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Energy 11-27-2011 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by .Renn.Sport (Post 7705817)
I change cars faster than you changing your dirty under wear

I also happened to ordered a Panamera GTS, GT3 RS 4.0, Still thinking if I should get the upgraded 2012 GTR

I should be getting at least 4 new cars in the 1/4 of 2012
Not sure if sarcastic :pokerface:

donjalapeno 11-27-2011 07:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .Renn.Sport (Post 7705817)
I change cars faster than you changing your dirty under wear

I also happened to ordered a Panamera GTS, GT3 RS 4.0, Still thinking if I should get the upgraded 2012 GTR

I should be getting at least 4 new cars in the 1/4 of 2012
:pokerface:


yeah im getting a Aventador, LFA , Maybach 57s, Quattroporte sport , special order Q7 with the W12 bentley engine and Buggati Veyron SS....but i cant take a picture of them for a reason i cannot say on the internet.

AND I EXPECT EVERYONE TO BELIEVE ME.

bcrdukes 11-27-2011 07:21 PM
^
Judging by your location, Northern Africa, I don't think that's very credible. :troll:

hk20000 11-27-2011 07:40 PM
all the media is really hyped about this. I can't see why. At least 2 sources (road and track and WebCG) say you'd feel "something different" within the first few hundred yards of driving this car.

I'll drive before I would agree/disagree with them.

WebCG

LOL @ the tofu shop AE86 used in the official presentation.

death_blossom 11-27-2011 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 7705349)
Not sure why everybody is doubting this car.

The original AE86 was never fast but it has a capability of out-handling so many other cars. The chassis was rigid and perfect for drifting or track racing. And that 4A-GE's redline isn't exactly low. It's quite up there. If you don't drive the car beyond 3000rpm, you should have no say.

And let's not forget cars like the Toyota MR-S. People think it's slow (yeah it sort of is) but will outhandle most of your cars and its braking abilities are amazing. Throw in a 2ZZ-GE and you've got some competition with other cars in its class.

Oh yeah, everybody laughed at the Miata. Everybody is jumping on the bandwagon buying one now. Every other car or two at AutoX is now a Miata. :rolleyes:
can't agree with you more. this car is all about bringing back the raw driving feel that has been numbed down in most modern cars today.

everyone is prefering the Hyundai Genesis coupe, which is bigger and heavier. this FT86 is gonna run circles around the Genesis coupe on the track and in the twisties.

Energy 11-27-2011 08:03 PM
^ my thoughts exactly. I can't wait to see and drive this car for myself. Its a step in the right direction for Toyota that's for sure.

The_AK 11-27-2011 08:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .Renn.Sport (Post 7705817)
I change cars faster than you changing your dirty under wear

I also happened to ordered a Panamera GTS, GT3 RS 4.0, Still thinking if I should get the upgraded 2012 GTR

I should be getting at least 4 new cars in the 1/4 of 2012
Have you considered a Juke-R? Its hideous and that's what makes it beautiful. I have Nissan custom building me a Juke-R Spec V at the moment. Estimated to do Nurburgring in 7:50 but I'm pushing them to go faster.

!e.lo_ 11-27-2011 09:50 PM
this rear over production model
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/5...ceptstudio.jpg

hk20000 11-27-2011 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by !e.lo_ (Post 7706116)
Maaaaybe the FR-S package has this rear. :fuckyea: But don't hold your breath on it. :pokerface:

Stealthy 11-27-2011 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 7705737)
It'll be coming to the US as Scion FR-S
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/325719.jpg
If it had this rear instead of the production model it would be way better, but that's my two pesos.
It's like an LF-A had a kid, and this was the adopted brother.

Nlkko 11-27-2011 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hk20000 (Post 7706133)
But don't hold your breath on it. :pokerface:
The European usually get better looking version with cooler gadgets.

rJZx 11-27-2011 10:13 PM
So far this seems like the 7th celica... looks faster than it actually is

Ikkaku 11-27-2011 10:19 PM
^ do you not read people's posts? its a track car, it is supposed to have a good balance. We are not talking about a horsepower war.

rJZx 11-27-2011 11:44 PM
^I have been keeping up... i was just talking about the power this car will come out with.

