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Old 12-02-2011, 12:39 AM   #351
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It's 2600lbs numbnuts.





Do you literally shit out of your mouth? Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, thinks you're going to buy a Panamera, a GT3, a GTR and then "ooh get excited about the toyota 86 and order the first one!" ... You're fucking retarded stop posting.
FYI, I already have a Panamera and GT3RS, I'm just upgrading them

I'll probably just drive the 86 for a month and sell it.

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Basically, the GT86 comes with a Datalogger that will allow you to transfer data into your PS3.
It does playbacks and stuff.

Meaning: It's useless in Vancouver.

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we should plan out the richmond circuit.


2Fast 2Furious style.

then do the bridge thing too..
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Old 12-02-2011, 01:43 AM   #354
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FYI, I already have a Panamera and GT3RS, I'm just upgrading them

I'll probably just drive the 86 for a month and sell it.

Problem?
Why bother selling it?

Thought you're rich, no? Just crash it into a pole.
Or drive it into the ocean.



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Old 12-02-2011, 01:59 AM   #355
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i just hope they dont do what they did with the celica etc where they rip out all the neat stuff to bring the price down in NA
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I hope they do. Give me a bare bones, no AC, no power windows, no sunroof, no power locks, no power anything and I'll buy one.
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^Toyota reportedly have a tuner version of the 86 with none of the above and unpainted front bumper.

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Supercharged Toyota 86 being developed by TRD

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Toyota is already hard at work evaluating a high performance version of the new Toyota GT 86 sporting coupe. Chief engineer Tetsuo Tada says that not only is a supercharged GT 86 envisaged, test cars have already been made and are being evaluated by Toyota Racing Developments, the Japanese giant’s in house tuning division.
Tada-san favours the supercharger approach because it is simpler to achieve than increasing engine size and doesn’t wreck throttle response as turbocharging might. Indeed Toyota says that turbocharging along with four-wheel drive and wide tyres are what make sports cars boring to drive.

Supercharging is also a key competence for TRD which has been offering this kind of forced induction as an aftermarket kit for Toyotas since 1998. He would not be drawn on what kind of power a supercharged GT 86 might develop but Toyota is known to consider the car’s chassis could easily handle an additional 50bhp to go with the 197bhp already generated by its Subaru 2-litre flat four motor, a view with which, having driven the car, we wholly concur. However he says the TRD is also looking at ways of modifying the suspension to cope with the extra power, raising the possibility of a still more substantial power hike.

TRD’s most popular supercharger conversion is applied to the American market Tacoma pick up, boosting its 4-litre V6 engine from 233bhp to 301bhp suggesting that a 280bhp GT 86 with, critically, a massive boost in the low down torque the car currently lacks would be easily achieved. Even in the unlikely event that all the modifications added 100kg to the weight of the car, its power to weight ratio would still at least equal that of the 326bhp Nissan 370Z, a car capable of hitting 62mph from rest in 5.3sec and recording a top speed of 155mph. The standard GT 86 needs around 6.8sec and does 143mph. It is not yet known whether, if approved, the supercharged GT 86 would be offered as an aftermarket pack or as a model in its own right.
Tada also confirmed that it was so important to his team that even the standard GT 86 drifted properly that special tests were incorporated into the car’s development programme specifically for this purpose, ‘the first time this has ever been done on any Toyota.
The package is rumored to be in the 5 digit price. Probably an overpriced rebadge unit or something else. It's good news, showing that this car can at least be tuned to make more power. They never had anything like that for the Celica.
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Celica had the Msport package in Japan with improved IHE for that extra 17bhp or so.

In other news here's a newer TV CM from Japan.... Looks like a Ridge Racer rip off haha

While it's exciting it's a bit amateurish, but that's also part of its marketing language it should be something you don't look up to but something you will own even if you have the mentality of a 10 year old.
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FYI, I already have a Panamera and GT3RS, I'm just upgrading them

I'll probably just drive the 86 for a month and sell it.

