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Apple has become embroiled in a racism scandal after a lawsuit was filed accusing an employee at the company's flagship Broadway store of telling two African-Americans their "kind" was not welcome.
The incident allegedly occurred on December 9 2010 when Nile Charles, 24, and Brian Johnston, 34, entered the Apple shop in Manhattan's Upper West Side at around 3.20pm. Dressed in "baggy jeans and large sweaters with hoods", the plaintiffs say they were looking to purchase headphones, but soon attracted the attention of an Apple staff member.
The unnamed employee – said to be white and in his fifties – allegedly approached the customers in an "intimidating fashion", invading their "personal space", and saying: "You know the deal. You know the deal."
Having been asked to leave the store unless they made a purchase or saw a Mac Specialist, Charles and Johnston were then supposedly told: "And before you say I'm racially discriminating against you, let me stop you. I am discriminating against you."
The employee continued: "I don't want your kind hanging out in the store."
The incident didn't end there, according to the lawsuit. Feeling "shocked and humiliated" by their treatment, the two customers began to use their mobile phones to record the conversation when a second Apple employee approached them.
"Now you have to go," one of the employees is accused of saying. "If you want to know why, it's because I said so. CONSIDER ME GOD. You have to go."
Demanding to see the store manager, Charles and Johnston's request is said to have been ignored. Having eventually found the manager of their own accord, the two men tried to make racial profiling allegations, only for the manager to ask the store's Head of Security to call the police.
The lawsuit, evidence of which appeared on the website Apple Insider, is currently working through the New York legal system. While the incident is yet to be substantiated – they remain allegations, nothing more – it is the latest in a growing number of racism accusations levelled at American Apple employees.
Last year Owen Stone, a black American who blogs under the pseudonym 'OhDoctah', set the blogosphere alight when he described an incident in which he claims he was accused of attempting to steal a MacBook Pro by staff in Apple's Santa Monica branch.
In June 2010, New York's Attorney General Andrew Cuomo said he was investigating claims by local politician Grace Meng that Apple's SoHo store was discriminating against Asian people by refusing to sell iPads without proof of American citizenship. Not yet released in Asia at the time, employees allegedly feared iPads would be bought in America and sold on the Asian black market.
I wasn't there, but these 'black people' could have come in the store, swearing, causing a scene, or even stealing anything, and because maybe they were the only black people in the store they saw it as racism, went to the media, and took it to court.
I want to see the full conversation that was 'recorded', then I can voice an opinion.
dunno the full story so can't comment. It's strange that a manager of a flagship store will randomly come up to some black dudes and start discriminating against them. Perhaps the two black ppl were doing something irritating to other customers.
lol, he could just be discriminating this "kind" of annoying people. Media always hype up the story and make it racism.
There's nothing there that proves the discrimination was because they're black... maybe it's discrimination against being dressed in baggy jeans and large sweaters with hoods.
There's nothing there that proves the discrimination was because they're black... maybe it's discrimination against being dressed in baggy jeans and large sweaters with hoods.
Quoted for fucking truth. No one should tolerate these fucking fagot monkeys that dress this way.
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Having been asked to leave the store unless they made a purchase or saw a Mac Specialist, Charles and Johnston were then supposedly told: "And before you say I'm racially discriminating against you, let me stop you. I am discriminating against you."
Hahahaha, losers.
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I mean no offense by this. But while I can see these two individuals minding their own business only to get picked on by some racist employee. I can't help but remember all the times I've watched "Hardcore Pawn" where they make a big deal out of nothing and play the race card when they are asked to leave for being dbags, causing a scene and disturbing everyone in store.
Of course people like that come in all races, I've seen ridiculous asian and white people do the same thing. But still...
dunno the full story so can't comment. It's strange that a manager of a flagship store will randomly come up to some black dudes and start discriminating against them. Perhaps the two black ppl were doing something irritating to other customers.
lol, he could just be discriminating this "kind" of annoying people. Media always hype up the story and make it racism.
The article doesn't say the "a manager" of the flagship store randomly approached the black guys...it says that a random employee did...The manager wasn't involved until the two gentleman sought after him and found him (at which point a scene was probably made) and the store manager didn't want his business being disrupted with chaos.
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It's Manhattan... there must be a million african americans that make their way through the apple store a day
these two must have been acting shady for the manager to target them or else the manager would burst a blood vessel getting all the black people out of an apple store located in manhattan
i actually doubt it has to do with their attire either considering the location and fashion of the area
"And before you say I'm racially discriminating against you, let me stop you. I am discriminating against you."
Your thread title is incorrect. He made a point to mention it wasn't racially motivated discrimination, simply discrimination against the 'type' of people he was dealing with. Proper thread title should have been "Broke Gangster Attire not welcome at Apple Store" or something to that effect.
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