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seakrait 10-06-2011 10:19 PM

^^ very nice move by letang.

Harvey Specter 10-06-2011 10:23 PM

Fuking Canucks and Yankees lost, what a bad night.

rsx 10-06-2011 10:29 PM

I think 99.8% of viewers called Samuelson shooting glove side low or high and burrows with his kick to backhand. Come on, try something else!!

DanHibiki 10-06-2011 10:34 PM

FUck why couldn't there be a game this Saturday

spoon.ek9 10-06-2011 10:40 PM

choices for tonight's shootout were... strange.

spideyv2 10-06-2011 10:54 PM

put hank and dank on SO list next time

thx

ShyGuy 10-06-2011 11:13 PM

doesn't matter who we put in..those were weak save attempts by Luongo

spideyv2 10-06-2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 7604762)
doesn't matter who we put in..those were weak save attempts by Luongo

missing both attempts we had doesn't matter?

mos def

kristianhay 10-06-2011 11:57 PM

First game, whatever, at least we got a point.

First off, Sedins were great as always - they seem to be in mid-season form which is nice to see, especially having played so little pre-season games. Hanks backhand sauce to Dank was unreal.

Sturm and Samuelsson seem unmotivated and slow, whereas Cody seemed to be skating his ass off and trying to make plays. Neither of the wingers were often open for the pass, and even if they were, they lacked the foot speed to make anything of it. Higgins - CoHo - Samuelsson might be something to try out instead.

Third line was okay, Higgins played well, Malhotra was meh and Hansen was pretty bad for his first game.

Fourth line looked good, they were hard on the forecheck, generated offensive chances and were fairly responsible in their own zone.

Lu really needs to stop flopping in shoot outs, staying square to the shooter and not leaning forward so much may help. The flop brings back bad memories, a la Ben Smith game 6, overtime. Lu is a great tendy, he just needs to use his size a bit more.

Anyways, it was an entertaining game and I'm beyond stoked that hockey is back on TV. It's only one game, so I'm not making any assumptions and am taking it all with a grain of salt - it's one game. We had a slow start last season and ended up winning the President's Trophy, so who knows! Looking forward to more puck anyways.

604778 10-07-2011 12:05 AM

Holy. Sportsnet new layout looks so ugly.
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AzNightmare 10-07-2011 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rsx (Post 7604706)
I think 99.8% of viewers called Samuelson shooting glove side low or high and burrows with his kick to backhand. Come on, try something else!!

Burrows scores most of his breakaways with that backhand move though...

To be honest, I don't think Burrows really has "something else"
I've seen him try other moves... like shooting right at the goalie...
And that's when I start raging, wondering why he didn't do his trademark backhand move.

JKam 10-07-2011 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kristianhay (Post 7604808)
Anyways, it was an entertaining game and I'm beyond stoked that hockey is back on TV. It's only one game, so I'm not making any assumptions and am taking it all with a grain of salt - it's one game. We had a slow start last season and ended up winning the President's Trophy, so who knows! Looking forward to more puck anyways.

Yeah I've giving them 2 weeks until they really start picking it up. They only had one preseason game with the current team so I'm sure they're still building chemistry with each other.

punkwax 10-07-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dbaz (Post 7604372)
never liked him, always thought we had the same if not more in schnieder. each season i give him a chance yet he continues to disappoint. i know a lot of others feel that way here too just too many people think hes the best thing since sliced bread. yet, fail to realize hes a. had his stats padded by playing in the southeast division when it was super weak and b. playing behind a very good team in vancouver.

always thought we had the same if not more in schneider? he's only been our backup for 2 yrs... how long have you been a fan?

stats padded by playing in the SE? he has the best record of any goaltender over the past 5 years (in case you missed it during last night's broadcast). Lets do some math here... came to Vancouver in 2006.. 2011 - 2006 = yep, you guessed it, 5 years. :failed:

Way too easy to hate on Lu. It's almost a bandwagon in itself.

All the people not realizing what we have in Luongo is tiresome. I'm not saying he's the be all end all, but he's a damn good goaltender. If you can't appreciate what he's done then you really don't know what you're talking about and are joining the rest of the armchair GMs out there who would have made the mistake of trading Lu years ago.

/rant

spideyv2 10-07-2011 08:20 AM

The only problem with Lu is his mental breakdowns. He tends to crumble under pressure a lot of the times..althOugh he was pretty solid for most of last year
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Gumby 10-07-2011 08:33 AM

In a 4-3 SO loss, do we get 4 GA or should it be 3?

Noir 10-07-2011 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nodnarb (Post 7605005)
always thought we had the same if not more in schneider? he's only been our backup for 2 yrs... how long have you been a fan?

stats padded by playing in the SE? he has the best record of any goaltender over the past 5 years (in case you missed it during last night's broadcast). Lets do some math here... came to Vancouver in 2006.. 2011 - 2006 = yep, you guessed it, 5 years. :failed:

Way too easy to hate on Lu. It's almost a bandwagon in itself.

