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7seven 04-20-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS (Post 7894143)
Elliot Friedman posted that the later the pen-flyers and wings-preds series goes, the later start time the Canucks will have on Sunday. Not really sure what to make of that information.

This is true, NBC needs 2 games to televise nationally in the morning/afternoon slots. Right now only Wash/Bos and Van/LA is guaranteed to go Sunday, so if both Detroit and Pittsburgh gets knocked out tonight, the Canucks game will be an early one to accommodate TV schedule.

Soundy 04-20-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS (Post 7894143)
So has he had it coming since he entered the league? He's improved in some aspect of his game every year since he's been in the NHL. He has the best backhand shot in the world and his faceoffs got better this season too.

Won't be best player for long?? What player in the league has accomplished what he has so far? Until someone does what he's done, he'll have it coming to him....

"Kids, remember to practice and always get better... always aspire to be second best, though. You don't want to be the BEST because then everyone else will be jelly and hate on you."

b0unce. [?] 04-20-2012 01:18 PM

anyone read this shit tsn posted?

Your! Call: Are Luongo's days in Vancouver numbered?

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Are Roberto Luongo's days in a Vancouver Canucks uniform numbered?

Whenever the off-season arrives for the Canucks, they'll find themselves in a situation no one could have predicted three years ago.

In 2009, the Canucks signed goaltender Roberto Luongo to a 12-year, $64-million contract extension, essentially pegging him as the team's starter until he was ready to retire.

He was fresh off a season in which he was nominated for the Vezina Trophy, Lester B. Pearson Award and Hart Memorial Trophy, and he was the team's captain. Signing him long term seemed like a no-brainer.

What they did not foresee was the emergence of their 2004 first round draft pick, Cory Schneider. At that point, the 23-year old goaltender had appeared in a total of eight NHL games. He had recorded two wins, a GAA of 3.38 and a save percentage of .877.

In Vancouver's 2011 playoff run, Luongo took his team to within one game of winning the Stanley Cup. Before Game 6 against the Bruins, many picked him to win the Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP if the Canucks had closed the deal.

This year, after the Canucks lost Games 1 and 2 of their first round series against the L.A. Kings, Luongo was seen as one of the team's best performers in those games. Yet "back-up" Schneider was given the Game 3 start. He lost that game by a score of 1-0.

With Vancouver's back up against the proverbial wall for Game 4, coach Alain Vigneault went back to Schneider, sending a clear message that he saw the understudy as his best chance to extend the series.

And it worked.

Luongo, who only three years ago was signed to be the Canucks starter for 12 years, has lost his claim to that title just two seasons after the contract took effect.

With Schneider slated to become a restricted free agent this summer, the Canucks will have the right to match any offer sheet placed in front of him, and they'll likely re-sign him.

So are Luongo's days in Vancouver numbered?

As always, it's Your! Call.

InvisibleSoul 04-20-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by b0unce. [?] (Post 7894191)

It's not just something TSN posted, similar articles have been posted on all news outlets.

Reality is one of the two has to be moved this off-season, and while Luongo is the harder one to move because of his salary and NTC, there is a chance that Schneider will be the one still with the team next October.

SumAznGuy 04-20-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul (Post 7894211)
It's not just something TSN posted, similar articles have been posted on all news outlets.

Reality is one of the two has to be moved this off-season, and while Luongo is the harder one to move because of his salary and NTC, there is a chance that Schneider will be the one still with the team next October.

Right now, from what i have seen and what I have read, it can be either goalies. Down 3-0, there is nothing to lose for the Nuck's to keep playing Schneider. Basically, they could be show casing him to all the potential teams for an off season deal. Or the writing is on the wall and they are going to try to move Lu, which is really less likely since market value may be lowered since the team went with Schides. I don't think Lu's contract will hinder a trade. Since it has been mentioned, a low cap hit, the $10M part of the contract is over and all that remains is the $6M and lower portions of the contract. Only thing that can hinder a move is the NMC.

But one thing is for sure, they supposedly have a capable backup goalie in Eddie Lack so if not this offseason, next off season someone will be gone.

HonestTea 04-20-2012 02:20 PM

So we'll know what time Sunday's game is by tonight?

Not really racist! 04-20-2012 02:24 PM

Keep in mind that Lack is already 24 and his coaches have said that hes ready for the big leagues

trip 04-20-2012 02:24 PM

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2012/...ff_traditions/

Not really racist! 04-20-2012 02:34 PM

^ :facepalm:

that was on the last page..

trip 04-20-2012 02:45 PM

damn it. i skimmed through and didnt see anything

bballguy 04-20-2012 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS (Post 7894143)
So has he had it coming since he entered the league? He's improved in some aspect of his game every year since he's been in the NHL. He has the best backhand shot in the world and his faceoffs got better this season too.

Won't be best player for long?? What player in the league has accomplished what he has so far? Until someone does what he's done, he'll have it coming to him....