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was browsing the scion pics...TCS and sport/snow mode on a < $30k car?
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lets just hope that a limited scion with all options is priced just under 30k
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was browsing the scion pics...TCS and sport/snow mode on a < $30k car?
VSC-like system mandatory on all cars sold in USA since 2010. And usually TCS just comes as a bonus because it's largely the same system with different algorithms. My 2010 Cube has VSC and TCS...on what's essentially a 18k USD car.

here is a picture of the fully option-ed out version doing its deed in the hands of the talented drivers of EVO UK



It's like a new Supra actually. I like that.
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will the Subaru's BRZ also get the same supercharger? or is this a toyota/scion only thing?

supercharged boxer!!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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nvm, apparently the TRD supercharged version is meant to COMPETE with the subaru's BRZ STI ;[
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will the Subaru's BRZ also get the same supercharger? or is this a toyota/scion only thing?

supercharged boxer!!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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nvm, apparently the TRD supercharged version is meant to COMPETE with the subaru's BRZ STI ;[
You should be able to buy the supercharger and install it on the BRZ.
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VSC-like system mandatory on all cars sold in USA since 2010. And usually TCS just comes as a bonus because it's largely the same system with different algorithms. My 2010 Cube has VSC and TCS...on what's essentially a 18k USD car.
good to know...does that apply to all Canadian spec cars too?
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no Yaris and some other lower model cars were sold without VSC in Canada before 2011. But as of 1st Jan 2011 it's now also mandatory in Canada.

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super charger big woopy frankly trds super chargers are like junk for what they are

sure a super charger installed on a truck it is good idea but for a car boooooo stuiped idea toyota way to go

plus super chargers are shittyer on gas then a turbo ):


sti turbo will end up being the choice to own over the super charger and be much more upgradeable and better on gas


shakes head oh well what can ya do
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Hmm...the shape kinda remind me of the Mitsubishi FTO
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super charger big woopy frankly trds super chargers are like junk for what they are

sure a super charger installed on a truck it is good idea but for a car boooooo stuiped idea toyota way to go

plus super chargers are shittyer on gas then a turbo ):


sti turbo will end up being the choice to own over the super charger and be much more upgradeable and better on gas


shakes head oh well what can ya do

You are a fucking IDIOT!

Ever heard of a bypass valve?

Anyways, that poor little 4 cylinder needs a supercharger, so it can push itself around the corners with ease.
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yes I have heard of one but umm that not what a bypass valve does there Sherlock

a clutch pulley will play's the roll of turning off supercharger so no parasitic drain is had on the motor by turning the rotors


if you have not notice if you look at the new Chevy cobalt ss they ditch the stupid super charger because it is bad idea


turbo technology is so far advanced right now it stupid to super charge in less you need low end torque asap like a truck would or Detroit diesel to powers it turbos.


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Bypass valves will minimize parasitic drain. Hit up Eaton's website and learn how it works.

Magna Charger manufacturers intercooled supercharging systems for late model GM and Ford cars, trucks and SUVs utilizing OEM quality Eaton hybrid superchargers. Here, read this too.

Supercharging will offer a broad torque band, what this car really needs.

Opcon's and the Eaton TVS are extremely efficient superchargers.
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don't care turbos are free power and better on the environment, roots chargers are not

the only good belt driven charger that is good is the rotrex but i highly dought it will find it's way on to a toyota


shutting it off fully is the best way no if and or butts


toyota did this on the 4agze an old trick to save fuel was to run toggle switch in the cabin to fully turn the super charger off to save fuel then just drive around with no bost what so ever

plus it's going to suck when your buddie in a braz flash's his ecu and chnages some small things cheeply to up the boost higher and then walk's all over you

were as super charger can have pullie installed and a re flash and net small gain's

so all in all toyota get's a nice butt cheek clap from me
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Actually, centrifugal superchargers are the worst ones out there...

/face fucking palm.

Turbo's are not free power...piston has to work harder to push the exhaust gasses out as there is back pressure in the system (turbocharger.) AKA, pumping loss.

Or you can mess with the bypass valve to increase boost... They're adjustable.

Electro magnetic clutches will eventually fail.
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Not good enough people. We need more things to bitch and moan about for a car that we haven't even driven yet!
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