All the people not realizing what we have in Luongo is tiresome. I'm not saying he's the be all end all, but he's a damn good goaltender. If you can't appreciate what he's done then you really don't know what you're talking about and are joining the rest of the armchair GMs out there who would have made the mistake of trading Lu years ago.

/rant

You're correct that he's damn good but based on what perspective? His predecessors?


By signing an $8M + per year contract (yes I know his hit it $5M but only due to legal fenagling by a team of lawyers and capologists), the basis of perspective changes.

Sure maybe a few rounds in the Post-Season you can get away with being just "good." But going the distance (which the only thing this franchise has left to do) the only thing that matter's is the difference between good & great.



I don't know, I'm still on the fence this year. I absolutely love 99% of this team but that 1% is starting to get to me as a fan. I still can't get over the fact that during the SCF, when one goalie got owned (Burrows OTG), he got pissed and vowed never to be owned again and one goalie is indifferent about losing a game by 8 goals, or by 1. :rolleyes:

Even though that SCF spoke volumes about Luongo, I was already done pumping his tires after his 3rd season.

Bonka 10-07-2011 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 7605028)
I still can't get over the fact that during the SCF, when one goalie got owned (Burrows OTG), he got pissed and vowed never to be owned again and one goalie is indifferent about losing a game by 8 goals, or by 1. :rolleyes:

And this is why I think our fanbase has such a problem with him. He is not a likeable guy at all and in his interviews he really does come across as an indifferent "I don't give a damn about anything" kind of athlete. Add to that his polarizing play and the constant critiquing of hockey fans and there you have it. Of course, it doesn't help that he brings this on himself.

Put Schneider in Luongo's place for the last 5 years in a Canuck uniform,but keep Cory's likeable attitude and I'm pretty confident that the sentiments would be different in Vancouver.

Until Lu gets dethroned here, we've got to keep our faith in check and ride with him.

RiceIntegraRS 10-07-2011 09:21 AM

In the eyes of Vancouver fans, if Luongo doesnt win by shutout hes not the reason why we won the game. Its pretty sad that he just won the Jennings Trophy, he was a vezina trophy finalist, backstopped our team to Game 7 to the SCF. Yet it still isnt enough.
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jeedee 10-07-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS (Post 7605068)
In the eyes of Vancouver fans, if Luongo doesnt win by shutout hes not the reason why we won the game. Its pretty sad that he just won the Jennings Trophy, he was a vezina trophy finalist, backstopped our team to Game 7 to the SCF. Yet it still isnt enough.
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There's only 1 thing that matters:

The Cup

And until Lu wins it, he will continue to be ripped apart after every game.

spoon.ek9 10-07-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jayare604 (Post 7604743)
put hank and dank on SO list next time

thx

sedins haven't done well in the shootout historically i believe. daniel is of course better than henrik in this case.

MG1 10-07-2011 10:05 AM

Looking forward to next game.

kristianhay 10-07-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 7605124)
sedins haven't done well in the shootout historically i believe. daniel is of course better than henrik in this case.

I think that Daniels carrer S/O stats are actually better than Samuelssons. What is he now, 1/9?

spoon.ek9 10-07-2011 10:12 AM

whoa, have to wait until monday? boo :(

dbaz 10-07-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nodnarb (Post 7605005)
always thought we had the same if not more in schneider? he's only been our backup for 2 yrs... how long have you been a fan?

stats padded by playing in the SE? he has the best record of any goaltender over the past 5 years (in case you missed it during last night's broadcast). Lets do some math here... came to Vancouver in 2006.. 2011 - 2006 = yep, you guessed it, 5 years. :failed:

Way too easy to hate on Lu. It's almost a bandwagon in itself.

All the people not realizing what we have in Luongo is tiresome. I'm not saying he's the be all end all, but he's a damn good goaltender. If you can't appreciate what he's done then you really don't know what you're talking about and are joining the rest of the armchair GMs out there who would have made the mistake of trading Lu years ago.

/rant

I guess you saw the part about se division, raged and posted. I said he also greatly benefited from good canucks teams in front of him every year. The only year he did play up to what hes been hyped to is the year we lost to anaheim in the second round. He played like an elite goaltender that year, I'll give him that. I'm not one to ignore it when he deserves credit. But even if you look at that, whos fault was it for that loss in the elimination game. It comes down to luongo yelling at a ref instead of saving the puck. But seriously, never have I seen an "elite" goalie flop, miss the puck and give up so many shitty goals. As for schnieder I guess since you've only noticed him 2 years in the NHL, nothing else matters. Screw the AHL, NCAA etc. Personally I've seen him playing since college. It's not hard to tell when a goalies gonna be good, and it only helps to judge when you've played goalie yourself. Especially when hes that positionally sound. Your argument about schnieder is basically like saying when stamkos first joined the league: steven stamkos has never played in the league hes going to suck.
I've never been a Luongo fan, I am in no way on his "bandwagon".

murd0c 10-07-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 7605131)
whoa, have to wait until monday? boo :(

That's great news. It's a long weekend and I'm going to Sechelt drinking :)


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