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spoon.ek9 06-25-2011 07:47 PM

there's still rumours about florida wanting to take lu back :facepalm:

i can't believe how gullible some people are hah

Ronin 06-25-2011 07:48 PM

No one would give a shit about this Yuen kid if he wasn't Asian. C'mon...he's got some talent but c'mon...is it that big of a deal?

murd0c 06-25-2011 07:52 PM

sometimes I wish I could go into the future and find out the best high round draft picks so I can tell the Canucks LOL

JesseBlue 06-25-2011 08:15 PM

If I can go to the future...I wouldnt be looking for hockey info...Ala hot tub time machine

jeedee 06-25-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanHibiki (Post 7490170)
I remember there was an article about Edler and only us, Detroit, and one other team scouted Edler and really wanted him.

Yeah I think I read the same article on TheHockeyNews. It was only the Canucks and Detroit interested in Edler. The Detroit scout didn't bother to look at Edler and one Canucks scout actually made the trip down to Sweden and watch him play. If it wasn't for that scout, today, Edler would be playing for Detroit.

Edit: Found the article:

Quote:

In 2004, Detroit Red Wings super scout Hakan Andersson heard there was a big, strong-skating, draft-eligible defensemen playing for an obscure team in Ostersund, Sweden. The low-level loop described by some as little better than a beer league wasn't a place NHL scouts searched for prospects, but Andersson believed it was worth making the six-hour drive from his home to check the player out in person.

Not wanting to make the drive only to find out the kid wasn't playing, Andersson called ahead to make sure he was. Ostersund's coach, realizing he might have a diamond in the rough on his hands, contacted agent Johan Stromberg who promptly signed the prospect and sent out word to NHL teams that he knew of a blueliner from a small-time team they'd be interested in seeing.

But it was late in the season. Ostersund had one game remaining and wasn't going to make the playoffs, so NHL teams had a lone chance to see the player before the draft.

Vancouver's Thomas Gradin was the only scout who made the trip and he must have liked what he saw. Worrying the Wings would snag the defenseman, the Canucks traded up in the third round of the 2004 draft to select Alex Edler seven slots before Detroit was selecting.

The Red Wings who were indeed planning on scooping Edler that round, ended up with Johan Franzen instead. Not too shabby.

But what if Andersson hadn't made that fateful phone call? Edler might currently be manning the Detroit blueline. Franzen would have been drafted by another NHL team and never signed an 11-year pact with Detroit.

And with no need for a big, puck-moving defensemen at the 2005 draft, the Red Wings likely wouldn't have drafted Jakub Kindl. Instead Detroit could have taken a scorer - Nicklas Bergfors, Andrew Cogliano or T.J. Oshie were available, as was netminder Tuuka Rask.

gars 06-25-2011 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 7490186)
No one would give a shit about this Yuen kid if he wasn't Asian. C'mon...he's got some talent but c'mon...is it that big of a deal?

My last name is actually Yuen, so I want him for purely selfish reasons. I'd actually consider getting a Jets jersey if he actually plays decently.

spideyv2 06-26-2011 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 7490185)
there's still rumours about florida wanting to take lu back :facepalm:

i can't believe how gullible some people are hah

They probably do want him, too bad they won't get him :fullofwin:
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b0unce. [?] 06-26-2011 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayare604 (Post 7490457)
They probably do want him, too bad they won't get him :fullofwin:
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at this point im happy with luongo if he wants to stay. but the door is open for him to leave if he wants :) i'd be fine with schnieder as our full time guy between the pipes ;)

spoon.ek9 06-26-2011 08:32 AM

i'd be a bit nervous to rely fully on cory at this point in time. yes, he's a solid backup but he didn't exactly play the toughest teams last season. also, who would be his backup? eddie lack? lol

our window to win is still here but it won't last forever. we need all hands on deck.

LSF22 06-26-2011 09:45 AM

Oilers acquire Ryan Smyth from LA for Colin Fraser and a 7th round pick in 2012 draft

as per TSN.ca

spoon.ek9 06-26-2011 10:16 AM

eh? i thought the trade was for Brule and a 4th rounder..?

LSF22 06-26-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 7490663)
eh? i thought the trade was for Brule and a 4th rounder..?


the brule trade got rejected cuz LA was gonna just buy out his contract, but its not allowed cuz brule is injured at the moment...
against NHLPA rules or something...

