Vancouver Auto Chat 2016 VAC Community Head Moderator: Raid3n | | |
11-28-2011, 05:00 PM
|
#301 | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CELICAland
Posts: 25,667
Thanked 10,387 Times in 3,913 Posts
Failed 1,390 Times in 625 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by insomniatic | its the same size as the 370z and they look similar |
| |
11-28-2011, 05:00 PM
|
#302 | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 5,065
Thanked 180 Times in 96 Posts
Failed 23 Times in 10 Posts
|
^
yup, taken from the other FT-86 thread. I know I mentioned it once already, but I'll say it again: it is only 1 inch longer than the original AE86!
|
| |
11-28-2011, 05:55 PM
|
#303 | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ...
Posts: 20,300
Thanked 4,525 Times in 1,357 Posts
Failed 4,505 Times in 971 Posts
|
ok this is weird..
According to the chief engineer of Toyota 86, Tetsuya Tada, they were trying to avoid "high power turbo", "4WD" and "high performance tires"
why would you wanna avoid high performance tires?
|
| |
11-28-2011, 05:59 PM
|
#304 | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ...
Posts: 20,300
Thanked 4,525 Times in 1,357 Posts
Failed 4,505 Times in 971 Posts
|
I know people are saying Genesis Coupe is too big...but I'm curious how fast does this thing actually go...
0-60mph accelration?
top speed?
skid pad?
60-0mph braking?
Nurburgring laptime?
etc...
|
| |
11-28-2011, 07:10 PM
|
#305 | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 22,110
Thanked 9,871 Times in 3,926 Posts
Failed 881 Times in 421 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by StylinRed its the same size as the 370z and they look similar | 370z is shorter than the Gen coupe?
now that i think about it...is the 370z smaller than the 350z?
|
| |
11-28-2011, 07:15 PM
|
#306 | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ...
Posts: 20,300
Thanked 4,525 Times in 1,357 Posts
Failed 4,505 Times in 971 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by twitchyzero 370z is shorter than the Gen coupe?
now that i think about it...is the 370z smaller than the 350z? | yea, 370Z is smaller and lighter...except it's a bit wider,..but 370Z got smaller, lighter, bigger engine, better handling, better materials, and cheaper
|
| |
11-28-2011, 07:18 PM
|
#307 | I help report spam so I got this! <--
Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,867
Thanked 1,215 Times in 535 Posts
Failed 275 Times in 114 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Timpo ok this is weird..
According to the chief engineer of Toyota 86, Tetsuya Tada, they were trying to avoid "high power turbo", "4WD" and "high performance tires"
why would you wanna avoid high performance tires? | Source Quote:
But the key facets of an 1180kg kerb weight, rear-wheel drive, ESP that can be fully turned off, quick steering and a limited-slip differential make it a riot in the twisty stuff. Also, the tyres are the same 17in low-resistance versions as can be found on a Prius, all the better to make sure their grip can be overcome if the mood takes you.
| Also 0-60 is said to be 7 seconds. First drive Quote:
Taking off on our allotted three test laps of the short course at Fuji speedway in Japan, we are delighted to hear and feel a strong Subaru flavour burbling its way through the cabin. Its naturally aspirated four-cylinder engine delivers lots of torque through the bottom to mid-range but could use a bit more punch at the top end. The GT 86 feels light but planted on the tarmac, and its ride is firm but not harsh. Turn-in is sharp and pinpoint and body roll minimal given the engine’s low centre of gravity. Grip levels are higher than expected with a slight tendency to understeer.
Developed to be a reasonably priced sports coupe with serious ‘drifting’ and racing capabilities, we decide to switch off the VSC and traction control units and see what happens. After dabbing the firm disc brakes to tuck the nose into a tight left-hander while holding 5,000rpm in 2nd, the initial hint of understeer is replaced by a welcome serve of tail action that requires an instant dose of opposite lock to control the slide. But given our very limited time in the car, we will reserve judgment on the car’s overall balance and whether a drift can be held for any length of time.
Toyota went on today about their (and Subaru’s) decision to build a lightweight sports car that avoided AWD, turbos and high grip tyres. The end result is a stunning first step, that’s for sure. This car is a blast to drive and will without doubt inject some much-needed adrenalin to a lacklustre lineup. But we can’t help think that enthusiasts and tuners around the world will want more power – and very soon - leading to bolted on turbos because the GT86’s. Why? Because the chassis can certainly take it.
| |
| |
11-28-2011, 11:31 PM
|
#308 | Banned (ABWS)
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kits/Richmond
Posts: 4,409
Thanked 1,105 Times in 540 Posts
Failed 555 Times in 222 Posts
|
Edit, wrong forum
Last edited by taylor192; 11-28-2011 at 11:37 PM.
|
| |
11-29-2011, 12:09 AM
|
#309 | RS controls my life!
Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Langley
Posts: 797
Thanked 1,466 Times in 190 Posts
Failed 141 Times in 24 Posts
|
Subaru BRZ looks the same... |
| |
11-29-2011, 05:39 AM
|
#310 | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: RevScene.net
Posts: 1,889
Thanked 1,284 Times in 420 Posts
Failed 238 Times in 105 Posts
|
Does anyone know why the Honda CR-Z arrived North America as a 2 seater model...while it's 4 seats in JDM? Was it because of safety regulations?
Maybe this would be a problem for the 86 / BRZ too
CR-Z in Japan:
CRZ-Z in Canada:
Interior shots of the 86:
Obviously no one buys a sport coupe this size for rear passenger comfort.
But from the looks of those photos.....unless your front driver / passenger
is super short, it doesn't even look like its possible to sit someone in the back.......
|
| |
11-29-2011, 06:12 AM
|
#311 | My homepage has been set to RS
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,476
Thanked 319 Times in 125 Posts
Failed 120 Times in 25 Posts
|
Toyota
Subaru
Toyota
Subaru
hmm... |
| |
11-29-2011, 10:28 AM
|
#312 | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ...
Posts: 20,300
Thanked 4,525 Times in 1,357 Posts
Failed 4,505 Times in 971 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky_High Does anyone know why the Honda CR-Z arrived North America as a 2 seater model...while it's 4 seats in JDM? Was it because of safety regulations?
Maybe this would be a problem for the 86 / BRZ too
CR-Z in Japan:
CRZ-Z in Canada:
Interior shots of the 86:
Obviously no one buys a sport coupe this size for rear passenger comfort.
But from the looks of those photos.....unless your front driver / passenger
is super short, it doesn't even look like its possible to sit someone in the back....... | Not only CRZ...
But RX-7 and CRX as well.
The 300ZX twin turbo was only available as a 2 seater in north america.
(you could buy NA 4 seater for some reason)
I heard it's something to do with insurance.
Japan will get lower insurance rate if the car is "4 seater" and also don't have to pay gas guzzler tax (wasting gas on 2 seater car).
But this info can be completely wrong.
|
| |
11-29-2011, 11:51 AM
|
#313 | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: RevScene.net
Posts: 1,889
Thanked 1,284 Times in 420 Posts
Failed 238 Times in 105 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Timpo Not only CRZ...
But RX-7 and CRX as well.
The 300ZX twin turbo was only available as a 2 seater in north america.
(you could buy NA 4 seater for some reason)
I heard it's something to do with insurance.
Japan will get lower insurance rate if the car is "4 seater" and also don't have to pay gas guzzler tax (wasting gas on 2 seater car).
But this info can be completely wrong. | Might be cause of insurance in the JDM world.
But in North America....I think it's a mixture of the crammed space
for "NA sized people" and more importantly....crash safety standards?
As tight as those two seats are back then, I really hope they do bring a 4 seater over...
|
| |
11-29-2011, 11:58 AM
|
#314 | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ...
Posts: 20,300
Thanked 4,525 Times in 1,357 Posts
Failed 4,505 Times in 971 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky_High Might be cause of insurance in the JDM world.
But in North America....I think it's a mixture of the crammed space
for "NA sized people" and more importantly....crash safety standards?
As tight as those two seats are back then, I really hope they do bring a 4 seater over... | I doubt it has nothing to do with crash safety standards...
Look at Lexus SC430, Porsche 911, etc...you can only fit little 5 year old kids in and that's about it.
|
| |
11-29-2011, 02:38 PM
|
#315 | Unofficial Tin Foil Hat Specialist.
Join Date: May 2008 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 8,150
Thanked 1,529 Times in 604 Posts
Failed 326 Times in 125 Posts
|
^ I guess Murdoc has a new vehicle in mind for purchase when he sells that white van of his. |
| |
11-29-2011, 03:18 PM
|
#316 | Ask me about how I answered the question "How fat is TOO fat?"
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver
Posts: 8,135
Thanked 4,146 Times in 1,143 Posts
Failed 1,392 Times in 247 Posts
|
I might have missed this but is pricing out somewhere?
__________________
I'm so stance my roof rack got a roof rack
░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░ Current
e92 335i 6MT FBO
e90 330i 6MT Former
e46 330ci 5MT - RIP
uc1 5AT
em2 5MT
db7 5AT - RIP Quote:
Originally Posted by toyota86 the guys over at lambo vancouver said there are 60-70 pre-orders already. don't quote me though. | |
| |
11-29-2011, 09:12 PM
|
#317 | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 5,065
Thanked 180 Times in 96 Posts
Failed 23 Times in 10 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Timpo I doubt it has nothing to do with crash safety standards...
