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MR_BIGGS 04-26-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 7900810)
How much do you think Schneids would sign for? I'd rather just keep 1 and use the Lu salary for some more offense and what not... just me though. .but who knows.. maybe MG is willing to give this core 1 more shot at it and he just adds another piece or 2 via trades

Darren Dreger tweeted a day or so ago that Schnieder can easily command 4 years at 4 million each.

spoon.ek9 04-26-2012 10:22 AM

Resign and Re-sign are two totally different words.

Tim Budong 04-26-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS (Post 7900847)
Darren Dreger tweeted a day or so ago that Schnieder can easily command 4 years at 4 million each.

i wouldnt be surprised. Cory is easier to move. Will Cory sign more than one year if he were to stay? he is UFA next year and given the "window", he might need to look else where if he wants to win...

kristianhay 04-26-2012 10:27 AM

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Roberto Luongo stated earlier this week he was open to a trade and a source told ESPN.com Thursday that he is mulling over a shortlist of teams he’ll hand the Vancouver Canucks as early as next week.

James Duthie of TSN in Canada reported via Twitter late Wednesday night that the Toronto Maple Leafs would be part of that short list.

The Florida Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning, Chicago Blackhawks and New Jersey Devils are other possibilities, another source told ESPN.com Thursday, while stressing that Luongo hasn’t yet made up his mind on the list.

The Columbus Blue Jackets are in dire need of goaltending but it’s not clear at this point whether Luongo would want to include them on his list or not.

The Canucks would not say much when asked about Luongo on Thursday: "This is an important decision for our organization and the players involved," Canucks assistant GM Laurence Gilman told ESPN.com. "It is not going to be something we discuss publicly throughout the process."

Canucks GM Mike Gillis was on Vancouver’s Team 1040 radio station Thursday and said the team hasn’t even decided yet what they’re going to do in goal.

"No, we haven’t," Gillis said on the station. "We all need to take a deep breath here."

Luongo began in career with the Panthers and has retained South Florida as his offseason home.

The veteran goalie was benched after two games in favor of young goalie Cory Schneider in Vancouver’s first-round loss to Los Angeles. Luongo, who has a no-trade clause, then told the assembled Vancouver media on Tuesday that he’d be open to a trade.

Luongo, 33, signed a 12-year deal with the Canucks in 2009, worth $64 million. It runs through the 2021-22 season, although it’s front-loaded. It paid him $10 million last season, $6.716 million this season, $6.714 million per season for the next six years, then drops to $3.382 million in 2018-19, $1.618 million in 2019-20 and $1 million in each of the last two seasons. The salary-cap hit for the entirety of the contract is $5.33 million per season.

Schneider, 26, is a restricted free agent July 1 who needs a new contract that will pay him much more than the $900,000 he earned this season. For salary-cap reasons alone, the Canucks were always going to be forced to decide between goalies this summer.

I don’t believe for a second that the Leafs would top Luongo’s list, given the similar, hockey-crazed and sometimes over-the-top culture that he’d be leaving from in Vancouver. But Luongo also knows he can’t be too picky given his monster contract if he really wants to leave the Canucks. Plus, in Toronto there’s goalie coach Francois Allaire, whom Luongo holds in high regard, and Leafs’ executive Dave Nonis, who traded for him in Vancouver when Nonis was Canucks GM.

Still, my bet would be on the two Florida NHL teams to be his favored destinations.
Where's Roberto Luongo going now? - Cross Checks Blog - ESPN

Hondaracer 04-26-2012 11:13 AM

Schneider will only get 4+ from a non-contender

Also regarding Lu to TO, A) nothing Toronto has gets us closer to a cup

B) if luongo went to TO he's basically saying he has no interest in winning a cup, he just wants to ride out his career because now that he has dealt with a big market he knows how to play it and will give them enough wins to be satisfied.

bballguy 04-26-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 7900896)
Schneider will only get 4+ from a non-contender

Also regarding Lu to TO, A) nothing Toronto has gets us closer to a cup

B) if luongo went to TO he's basically saying he has no interest in winning a cup, he just wants to ride out his career because now that he has dealt with a big market he knows how to play it and will give them enough wins to be satisfied.

If he can get 4+ from a non-contender, he can get 4+ from us, given that we can ship out Boberto Loolongo.

411ken 04-26-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 7900896)
B) if luongo went to TO he's basically saying he has no interest in winning a cup, he just wants to ride out his career because now that he has dealt with a big market he knows how to play it and will give them enough wins to be satisfied.

I kinda disagree with this. I think Toronto with Luongo can make some noise in regular season/playoffs. They could easily take Ottawa or Florida's spot in the playoffs with him in net.

I actually like the D core of the Leafs (believe it or not) and they have some good forwards as well.

Every team's goal is to WIN the stanley cup (I hope so anyway) and luongo CAN help a team get close to it./. So not sure how you figure out that Toronto has no goal in winning a cup or making the playoffs.

PornMaster 04-26-2012 11:46 AM

A trade to tampa for either goalies could get us a ton of talent back.

Pros
1) Traded to eastern conference team
2) Lots of trade opportunities
3) Can trade either luongo or schneider

SumAznGuy 04-26-2012 11:49 AM

Karlsson, Weber, Chara the finalists for Norris Trophy

As everyone has guessed, Erik Karlsson, Zdeno Chara, and Shea Weber are the finalist for the Norris trophy.

