else I would need. Thanks for the help sorry if this is a question

blum2001 11-08-2011 10:07 AM

I got all my stuff at Modern on commercial.

Shift Textile jacket
Shoei RF1100 hemlet
Apinestar Gloves
think it was around $600-650 for my portion, but both my gf and I bought our gear at the same time so we go a better deal. Didn't need boots as I already had alpinestars boots.

Talk to Aaron and get him to do a 'combo' deal for you.

Jas29 11-08-2011 12:46 PM

sorry for thread jacking but does $5000 seem reasonable for gear, a bike, insurance and the prs course

Titanium1.8 11-08-2011 01:30 PM

The cheapest bike you would get without dealing with super old bike is a Honda CBR 125R. 0-115km/hr.

FS: 2008 Honda CBR125R CBR 125 125cc Red with luggage case

Culverin 11-08-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas29 (Post 7681532)
sorry for thread jacking but does $5000 seem reasonable for gear, a bike, insurance and the prs course

Well, it depends on what bike you get.

PRS course is fixed
Ditto with the test, and licensing fees.
I don't think you should be cheaping out on your gear. Pick what fits and what's well built and looks nice. You're not going to regret going to leathers. I'm not. I've only had 1 spill where I went down on my leather jacket, but better you've got it, than to wish you had it later.

Then insurance, and bike are truly the only things that are flexible...

Jas29 11-08-2011 02:01 PM

I will be trying to get the best gear i can not to concerned about the cost would rather be safe when i fall since i probably will seeing as how i have never ridden a motorcycle before.

Just didn't want to be surprised when i actually started looking and it being more expensive then i thought it would be.

thanks for all the help guys hopefully be ridding sometime next year

Culverin 11-09-2011 12:47 AM

I'm on 2 wheels now, but i'm on a scooter.

Here's how I'm budgeting everything.

$1100 for PRS and License and fees.
??? Insurance

Gearwise, I've probably spent about $1200 (before tax)
But I spent $450 and $200 on my jacket and gloves. Cheaped out with my pants and boots. I think you will be able to gear up properly with high end name brand gear for $1200+tax.

I think you can be $1000 easily pretty quality stuff. Modern offered me some good deals on a leather jacket around the $250 price range. And you could easily make due with $150 race gloves.

socialenemy69 11-09-2011 11:27 PM

Some of the best deals can be found on the Clearance racks. Lots of dealers have blowout sales and you can find some great stuff for over 50% off. Just show up early so you have a choice of all the sizes and colours.

CharlieH 11-10-2011 11:00 AM

or if you wait around january-ish, most online dealers will have blow out sales to clear out the inventory for next season's line up. i bought a new 1 piece last year for $1200 only to find out that a similarly priced alpinestars unit dropped from $1300 to $699 a month later. wanted to kick myself in the ass for that one /facepalm.

stereo12 11-11-2011 05:04 PM

Dec-Feb is a great time to buy, most of the 2011 stuff will be on sale as they make room for the 2012.

if Abbotsford isnt too far for you, head on to..

http://www.vancouvermotorcycleshow.ca/

you will find quite a few retailers there and you can try on a bunch of stuff too.

sit on a few bikes and get a good feel for the right type of bike for u.

lotsa chicks there too =)

Gwilo 11-15-2011 03:04 PM

Also go check out Rubber Side Down website ther are some good deals thier.
Posted via RS Mobile

BillyBishop 03-17-2012 08:23 PM

If anyone's looking for Alpinestar deals, check this out.

Get Your Motorcycle Accessories , Motorcycle Helmets , and Motorcross GEAR at The Iron Pony!

I just bought the GP-X gloves.

areyez 06-23-2012 08:17 PM

what do you guys think of the icon alliance shakki helmet?

gdoh 06-23-2012 08:40 PM

looks and feels good i actually tried one on today while seeing some sizing and how they are supposed to fit. im actually planning on buying that helmet.

check out revzilla for the product review and other reviews as well

areyez 06-23-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gdoh (Post 7956774)
looks and feels good i actually tried one on today while seeing some sizing and how they are supposed to fit. im actually planning on buying that helmet.

check out revzilla for the product review and other reviews as well

yea i already checked out revzilla...im leaning towards this helmet aswell

gdoh 06-23-2012 09:26 PM

go to your local store and check them out in person.


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