Look at Lexus SC430, Porsche 911, etc...you can only fit little 5 year old kids in and that's about it. | not sure about the SC430, but in the Porsche 911 girls and shorter guys can fit in the back seat (albeit snugly).
it's all about the sizing of the individuals in the front seat. I'm sure the CR-Z has 2 "dog" seats in the back since Japanese ppl are much smaller. the front occupants don't need to crank the seat all the way back, leaving more leg room for the rear passengers.
not sure why, but North Americans (short or tall) LOOOOVE to slam their seats wayyy back. I'm a pretty big guy at 6ft and 200lbs+, yet I was taught to sit closer to the steering wheel when young. many ppl comment that I sit so close to the steering wheel. sounds funny coming from them, when they are a lot smaller than I am.
|
| |
11-29-2011, 09:50 PM
|
#318 | RS Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: GTA
Posts: 29,869
Thanked 11,549 Times in 4,722 Posts
Failed 440 Times in 282 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by death_blossom not sure why, but North Americans (short or tall) LOOOOVE to slam their seats wayyy back. | *sarcasm* It's all about the gangsta' lean acting like we hot shit in our dad's TLs and G35s. *sarcasm*
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS I literally do not plan on buying another vehicle in my lifetime, assuming it doesn't get written off. | |
| |
11-30-2011, 12:45 AM
|
#319 | :: Sells McLarens, Not tofu :okay: ::
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: vancouver
Posts: 10,755
Thanked 11,826 Times in 3,334 Posts
Failed 211 Times in 89 Posts
|
wonder how'd it look like with a set of these...?
*IF* takumi ever does crash the 86 in the catalogue... would this be his new car?
__________________
13' Nissan DBA-R35 GT-R Black Ed - Black met. - "Sophia"
90' Honda EF Civic HB // 04' Honda Pilot Granite
- The Drinker of Many Many Coffees @ McLaren Vancouver
|
| |
11-30-2011, 01:59 AM
|
#320 | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond
Posts: 8,645
Thanked 1,357 Times in 508 Posts
Failed 229 Times in 105 Posts
|
^ I would think an AE86 vs GT86 would make a very appropriate end to that epic tale of an 18 year old delivery boy.
__________________ ⇐ If I bothered replying, that's the face I made while I typed. - 2017 Alfa Romeo Giula Q4
- 1999 Nissan Stagea 260RS 1 of 748
- 1998 Nissan Laurel Medallion Club S drift boi
- 1991 Lexus LS400 mint boi
- 1989 Nissan S-Cargo cute boi
|
| |
11-30-2011, 02:16 AM
|
#321 | Banned (ABWS)
Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mid-levels, HK
Posts: 913
Thanked 1,336 Times in 198 Posts
Failed 1,266 Times in 145 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by tofu1413 *IF* takumi ever does crash the 86 in the catalogue... would this be his new car? | No... he would be dead because the car is such an old unsafe jap car
|
| |
11-30-2011, 02:45 AM
|
#322 | My AFC gave me an ABS CEL code of LOL while at WOT!
Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: RevScene.net
Posts: 1,889
Thanked 1,284 Times in 420 Posts
Failed 238 Times in 105 Posts
| |
| |
11-30-2011, 03:58 AM
|
#323 | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond
Posts: 8,645
Thanked 1,357 Times in 508 Posts
Failed 229 Times in 105 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky_High | Let's hope that's with the front seat slid all the way to the back....
__________________ ⇐ If I bothered replying, that's the face I made while I typed. - 2017 Alfa Romeo Giula Q4
- 1999 Nissan Stagea 260RS 1 of 748
- 1998 Nissan Laurel Medallion Club S drift boi
- 1991 Lexus LS400 mint boi
- 1989 Nissan S-Cargo cute boi
|
| |
11-30-2011, 09:54 AM
|
#324 | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ...
Posts: 20,300
Thanked 4,525 Times in 1,357 Posts
Failed 4,505 Times in 971 Posts
| Quote:
Originally Posted by hk20000 Let's hope that's with the front seat slid all the way to the back.... | watch this video..he said the Subaru BRZ will be a "2 seater" 2013 Subaru BRZ Revealed: 2011 Tokyo Motor Show |
| |
11-30-2011, 10:00 AM
|
#325 | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ...
Posts: 20,300
Thanked 4,525 Times in 1,357 Posts
Failed 4,505 Times in 971 Posts
|
If it's gonna be a 2 seater, I don't know how well it will sell...
It's not like a Viper, Corvette, 370Z, NSX, etc...or S2000 and Miata.
Although the car is RWD, the size, power and the way it looks look like a it's something similar to RSX, Celica, Cobalt, Tiburon, etc...
|
| | | |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:53 AM. |