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Old 11-04-2011, 09:25 AM   #151
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I like how they already have simulations of carrying 4 drift tires in the back in case you need to. LOL.
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Old 11-04-2011, 11:13 AM   #153
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that doesnt make any sense, how can a 2 litre with direct port injection and 12.5 compression,

make less horsepower than a 1.8 litre 11.5 compression itr motor?

something almost seems off?
i really think the extra revs of 9000 rpm has to do with the max engine output when comparing the ITR to the FR-S...

but ya lol... already showing you that it can carry an extra set of tires....
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high compression with 2.0L......minimal horse power and torque and needs premium

am i missing the pro's here?
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Yes master of mechanical genius. You are correct had they gone for something more reasonable like 9:1 in NA form would have been much better right?
Thinking more like 10.5:1.

200HP N/A out of a 2.0L is very possible with that ratio, and low boost friendly as well.
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they even considered "tire transport for track days"!?

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Looks pretty good:
LA Live: Subaru BRZ Concept- STI

Again it's just a concept so not everything will make it into production. I hope the STI comes with more power.
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that doesnt make any sense, how can a 2 litre with direct port injection and 12.5 compression,

make less horsepower than a 1.8 litre 11.5 compression itr motor?

something almost seems off?
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high compression with 2.0L......minimal horse power and torque and needs premium

am i missing the pro's here?
let's remember that this is Toyota that is making the engine here. Toyota always designs their motors very conservatively. I am betting that the ECU programming and camshaft profiles are dialed back for reliability and longevity. with the exception of a few engines, Toyota always builds engines that are non-interference. that means they have mild cam durations, so that always prohibits big power numbers from the factory.

cars like the ITR and other VTEC sports cars by Honda are all out sporty. they have aggressive cam profiles that definitely make good power on the high end, and make very good use of the high compression ratios.

I'm looking forward to see what the tuner market can do for the FT86. what does this engine have in terms of variable valve timing? or varible cam timing?
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from the images posted above the rear is seriously agressive as fuck
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subaru version looks hotter than toyota's!
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I just want a garage or company to try and turbo the thing, to see what the rear end limits are like,

im sure the motor is nice and stout, but if the rear frame will twist under like 400whp, then the car is useless,

but if the reviews turn out that everything on the car can handle huge horse numbers without breaking, il probably buy one
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It's supposed to be tuner friendly, like the Civic. That's the selling point of the car. That's why the entry price is so low and the N/A motor only pissing out 200 horses. We shall see though.

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I just want a garage or company to try and turbo the thing, to see what the rear end limits are like,

im sure the motor is nice and stout, but if the rear frame will twist under like 400whp, then the car is useless,

but if the reviews turn out that everything on the car can handle huge horse numbers without breaking, il probably buy one
I think I'd be more worried about how much power the tranny and diff will take before blowing up, than whether the frame will twist. The car would have to be pretty under-engineered to do that.
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I wounder how long it will take for some to stuff a 2jz into one


you all know it will happen
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the car looks tiny next to the guy on the stage
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the car looks tiny next to the guy on the stage
It is supposed to be about the size of a Mini Cooper.... which is a tad shorter than the original AE86....
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^ ^ Small car is a good thing.... Hehehe
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It's a tiny car, Miata tiny.

Just to give you a general idea:

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I don't pretend to be keeping totally up to date on this whole thing... but isn't it using an already available (in other countries) Subaru motor? Should be lots of info already...
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that's a pretty good size. I hate heavyass cars.
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that's a pretty good size. I hate heavyass cars.


See the guy was right it does share thing from all the other toyota sport cars


gonna big tiny ass rear seats just like the supra.
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Wow. I wasn't expecting it to that small from the pictures.
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It's a tiny car, Miata tiny.

Just to give you a general idea:

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edit: whoops wrote down the wrong gen celica lol

just in case anyones wondering its about the same length as the 7th gen celica

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edit2 Its the same length as the 370z which is 4240mm according to wiki

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I will probably buy it just because I give props to toyota for finally pulling the trigger....
even though I do like the subaru design a lot more eh
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