Simulated 06-26-2011 10:44 AM

still kinda odd how they downgraded from a 4th rounder to 7th round.

as for luongo, it's sad that so many would like to see this guy shipped out. i've never shown much support for luongo over the years but he still is our best chance at a cup. we can't afford to trade him NOW only to find out the hard way that schneids can't do it either. you don't get 15 playoff wins in a year by fluke. vancouver is a tough market for goalies. schneids may be solid as a backup but what if he can't handle the pressure of being the #1 in vancouver? that's a risk i don't wanna take when our main guys are now all hitting their primes right now.

LSF22 06-26-2011 11:00 AM

no offense to fraser either, but hes def a downgrade from brule too.... didnt make sense to me either

RiceIntegraRS 06-26-2011 11:11 AM

The LA-EDM deal is more of a salary dump than anything else i believe. They just picked up Mike Richards and Drew Doughty is probably set to be the highest paid player on that team, or at the very least close to it. And they still have a bunch of players yet to sign

Jermyzy 06-26-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanHibiki (Post 7490159)
This was due to some legal complications and not because he was a diamond in the rough.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_B...2.80.931991.29

I don't follow hockey so bear with me, as I watch mostly NBA. Do players have to declare for the NHL draft or can teams just draft any player that is "eligible" (e.g. if Pavel Bure was not eligible, how did he get entry to the draft?) In the NBA, players who are draft-eligible must declare themselves to be part of the draft in order to be drafted by teams...

Tim Budong 06-26-2011 06:14 PM

yea he's asian..thats why he's getting more publicity than usual for a low ranked kid
but the scouts had him much higher with his size...here is his post draft interview with BUTTFUGLY.....talking about the canucks....his past, and other things

http://www.myspace.com/video/nhl/zac...view/107998613

spideyv2 06-26-2011 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 7491045)
yea he's asian..thats why he's getting more publicity than usual for a low ranked kid
but the scouts had him much higher with his size...here is his post draft interview with BUTTFUGLY.....talking about the canucks....his past, and other things

http://www.myspace.com/video/nhl/zac...view/107998613

Man...imagine how happy that kid would be in the interview if the Canucks selected him

cliffhanger33 06-26-2011 08:35 PM

Personally wished Canucks found a much stronger and tougher blueliner who can finish his checks, would have been a great contribution to the team.
Nicklas Jensen is a great winger, but hmm, it doesnt add much to the team imo as plenty of the canucks already have the skill and tool of Jensen.

But I'm confident for the next season :thumbsup:

goo3 06-26-2011 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simulated (Post 7490681)
still kinda odd how they downgraded from a 4th rounder to 7th round.

Yeah, more about dumping salary than the players

Quote:

Sources say the Kings were willing to accept Brule as part of the deal with the intent of buying him out, however the collective bargaining agreement forbids teams from buying out an injured player.

The Kings were then willing to trade Smyth for a 7th round pick without including Brule in the deal but the Oilers wanted to move out some salary.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370077

nosaj 06-26-2011 09:44 PM

Happy birthday Alex Bolduc! :)

murd0c 06-26-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nosaj (Post 7491303)
Happy birthday Alex Bolduc! :)

Canucks Twitter eh :D

b0unce. [?] 06-26-2011 09:58 PM

it's always ''cool'' to draft a hometown kid, but in the end, all that matters is building a winning team.

SkinnyPupp 06-26-2011 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffhanger33 (Post 7491206)
Personally wished Canucks found a much stronger and tougher blueliner who can finish his checks, would have been a great contribution to the team.
Nicklas Jensen is a great winger, but hmm, it doesnt add much to the team imo as plenty of the canucks already have the skill and tool of Jensen.

But I'm confident for the next season :thumbsup:

What's weird is that they had a great young winger in Michael Grabner, but dealt him because he wasn't "gritty" enough. Then he turned out to be a Calder candidate. Then they go and draft another young Dansih winger who also isn't gritty.. like wtf?

jeedee 06-26-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7491367)
What's weird is that they had a great young winger in Michael Grabner, but dealt him because he wasn't "gritty" enough. Then he turned out to be a Calder candidate. Then they go and draft another young Dansih winger who also isn't gritty.. like wtf?

The reason he turned out to be a Calder candidate is because of his numbers he put up with the Islanders, on their second line.

There was NO way at all that Grabner would be playing on our current top 6 lineup before we dealt him. He would be a 4th liner at most with the Canucks system. He had more icetime with the Islanders, and would've had barely any icetime with us.


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