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Next Porsche 911 to get a 7 speed MANUAL transmission
Seven Gears, and one manually operated clutch
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Confirmed: Next Porsche 911 to Launch with 7-Speed Manual Transmission (Yes, the Clutch-Pedal Kind)
May 31, 2011 at 1:26pm by Jens Meiners
More isn’t always better. We’ll agree in terms of power, but respectfully pass when we’re talking about weight. Transmission gears? We’re not sure. Some recent automatics have featured seven and eight forward ratios (and ZF has even announced a nine-speed auto), but the maximum for traditional clutch-and-lever manual transmissions has been six for some time. That’s about to change, however, because we’ve confirmed from various corporate sources that Porsche will offer a seven-speed manual in the next-generation 911, a development we first reported last November.
The point is to offer a tall, seventh gear for improved efficiency and reduced engine noise during long cruises. The shifting experience is said to be similar to that of the current six-speed manual—which we love—there’s just a bit more rowing to do, although, depending on the ratio spread, veteran Porsche drivers might also have to slightly tweak their thinking in terms of gear choice for upcoming corners. Unless something changes and the shift pattern is seriously wacky, though, we doubt anyone will get confused during hard driving, since seventh will hardly be anyone’s go-to gear for corner exit.
As to the next 911 itself, it carries the internal 991 designation and is scheduled to debut at the Frankfurt auto show this September. It will be based on the stretched architecture of the 996/997 and offer more rear seat space and a more comfortable, luxurious interior. Vehicle stability will be improved thanks to a longer wheelbase. Future generations of the 911, however, are expected to share many components with the next-gen Audi R8 and Lamborghini Gallardo as part of the VW Group’s highly flexible Modularer Sportbaukasten, or “modular sports architecture.” When and if this platform convergence happens, the 911 will keep its rear-engine layout, although the powerplant may nevertheless be moved forward significantly.
Porsche’s seven-speed manual only adds to the multiple gearbox options in the sports-car segment, which include dual-clutch, torque-converter, and modified automatics; traditional manuals; and even an entirely new single-clutch automatic in the Lamborghini Aventador. Will the seven-speed manual be offered by other automakers as well? At present, a supplier source tells us additional interest in the technology is limited.
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I imagine 1-6 will be similar to how it is now, and 7th will be real fuckin tall. like 1000rpm at 100km/h tall. basically like an economy highway cruising gear.
With a 6 speed H-pattern shifter the gear lever centers at 3rd and from there you can only go left one gate and right one gate.
Having to choose between more gates with no substantial tactile "feel" between 5th & 7th (or wherever they happen to put the extra gear) will introduce problems. It's the same reason that many gearboxes put an extra mechanism on the shifter to engage reverse when it's not easily differentiated from other gears. I suspect they'll do something similar with 7th.
What's the shifter arrangement on current Porsches? Is it reverse on the left like Volkswagens, or is it the "traditional" reverse on the right? If anything, it'll probably be the former, and put 7th gear on the right side.
What's the shifter arrangement on current Porsches? Is it reverse on the left like Volkswagens, or is it the "traditional" reverse on the right? If anything, it'll probably be the former, and put 7th gear on the right side.
Or 1st will be on the bottom left, with the remaining six in the traditional H-pattern.
With a 6 speed H-pattern shifter the gear lever centers at 3rd and from there you can only go left one gate and right one gate.
Having to choose between more gates with no substantial tactile "feel" between 5th & 7th (or wherever they happen to put the extra gear) will introduce problems. It's the same reason that many gearboxes put an extra mechanism on the shifter to engage reverse when it's not easily differentiated from other gears. I suspect they'll do something similar with 7th.
Smart guy. I have a feeling that they will keep the traditional H pattern and implement some sort of semi truck shifting that has like 10+ gears, which overlaps some of the existing lower gears.
With a 6 speed H-pattern shifter the gear lever centers at 3rd and from there you can only go left one gate and right one gate.
Having to choose between more gates with no substantial tactile "feel" between 5th & 7th (or wherever they happen to put the extra gear) will introduce problems. It's the same reason that many gearboxes put an extra mechanism on the shifter to engage reverse when it's not easily differentiated from other gears. I suspect they'll do something similar with 7th.
My car is 9 years old and has significant tactile feed back when going from N to the 1/2 position, then left again to R.
I could see them implementing the same sort tactile feedback (no extra mechanism) to go from 5/6 and pushing right even further to go to a 7th gear.
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What's the shifter arrangement on current Porsches? Is it reverse on the left like Volkswagens, or is it the "traditional" reverse on the right? If anything, it'll probably be the former, and put 7th gear on the right side.
the current shifter arrangement on 6 speed manual porsches has the reverse gear engaged through pushing the shifter all the way to the left, and upwards. unlike volkswagens, you do not need to push down onto the shifter to be able to engage the reverse gear, you simply have to push to the left, past some resistance from the shifter, and up. BMW has the same pattern as porsche.
the 5 speed manual porsches have the reverse in the bottom right hand corner of the H pattern.
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