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7seven 06-27-2011 11:25 AM

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FarhanLaljiTSN Farhan Lalji
by capgeek
Bieksa's deal is 5 years, 4.6 million per. With a no trade clause. #Canucks
The thing the Nucks need to be careful with is the NTC and these ~5mil > per cap hits. With Edler and Burrows due up in a couple years, don't need to be handcuffed.

Ronin 06-27-2011 11:27 AM

With Bieksa's $4.7m, the Canucks are now at $50.4m for next year so they have $13.9m to spend.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Raymond-Kesler-Samuelsson
$ - Malhotra - $
No fourth line yet

Edler $
Hamhuis Bieksa
Rome Ballard

So we have 5 forward and one D spot to fill with $13.9m. Easy even if Ehrhoff gets $6m but let's assume he gets $5.5m.

Ehrhoff $5.5
Torres $1.5
Hansen $1.25
Lapierre $1.25
Oreo $800k
Glass $800k
Tamby $800k

And still got $2m under the cap.

I would prefer to keep Hansen and Lappy but I also think we might see some of the prospects play up on the 3rd and 4th line this year.

The problem I see is that all these contracts will still be going in 2 years and in '13-14, Malhotra, Edler and Burrows could all be up for a raise...Burr especially as he's been playing for $2m, which is insanity for a guy that scores 35 goals.

Simulated 06-27-2011 11:30 AM

i'd like to see tanev play more this year.

RacingMetro92 06-27-2011 11:34 AM

Hopefully the Canucks find someway to unload Ballard to another team to free up that cap space. Tanev and Rome can fill out the bottom pair, and is Parent even a viable option on the D-line? He is on a one-way deal isn't he?

Ch28 06-27-2011 11:37 AM

Canucks need to stop handing out NTC like candy with all their contracts

b0unce. [?] 06-27-2011 11:37 AM

maybe hodgsen will finally crack the line up. seems like the kid has been in the minors for decades.

7seven 06-27-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Form>Function (Post 7491859)
and is Parent even a viable option on the D-line? He is on a one-way deal isn't he?

Yup, 1 way deal left with 1 more year at $925k

trancehead 06-27-2011 11:39 AM

To be honest i was hoping Bieksa's cap hit would not come too close to, or even exceed that of Hamhuis's. But at least we have another blueliner secured. Hopefully the german's cap hit doesn't sky rocket

Mizter 06-27-2011 11:41 AM

Text from TSN says its 5 years for 23million

7seven 06-27-2011 11:41 AM

I'm hoping for a very limited NTC or no NTC for Ehrhoff. Right now we have Sedins, Kesler, Lu, Hamhuis, Bieska and Maholtra with NTC.

lol 06-27-2011 11:44 AM

Does anyone agree with me that they dislike they idea of rule changes pertaining to points awarded per game, moving teams to diff conferences etc makes the game less i duno "traditional". I don't think that's the right word. But it makes it hard to compare todays NHL to hockey 10 years ago because shit was so different. It's hard to gauge any type of trends when teams are moving around, conferences and divisions switch, lets not forget the new scheduling (canucks barely playing any east coast teams and vise versa anymore).

I understand its critical to make changes to the game to keep it entertaining for fans and safe for players.

Maybe i'm just old lol

Expresso 06-27-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 7491863)
Canucks need to stop handing out NTC like candy with all their contracts

The sad fact is there was no way the Bieksa deal would have been done without an NTC. You gotta give to get. If you want Bieksa to take lower than market value you have to give something in return.

spoon.ek9 06-27-2011 11:50 AM

good to see bieksa sticking around!

Ronin 06-27-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 7491872)
I'm hoping for a very limited NTC or no NTC for Ehrhoff. Right now we have Sedins, Kesler, Lu, Hamhuis, Bieska and Maholtra with NTC.

There are worse problems than having those guys under NTCs.

For a little perspective, Calgary gave Matt Stajan a NTC...and, well, there's no other way to describe his magnificence except that he had 31 points in 76 games last year and he's making $3.5m.

Oh what's that? The Leafs, you say? Oh, they have Mike Komisarek (1-9-10, -8, 86PIM, 146 hits, 117 blocks) under a NTC. He'll be making $6,000,000 this year, $4.5 against the cap. What's he need a NTC for? Who's retarded enough to trade for that contract!?

At least all our NTCs are given to real players.

RacingMetro92 06-27-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 7491863)
Canucks need to stop handing out NTC like candy with all their contracts

Bieksa was prime trade bait at the deadline this season. The NTC, I assume, would give Juice the peace of mind that he's here for good and give the Canucks a big discount in return cause he likes it here.

spoon.ek9 06-27-2011 11:56 AM

i think the cat was out of the bag when we heard he was renovating his apartment :troll:

nubtub 06-27-2011 11:57 AM

http://www.facebook.com/Canucks/posts/10150264968227145

you guys gotta see this. there are some real retarded people in this city lol one guy proposed tanner glass (UFA) and hansen (RFA) for corey perry

spoon.ek9 06-27-2011 11:59 AM

sounds like a mike murphy trade

Great68 06-27-2011 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lol (Post 7491877)
Does anyone agree with me that they dislike they idea of rule changes pertaining to points awarded per game, moving teams to diff conferences etc makes the game less i duno "traditional". I don't think that's the right word. But it makes it hard to compare todays NHL to hockey 10 years ago because shit was so different. It's hard to gauge any type of trends when teams are moving around, conferences and divisions switch, lets not forget the new scheduling (canucks barely playing any east coast teams and vise versa anymore).

I understand its critical to make changes to the game to keep it entertaining for fans and safe for players.

Maybe i'm just old lol

I'd like to have at least one home & away game against every eastern conference team per season.

Ronin 06-27-2011 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nubtub (Post 7491888)
http://www.facebook.com/Canucks/posts/10150264968227145

you guys gotta see this. there are some real retarded people in this city lol one guy proposed tanner glass (UFA) and hansen (RFA) for corey perry

Did Mike Milbury get a job in Anaheim?

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 7491887)
i think the cat was out of the bag when we heard he was renovating his apartment :troll:

Not really. Lots of players keep off-season homes where they started their careers. Look at Luongo's house in Florida. Jovo heads back there each year too, for example.

Simulated 06-27-2011 12:02 PM

the NTC makes sense given setoguchi just got traded a day after signing his contract. i'd imagine that he must be pissed thinking he can play for the sharks who are still contending to now play for the wild instead. i don't think bieksa would have wanted that if he were to take less money to stay in vancouver.

nubtub 06-27-2011 12:03 PM

canucks need to get rid of ballard for a top six. it sucks that they gave up so much for him to be put in the press box by AV

nubtub 06-27-2011 12:04 PM

YAY!

http://fortnucks.blogspot.com/2011/0...hon-mason.html

good to see him happy and well

spoon.ek9 06-27-2011 12:06 PM

i still think ballard should be traded as well. for the benefit of himself and the canucks. if we aren't going to use the guy at $4.2mil, trade him already....

nubtub 06-27-2011 12:10 PM

^ after july 1st and all the d-men are gone, I think teams will actually start calling for him...probably be lowballing since the situation with him and AV blew up but maybe for a top 6 forward. that would be nice..


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