If money was no object and you were tasked with building..

[chris_89T]

I may be partially biased, but for me it would be:

Discovery Automotive built S62.

http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...motive-622-whp

[asahai69]

pfft. 4L max................

[Muskys SS]

Originally Posted by dangonay

I'd love to see any Skyline or Supra get 800HP for only $15K and be anywhere near as reliable.

Building a rock solid 800hp 2jz is quite simple and it can be done for $15k or less, although it would need meth injection for around 25psi. Stock Bottom end... $1500, Upgraded Head.... $4000 or (fully built Longblock... $8000), 67mm< turbo setup.... $5000, Engine management... $2000
And then if you want put in some race gas and go for 1000hp. I wonder if that 800hp 520ci is a pumpgas engine.

[dangonay]

^ I'm sorry, but that's a pretty weak list. In my experience the cost to put together an engine is significantly more than just the cost of the parts/kits by themselves.

- Does that price include the injectors?
- Does it include an intercooler? All the necessary tubing/fittings for the intercooler? Labour to install the intercooler?
- You mentioned a meth kit. How much extra is that kit? And how much labour is required to install it? And does it require any additional setup/tuning, or does it just "work" once you turn it on?
- Does that include dyno time to tune the engine? Or is the engine management ready to go and only needs to be plugged in and turned on?
- Does that include labour to put the engine together? What about gaskets, seals and all the other little things you'll use when assembling the engine?

Perhaps a better question would be this:

If I came to you with a stock Supra and $15K (before taxes) am I going to leave with a fully built Supra engine (meaning everything from the crank to rods/pistons to valvetrain is 100% brand new) that's been fully-assembled and dyno-proven to produce 800HP and can be dropped into my car without requiring any additional components?

[ajax]

Originally Posted by asahai69

pfft. 4L max................

Nothing sounds better than a done up 454/427/426.

[asahai69]

Originally Posted by Muskys SS

I wonder if that 800hp 520ci is a pumpgas engine.

820hp on pump gas.


http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/e...-racing-engine


check out their other engines aswell. fuken ridiculous

Originally Posted by ajax

Nothing sounds better than a done up 454/427/426.

imo. V8s are the best sounding engines

[Mancini]

The displacement limit should be revised. Presumably, you don't want a gigantic, heavy motor.

I'd bet that a LSx series motor is not substantially heavier, or larger, than the 4.0 in the M3. The "old" pushrod technology that's so maligned among import enthusiasts also allows for a very compact design. They don't need to compete on specific output alone.

I'd also go NA. More than enough power for me.

[Birchum]

Originally Posted by white_guilt

the displacement limit will be set at 4 liters.

Why i thought money was no object.

[Muskys SS]

Originally Posted by dangonay

^ I'm sorry, but that's a pretty weak list. In my experience the cost to put together an engine is significantly more than just the cost of the parts/kits by themselves.

- Does that price include the injectors?
- Does it include an intercooler? All the necessary tubing/fittings for the intercooler? Labour to install the intercooler?
- You mentioned a meth kit. How much extra is that kit? And how much labour is required to install it? And does it require any additional setup/tuning, or does it just "work" once you turn it on?
- Does that include dyno time to tune the engine? Or is the engine management ready to go and only needs to be plugged in and turned on?
- Does that include labour to put the engine together? What about gaskets, seals and all the other little things you'll use when assembling the engine?

Perhaps a better question would be this:

If I came to you with a stock Supra and $15K (before taxes) am I going to leave with a fully built Supra engine (meaning everything from the crank to rods/pistons to valvetrain is 100% brand new) that's been fully-assembled and dyno-proven to produce 800HP and can be dropped into my car without requiring any additional components?

Yeah I know what your saying. I'm a sucker for a big block too, I'm not just an import guy. But you were only talking about the engine alone. There would be a lot of work that needs to be done to put that 520 in as well. Headers, Radiator, cooling fans, fuel system, modified mounts/crossmember depending on the car, then add labour for all that plus re/re.

Actually we've done a build like that on a stock 2jz before for under $15000 installed.
These figures are close because customer supplied some parts, but comparable to other kits

Single Turbo kit including piping and intercooler.... $6000
Fuel system upgrades.... $1200
Cams.... $1000
Engine Management...... $2000
Meth Kit..... $450
Installed and Tuned ...... $4000

Thats $14650.
Car made 590rwhp on our dyno which is around 785hp at the crank and is driven daily. I doubt the Kasse Engine would be a comfortable daily driver.

[atb]

2jz-ge, dry sump, 13:1 compression, triple sidedraft webers, bigass cams

fuck turbos