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hypediss 10-26-2011 12:52 PM

lu was stopping an avg of 2k shots per season a few years back now he's facing less shots and required to make those quality saves

he was the type of goalie that gets on his game when he faces a lot of shots - now he's adapting to a style of play where he wont be facing 30-40 shots per night..


just my 0.02

pure.life 10-26-2011 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pure.life (Post 7625514)
Trades aside... this is a nice photo of Schneids
http://2.cdn.nhle.com/canucks/images...5292_slide.jpg

In schnoo we trust tonight

btw, I can't find high-res photo for those who asked

Tim Budong 10-26-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pure.life (Post 7629845)
In schnoo we trust tonight

btw, I can't find high-res photo for those who asked

i think this is gettyimage properties

Noir 10-26-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by b0unce. [?] (Post 7629538)
it's frustrating that Lu is letting in garbage goals most of the time and the fact that he's playing well below his standard. although you can pray and hope for lucky bounces and posts, but at the end of the day, Lu has got to stop the puck more often. fans and probably including myself for the most part, would over look it a bit if our offence was playing better as well.
listening to team1040 after the game, there were a ton of callers commenting that they felt the team was playing sloppier in front of Lu because they expect him to stop pucks. and that the team would try harder when schneids is in net because he's the back up.
i almost want to say it should be the other way around at this point. panic when Lu starts in net and play calm and worry-free when schneids is in between the pipes.

I don't buy it. When he lost the NYR, you don't get your shots limited to 20 and under because your defense was sloppy or non-existent.

Same thing with last night, you don't enter the period 0 - 0 because the D was also sloppy or non-existent on the 1st period. The problem is, each and every game, there will always be scoring chances on both sides, the odd times they get past our D, Lu should be the last line of defense; but that's not because the defense sucks, that's just hockey.


I mean, the Schneider save on Eberle, was that the result of the team suddenly play better around him? Nope, it's just the same team in front with just another scoring chance for the other team.

jeedee 10-26-2011 03:19 PM

Let's just put the EDM game behind us and get ready for tonights game vs the Blues
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spideyv2 10-26-2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 7629923)
I don't buy it. When he lost the NYR, you don't get your shots limited to 20 and under because your defense was sloppy or non-existent.

Same thing with last night, you don't enter the period 0 - 0 because the D was also sloppy or non-existent on the 1st period. The problem is, each and every game, there will always be scoring chances on both sides, the odd times they get past our D, Lu should be the last line of defense; but that's not because the defense sucks, that's just hockey.


I mean, the Schneider save on Eberle, was that the result of the team suddenly play better around him? Nope, it's just the same team in front with just another scoring chance for the other team.

the team always seems to get thrown under the bus when Lu under performs.

Bonka 10-26-2011 03:34 PM

Ditto that.

Lu has shown he can play well when the team in front of him plays well. It's about time that he steps up when the team stumbles.

JesseBlue 10-26-2011 03:42 PM

i still believe in luongo...he'll shut people up...i care about the playoffs and even if it stings a bit during the regular season, i'll put up with it...

Gh0stRider 10-26-2011 03:49 PM

working the Olympia tunnel again. Awwww YEAAAAAAAAAAA
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DanHibiki 10-26-2011 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 7629923)
I don't buy it. When he lost the NYR, you don't get your shots limited to 20 and under because your defense was sloppy or non-existent.

Same thing with last night, you don't enter the period 0 - 0 because the D was also sloppy or non-existent on the 1st period. The problem is, each and every game, there will always be scoring chances on both sides, the odd times they get past our D, Lu should be the last line of defense; but that's not because the defense sucks, that's just hockey.


I mean, the Schneider save on Eberle, was that the result of the team suddenly play better around him? Nope, it's just the same team in front with just another scoring chance for the other team.

Luongo has made TONS of highlight reel saves just like Schneider did last night. But I don't judge how good a goaltender is based on desperation saves because that is all they are, lucky, at the right time, desperation saves. 9 out of 10 times that puck would have gone in. And this isn't knocking Schneider but just saying that you can't base how good a goalie is on desperation saves.

Now the game against NYR. The way I see it is the Canucks were owning them. Peppering them with 30+ shots and not getting rewarded for it. It's frustrating. So when NYR gets that first goal in the 3rd period, it put the whole team on tilt. And you know that when you go on tilt, it's only downhill from there.

