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06-29-2011, 09:26 PM
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06-29-2011, 09:44 PM
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Here is the response from AERA. (Automotive Engine Rebuilders Association)
It would appear from the photos observed that this engine is allow oil to get by the piston rings into the combustion chamber, there can be some things altering the ring seal ability if there is an ineffective PCV system or an exhaust restriction trying to “push” air back through the intake system, which ends up pressurizing the crankcase impeding the rings ability to seal against the cylinder wall.
If the reasons for original engine removal included excessive oil consumption, they’ve yet to find the original problem.
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This was forwarded to Edward on the 13 April.
The email i sent to Edward:
Edward,
Refinish a cylinder head locally from CC Racing is 9.75per guide + the price of the guide itself.
Now after replacing the guides would need valve seat cutting which is 8.50ea.
Me and CC Racing both think the best would be getting the head there and have them check it.
Afterall, I want to get this cylinder head issue resolved asap.
This email was also sent to Edward on the 13 April.
I never heard back from him for any updates until this was brought to my attention. Its been 2.5 months since we talked, I was expecting an update sooner.
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06-29-2011, 09:44 PM
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So, what are the plans for the engine now?
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06-29-2011, 09:51 PM
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06-29-2011, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Iron Chef  The response i got was that they believe there was contamination that had gotten into the cylinders from either running engine without and air filter or there was contamination in the intake manifold or unsanitary conditions and that neither David or the Machine shop is going to Accept responsibility for this. | Now I know what happened. You tried to do extrude honing of your intake manifold by pouring sand into a running engine.  | |
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06-29-2011, 10:02 PM
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bet he ignored " warning danger to manifold" on his laptop.. and now the mad scientists have to replace the piston rings he fried.  Posted via RS Mobile | |
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06-29-2011, 10:13 PM
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After speaking to David and confirming both him and the machine shop weren't going to accept any responsibility i felt that there was no reason to give him any more updates. The cylinder head is a moot point at this time since the block will need to be removed and at the very least honed and re-ringed. Its the least of my worries.
Sending the head back there after seeing there work was an unacceptable. I wouldn't let them rebuild my lawnmower.
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06-29-2011, 10:55 PM
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I can only speak as an observer with limited mechanical knowledge but if what you say is true then that is a pretty bad way of doing business on their part.
Will definitely remember this and pass it on to others.
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06-29-2011, 11:26 PM
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#209 | | My homepage has been set to RS
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So every single cylinder wall is scored along the whole circumference of each cylinder wall and Cylinder 4 being the worst. Immediately e-mailed David the pictures and forward them to the machine shop because i would like an explanation of how this could happen.
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| It can also happen from you bagging the shit out of the car before letting it warm up. My bet is that's what happened,. 
There are PLENTY of local machine shops that can fix your problems. Take it to Alecs.
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06-30-2011, 01:10 AM
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#210 | | I don't get it
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Originally Posted by Iron Chef After speaking to David and confirming both him and the machine shop weren't going to accept any responsibility i felt that there was no reason to give him any more updates. The cylinder head is a moot point at this time since the block will need to be removed and at the very least honed and re-ringed. Its the least of my worries.
Sending the head back there after seeing there work was an unacceptable. I wouldn't let them rebuild my lawnmower. | So whatever happened to you taking the cylinder head off and taking it to a LOCAL machine shop of YOUR choice? Isn't CC Racing a machine shop in Richmond, B.C.? Nobody ever said anything about sending the head back to Winnipeg.
Is your lawn mower also chipped and not broken in properly?
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06-30-2011, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dangonay Now I know what happened. You tried to do extrude honing of your intake manifold by pouring sand into a running engine. | LOL classic!
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06-30-2011, 07:46 PM
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So explain to me why my block on the first rebuild, went 15000km with no damage to any of my cylinder walls and the second one only went 1500km and everyone is scored to hell. Quote:
Originally Posted by falcon It can also happen from you bagging the shit out of the car before letting it warm up. My bet is that's what happened,.
There are PLENTY of local machine shops that can fix your problems. Take it to Alecs. | | |
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07-01-2011, 01:07 AM
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You didn't break the motor in properly the second time around.
Doesn't sound like you are denying it.... hmmmmm
It looks like harsh piston slap going on. Loose bore + not letting the car warm up (piston is not expanded fully) and when you bag on it, the piston flops around in the bore. Common problem for racer boyz who want to hit v-tach right out of the garage. What kind of pistons are in it? What is the piston/wall clearance?
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07-01-2011, 09:45 AM
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^ You do know Iron Chef is a Red Seal licensed mechanic who has rebuilt lots of engines for customers over the years. I would think he understands why you don't 'bag' on a cold engine.
Perhaps the reason he never responded is because you're asking him something which is as obvious as 2+2=4. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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07-01-2011, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dangonay ^ You do know Iron Chef is a Red Seal licensed mechanic who has rebuilt lots of engines for customers over the years. I would think he understands why you don't 'bag' on a cold engine.
Perhaps the reason he never responded is because you're asking him something which is as obvious as 2+2=4. Posted via RS Mobile | I heard he tried to set the shop on fire too.
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07-01-2011, 10:33 AM
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All you bench racers and wannabe engine builders responses are classic. How many engines have you broken in? You do know there are several ways to break in a motor right? All them are valid and work.
Berz out.
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07-01-2011, 10:44 AM
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Sending the head back there after seeing there work was an unacceptable. I wouldn't let them rebuild my lawnmower.
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07-01-2011, 01:30 PM
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#218 | | My dinner reheated before my turbo spooled
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07-01-2011, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Synapz I heard he tried to set the shop on fire too. | wow, this is getting nasty!
David is not the best at customer service, but I never really had any problems with the work David at EVO did. Overall he knows his shit and gets the job done!
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07-01-2011, 07:02 PM
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#220 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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07-01-2011, 08:31 PM
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some of the responses in the thread are amusing.
i love internet mechanics..they have all the answers...........
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07-01-2011, 10:03 PM
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Meh. I've had very good service w/ Evogarage. This thread does not faze me in any way in returning to them for business.
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07-01-2011, 11:20 PM
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#223 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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^ i get what you're saying, but when things are goin according to plan obviously the shop is gonna be good to you... it's when something goes wrong that's when they really show their true colors, kinda like that high school friend you thought was a good buddy, until a girl comes in the picture and he goes faggot mode
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07-01-2011, 11:39 PM
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so the guy turns into a faggot and you get the girl? | |
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07-02-2011, 12:34 AM
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