I'm gonna guess Karlsson.

411ken 04-26-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 7900922)
Karlsson, Weber, Chara the finalists for Norris Trophy

As everyone has guessed, Erik Karlsson, Zdeno Chara, and Shea Weber are the finalist for the Norris trophy.

I'm gonna guess Karlsson.

Karlsson for sureeee.. or he should anyway

78points this year..25 more than the other 2 finalist

and his +/- improved drastically!! last year -30.. this year +16

bballguy 04-26-2012 12:02 PM

My vote still goes to Weber, and I still think he'll end up getting it; Weber will end up on top, and Chara and Karlsson will end up splitting the rest of the votes. The award goes to the most well-rounded defenseman....Karlsson's offensive numbers are far greater than anyone else's, but his defense is very mediocre...Weber is the most well-rounded.

Not really racist! 04-26-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 7900936)
Karlsson for sureeee.. or he should anyway

78points this year..25 more than the other 2 finalist

and his +/- improved drastically!! last year -30.. this year +16

thats based on points alone

have you watched any Ottawa games to observe him on the defensive end compared to the other two candidates?

411ken 04-26-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Not really racist! (Post 7900945)
thats based on points alone

have you watched any Ottawa games to observe him on the defensive end compared to the other two candidates?

You raise a good point. I guess he wins in the points category then lol... Out of the 3 though, i'm a big fan of Weber's game

Karlsson would win most improved player award if the NHL gave those out lol.. he was also the one of the main reason for Ottawa's turnaround and even a playoff birth this year.. that's the reason I chose him lol

TjAlmeida 04-26-2012 12:23 PM

I was a fan of weber too.. Until he smashed zeterberg's face into the glass.

highfive 04-26-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 7900918)
I kinda disagree with this. I think Toronto with Luongo can make some noise in regular season/playoffs. They could easily take Ottawa or Florida's spot in the playoffs with him in net.

I actually like the D core of the Leafs (believe it or not) and they have some good forwards as well.

Every team's goal is to WIN the stanley cup (I hope so anyway) and luongo CAN help a team get close to it./. So not sure how you figure out that Toronto has no goal in winning a cup or making the playoffs.

Leafs D is solid but it really depends on how Dion is playing that night. If he plays like shit, so goes the entire defence.

They have some good wingers. They are still lacking a lot down the middle. If you look at good teams in the playoffs you need to ride a good centreman or have the centreman play well during that time.

Washington - Backstrom, Laich
Phoenix - Vermette, Brule
St. Louis - McDonald, Berglund, Oshie
Nashville - Legwand, Fisher
Philly - Giroux, Briere
LA - Kopitar, Richards, Stoll

Don't know how to take this tweet about Luongo's trade.

From @Strombone1 Twitter

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You're the boss!!! "@NotBobbyLu: Let's just screw with everybody and put the Rangers, Predators, and the Canadiens on the list. Nobody else"
I always thought Strombone1 is Luongo..but I don't know. kinda lost at the moment.

411ken 04-26-2012 01:26 PM

^ Leafs has Lupul,Grabovski, Steckel, Connolly( too bad he's never healthy), Lombardi, Bozak.. Sure, they could use another top big name centreman but these guys could do the job as long as they stay healthy.. and with a solid D then Lu as the goalie.. damnnnn..

I'm not a leafs fan whatsover but I do see the potential with the team.

Gh0stRider 04-26-2012 02:30 PM

http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptu...s/louleafs.jpg

Tim Budong 04-26-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by highfive (Post 7900959)
Leafs D is solid but it really depends on how Dion is playing that night. If he plays like shit, so goes the entire defence.

They have some good wingers. They are still lacking a lot down the middle. If you look at good teams in the playoffs you need to ride a good centreman or have the centreman play well during that time.

Washington - Backstrom, Laich
Phoenix - Vermette, Brule
St. Louis - McDonald, Berglund, Oshie
Nashville - Legwand, Fisher
Philly - Giroux, Briere
LA - Kopitar, Richards, Stoll

Don't know how to take this tweet about Luongo's trade.

From @Strombone1 Twitter



I always thought Strombone1 is Luongo..but I don't know. kinda lost at the moment.

Somehow... i feel that Strombone1 is Bieksa screwing with our heads as Luongo LOL

PornMaster 04-26-2012 02:53 PM

Ottawa better win!!! Canadas last hope!

sonick 04-26-2012 02:58 PM

lol just noticed @NotBobbyLu's background image. HIlarious:

https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profil...IAAikMv_1_.jpg

DanHibiki 04-26-2012 03:03 PM

I had a new RS name I wanted to use but I can't if Luongo gets traded :(

bballguy 04-26-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DanHibiki (Post 7901063)
I had a new RS name I wanted to use but I can't if Luongo gets traded :(

That's really neat man.

MR_BIGGS 04-26-2012 03:11 PM

Bothford RT this from someone. At this point it is speculation.
They'd have to change the goal song RT @Shaester34 just read Hawks r on lu's list. Bolland coming back?

Luongo is going to troll Canucks fans.

punkwax 04-26-2012 03:13 PM

It will be a cold day in hell before MG trades Luongo to Chicago.

spideyv2 04-26-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DanHibiki (Post 7901063)
I had a new RS name I wanted to use but I can't if Luongo gets traded :(

http://i.qkme.me/3omlm3.jpg


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