If the Canucks got the first goal, I bet we would have seen a much different game.

MisterMu 10-26-2011 04:10 PM

I seriously don't know whether I'm watching the same game as most of you guys. How can you be bashing Lu on goals where the defence was pretty much non-existent and gave the shooters time to pick top corners. Last night against the oilers, only the second goal seemed suspect yet you guys go around running your mouth like all those other goals werent quality chances where Lu had little to no chance.

Look through all the goals that Lu let in and see how many were one timers in the slot wide open, 2 on 1s, top corner shots, or complete breakdowns in the defence. There are 6 players on the ice for a reason.

Seriously, no wonder the rest of the hockey world thinks Vancouver fans are a joke.
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Noir 10-26-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DanHibiki (Post 7630022)
Luongo has made TONS of highlight reel saves just like Schneider did last night. But I don't judge how good a goaltender is based on desperation saves because that is all they are, lucky, at the right time, desperation saves. 9 out of 10 times that puck would have gone in. And this isn't knocking Schneider but just saying that you can't base how good a goalie is on desperation saves.

Now the game against NYR. The way I see it is the Canucks were owning them. Peppering them with 30+ shots and not getting rewarded for it. It's frustrating. So when NYR gets that first goal in the 3rd period, it put the whole team on tilt. And you know that when you go on tilt, it's only downhill from there.

If the Canucks got the first goal, I bet we would have seen a much different game.

Although I mentioned him, I wasn't talking about Lu. What I was addressing, is the defense and the typical fanbase mantra of: "Our defense sucks."

Do people really believe we should blow our core top 2 pairings of:

Edler - Salo
Bieksa - Hammer

Or or people thinking our plugger pairing is at fault:

Alberts - Ballard
Rome + (rotating call ups)

Heck, should the franchise spend $6 - $7M on a norris calibre defensemen the likes of Lidstrom, Pronger, Keith, Doughty... that'll be the end of scoring chances against Lu? Looks like a certain contingent of the fanbase needs to be a lot more in touch with reality than the one they like to criticize.



Besides, I already mentioned in a previous post, Luongo's quick 3 goals against in EDM hopefully would be his own wake up call; because it sure did look like it when he got pulled.

DanHibiki 10-26-2011 05:46 PM

I'm surprised AV didn't start Lu this game. He's usually good at bounce back games.

spideyv2 10-26-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterMu (Post 7630042)
I seriously don't know whether I'm watching the same game as most of you guys. How can you be bashing Lu on goals where the defence was pretty much non-existent and gave the shooters time to pick top corners. Last night against the oilers, only the second goal seemed suspect yet you guys go around running your mouth like all those other goals werent quality chances where Lu had little to no chance.

Look through all the goals that Lu let in and see how many were one timers in the slot wide open, 2 on 1s, top corner shots, or complete breakdowns in the defence. There are 6 players on the ice for a reason.

Seriously, no wonder the rest of the hockey world thinks Vancouver fans are a joke.
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D surrenders 20 shots, let in 4 goals

Strong logic, brah

b0unce. [?] 10-26-2011 06:01 PM

best stream for the game online? i can't find a solid feed

k3mps 10-26-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by b0unce. [?] (Post 7630172)
best stream for the game online? i can't find a solid feed

http://www.justin.tv/sortsall_35?#/w/1971039632

JesseBlue 10-26-2011 06:09 PM

NHL: St.Louis Blues vs Vancouver Canucks Live Stream Online TV Vivo

MG1 10-26-2011 06:09 PM

Welcome, MisterMu.

I felt that need to thank you, but accidentally hit the fail button......... too late to change it now.:whistle:

b0unce. [?] 10-26-2011 06:11 PM

YEAH U SIT THERE LU

pure.life 10-26-2011 06:12 PM

Why are the boards purple?

b0unce. [?] 10-26-2011 06:14 PM

bieksa is already having a shitty start to this game.

JesseBlue 10-26-2011 06:14 PM

can't get out of the zone...and when they do its back to the defensive zone already...

Domed 10-26-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pure.life (Post 7630195)
Why are the boards purple?

breast cancer awareness

MG1 10-26-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Domed (Post 7630201)
breast awareness

Fixed


It conditions men's eyes to see big breasts better

DanHibiki 10-26-2011 06:21 PM

Who's #52 on the Canucks? I was paying fully attention to the game and I didn't get a chance to see his name


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