Timpo 11-27-2011 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ilmatic (Post 7706259)
^I have been keeping up... i was just talking about the power this car will come out with.
197hp/151lb-ft

Toyota GT 86 (Scion FR-S) Makes Debut: 2011 Tokyo Motor Show

Culture_Vulture 11-27-2011 11:54 PM
after the first page, I've only been revisiting this thread for hyde

death_blossom 11-28-2011 12:26 AM
I have a good feeling that Toyota is dialing back the engine program to a very safe zone, resulting in the modest hp levels.

I'm betting that ECU tuning will help to unlock a lot more power in stock form. I read somewhere that the engine management used is a common system that is already modifiable by aftermarket tuners.

bcrdukes 11-28-2011 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by death_blossom (Post 7706292)
I have a good feeling that Toyota is dialing back the engine program to a very safe zone, resulting in the modest hp levels.

I'm betting that ECU tuning will help to unlock a lot more power in stock form. I read somewhere that the engine management used is a common system that is already modifiable by aftermarket tuners.
Better be Motec or something cool! :buttrock:

And it better not have a stupid AFM! :mad:

hk20000 11-28-2011 12:31 AM
if it's a Subaru system it's probably doing a MAF.

but then it's also a D4S which means it's got 8 injectors for 4 cylinders.

I doubt there is much aftermarket support at this time right now for this. Just look at the IS350....Chip tune? What chip tune.

BoredAtWork 11-28-2011 01:13 AM
Why it looks wrong? Here's my 2 cents.

The wheels on this thing looks like it uses offset from a corolla / civic. The dead giveaway is the navy one with BBS FR with rear flares as big as this one, and uses high offset wheels and looks like same width front and rear, you tell me whats wrong.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...16312455_n.jpg

Next is the proportions. looks bloated except for the front. The sides, and the way the rear fenders and rock panels are very 350z like (again, bloated). Looks like a fat chick with a mean Halloween mask.

If they trim up the sides and the rear with more edge lines like the front, it may look more like a 2800 lb car. But then will look too close to the LF-A. The length of the car don't look proportional to me. Need to shorten the wheelbase a 2-3 inches from the rear, and cut the rear overhangs. Its a coupe with a hatchback pen line like the Celica was.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-84jsU8JFz0...-side-view.jpg

http://www.wreckedmagazine.com/blog/...e_-525x350.jpg

Zyzz 11-28-2011 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by death_blossom (Post 7705951)
can't agree with you more. this car is all about bringing back the raw driving feel that has been numbed down in most modern cars today.

everyone is prefering the Hyundai Genesis coupe, which is bigger and heavier. this FT86 is gonna run circles around the Genesis coupe on the track and in the twisties.
that is such a pile of crap

seems like every excuse around low HP cars revolve around 'better handling'. Well shit, of course it handles better, because it is so slow there is no chance for it to go off track.

Hell, even my gf made fun of 180 hp cars on tv commercials back then like 10+ years ago.

Im going to enjoy my 500+ hp cars while you enjoy 200 hp cars. I am gonna be the first one that say it, that doesn't even make any sense.

StylinRed 11-28-2011 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ilmatic (Post 7706155)
So far this seems like the 7th celica... looks faster than it actually is
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilmatic (Post 7706259)
^I have been keeping up... i was just talking about the power this car will come out with.
whats odd is its only got 17more HP than the GTS celica.... :crazy2: and that came out like 12 years ago (2000) with great handling too; the JDM GTS had like 195HP (higher octane fuels and ecu differences or something)



i was expecting more too

falcon 11-28-2011 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EmperorIS (Post 7704920)
the entire design team in toyota and honda needs to be shot
Did you mean to say Toyota adn Subaru?

falcon 11-28-2011 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Timpo (Post 7705193)
2.0L turbo and only 200hp? fuck that shit.

Honda had 220hp with 2.0L NA engine more than a decade ago.
or 250hp out of 2.0L NA for S2000 back in 1999.

Also Nissan Silvia had 250hp out of 2.0L too...it was way more than a decade a go. Like 15 years ago??

It needs at least 300hp for today's standard.
It's N/A.

Looking forward to seeing some STI motor swaps into this thing :D

hk20000 11-28-2011 07:22 AM
What bothers me is that toyota kept saying owners will mod it so we made it easier to mod than most. Well eff that there are lazy but rich people out there when it comes to cars. If the sti motor is supposed to go in without much sweat why don't you sell us one with it then!?
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