I don't think you get what I'm saying; yes, he's the greatest player in the league, and yes, that alone could be a reason for guys to go after him, but the fact of the matter is that he's getting involved in, and often even initiating fights.....Nobody wants to be known as the guy who ultimately ends Crosby's career early, seeing how he's thought of as god's gift to hockey by most of the hockey world...but the way he plays (getting involved and initiating fights), somebody is eventually going to treat him like any other guy and end up knocking him out....The difference is though that for any other guy it would probably be a small concussion, probably keep him out for 10-15 days....but one more concussion for Crosby? ehhh, he's probably done...............Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if he suffered severe brain damage if he got another major concussion....

fsy82 04-20-2012 03:35 PM

For people wondering whats happening with Raffi Torres

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National Hockey League Senior Vice President of Player Safety and Hockey Operations Brendan Shanahan will announce Saturday whether the NHL Department of Player Safety will assess further supplemental discipline to suspended Phoenix Coyotes forward Raffi Torres.

Torres was suspended indefinitely Wednesday, pending an in-person hearing held today at the NHL's New York Office, for a hit on Chicago forward Marian Hossa 11:42 into the first period of Game 3 of the teams' Western Conference Quarterfinal series in Chicago on Tuesday, April 17.

Soundy 04-20-2012 03:48 PM

WTF, 7 minutes in and no goals yet?! Philly and Pittsburgh, I am disappoint.

Tim Budong 04-20-2012 04:07 PM

ONLY 2 Goals in 15min..
SO DISAPPOINT

pastarocket 04-20-2012 04:09 PM

Bryzgalov is one of the worst goalies in the playoffs that I've ever seen. His net was open on the Sullivan goal. Another high scoring, barn burner game?

pastarocket 04-20-2012 04:17 PM

Hartnell scores! It's 2-1 for Philly. The floodgates are open.

Hartnell's hair stylist: Sideshow Bob.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R0SmVDQPj8...t_hartnell.jpg

kristianhay 04-20-2012 04:53 PM

Man, Bryzgalov is brutal.

civicyvr 04-20-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ludepower (Post 7893667)
http://www.nhlsnipers.com/wp-content...tinbrodeur.jpg

Congrats to Marty's 24th playoff shutout tonight...passing Patrick Roy with all-time most playoff shutouts.

I believe theres no goalie coming close to breaking any records Brodeur and Roy have set.

One of the best ever for sure. Not only a great goalie but pretty much forced the NHL to enact the new trapezoid rule to minimize his puck handling prowess.

Just don't understand the hate for Crosby.

I am glad we have two quality starting goalies and I am sure teams like Philly, Tampa, Florida, etc would want either one.

spideyv2 04-20-2012 04:56 PM

What if Philly had goaltending? History will be made

civicyvr 04-20-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jayare604 (Post 7894361)
What if Philly had goaltending? History will be made

Yes, for the last two decades. Haha.

Hondaracer 04-20-2012 05:02 PM

i dont get why everyone, especially on team1040 is so gung-ho on the "Lu is gone"

lu makes 5.2, sign Corey at 3.5

just under 9 mill on 2 great goalies

2 great goalies sharing the load gets you WAYYYY more points over a season than an ovechkin at 9 mill per..

dumping Manny, Raymond, etc. free's up space but then limits the ability to sign depth forwards

pure.life 04-20-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jayare604 (Post 7894361)
What if Philly had goaltending? History will be made

Quote:

Originally Posted by civicyvr (Post 7894366)
Yes, for the last two decades. Haha.

same can be said if Canucks had goaltending in the playoffs

civicyvr 04-20-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 7894369)
i dont get why everyone, especially on team1040 is so gung-ho on the "Lu is gone"

lu makes 5.2, sign Corey at 3.5

just under 9 mill on 2 great goalies

2 great goalies sharing the load gets you WAYYYY more points over a season than an ovechkin at 9 mill per..

dumping Manny, Raymond, etc. free's up space but then limits the ability to sign depth forwards

Although Lu and Schneids have a good relationship, not sure if mgmt will go for tying up 9 mil with Lack in the works.

DanHibiki 04-20-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pure.life (Post 7894370)
same can be said if Canucks had goaltending in the playoffs

:suspicious::fulloffuck::seriously::facepalm:

TjAlmeida 04-20-2012 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 7894369)
i dont get why everyone, especially on team1040 is so gung-ho on the "Lu is gone"

lu makes 5.2, sign Corey at 3.5

just under 9 mill on 2 great goalies

2 great goalies sharing the load gets you WAYYYY more points over a season than an ovechkin at 9 mill per..

dumping Manny, Raymond, etc. free's up space but then limits the ability to sign depth forwards

you think either of them want to be a back up goalie next season. i would be very surprised if both of them stay with the canucks for next season. no way Cory wants to start next year as a back up goalie again with his skill level, and luongo is not a back up goalie.


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