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With his 10th last night, Daniel is now the franchise leader in OT goals - one more than... Brendan Morrison.
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__________________ Do Not Put Aftershave on Your Balls. -604CEFIRO Looks like I'm gonna have some hot sex again tonight...OOPS i got the 6 pack. that wont last me the night, I better go back and get the 24 pack! -Turbo E kinda off topic but obama is a dilf - miss_crayon Honest to fucking Christ the easiest way to get a married woman in the mood is clean the house and do the laundry.....I've been with the same girl almost 17 years, ask me how I know. - quasi
Have any of u guys notice how biased TSN SportsCentre Broadcasters are, against the Canucks? First thing i noticed is when they called Kronwalls Hit on Kesler Clean and when they were saying Ballards hit was similiar to Marchands hit on Salo.
Towards the end of the game, when they were commenting on how few penalties there have been, they said outright that the Ballard penalty was a bad call, and it shouldn't have been a penalty...
Meanwhile, Toronto blew a 4-1 lead in the 3rd and ended up losing 5-4 to Pittsburgh in the SO last night.
__________________ Do Not Put Aftershave on Your Balls. -604CEFIRO Looks like I'm gonna have some hot sex again tonight...OOPS i got the 6 pack. that wont last me the night, I better go back and get the 24 pack! -Turbo E kinda off topic but obama is a dilf - miss_crayon Honest to fucking Christ the easiest way to get a married woman in the mood is clean the house and do the laundry.....I've been with the same girl almost 17 years, ask me how I know. - quasi
Towards the end of the game, when they were commenting on how few penalties there have been, they said outright that the Ballard penalty was a bad call, and it shouldn't have been a penalty...
Im talkin about the people on sportscentre. Dan otool, jay onright, jennifer hedger ect. Those people Posted via RS Mobile
Canucks’ Cory conundrum: Keep or reap the benefits of a trade?
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VANCOUVER — Join us now as we plunge into shark-infested waters, fully aware of the perils, of the certain management pooh-poohing to come, of the arguments and counter-arguments, and of the impending umbrage of the most combustible fan base this side of Montreal (minus the 24 Stanley Cups).
To you, we present the great Cory Schneider debate, known to many fans outside Vancouver (and Winnipeg) as: “Schneider ... Schneider ... where do I know that name from?” Should the Vancouver Canucks trade Roberto Luongo’s gifted, playoff-ready backup goalie at the deadline, or at the very least, shop him in advance of it, to see what they might snag? Or should they keep the big redhead as playoff insurance before dealing him at the June draft?
The debate rears its head anew each time Schneider steps between the pipes and excels, as he did most notably in a 43-save, 3-2 November win at San Jose, January’s still-echoing 4-3 road thriller in Boston, and in Tuesday’s 3-2 overtime win against the Chicago Blackhawks.
No slouches, those teams, and no coincidence that the backup has been in goal to face them. He is either being prepped for a potentially bigger playoff role (unlikely), or showcased (more likely) or merely keeping Luongo’s workload down (definitely).
Whatever the reason given, the Schneider-Luongo conundrum is becoming a recurring theme, intriguing even to the many-headed national TV panels, and is sure to remain so in the 25 days before the trade deadline.
A conspicuous asset, largely wasted on the market where he is currently employed, will do that. Usually it’s when a team going nowhere has a good player it cannot re-sign, but sometimes it happens when a team that is (or thinks it is) on the cusp of greatness has a clear surplus at one position and a clear need at another.
Enter the Canucks, who had two chances to win one game for the Stanley Cup last spring, yet weren’t really very close, by the end.
Since then, they have lost defenceman Christian Ehrhoff and not replaced him, they have added winger David Booth, who has shown flashes of promise as a top-six forward, and they have essentially gained a first-class rookie, Cody Hodgson who, at 21, after a couple of false starts, has finally given them an element of scoring depth they never had before.
But do they have enough to go all the way? Or is their window of opportunity to win a Cup — and the windows are seemingly much narrower, these days, everywhere but Detroit — in danger of closing, if they don’t make the most of this run? Can they risk losing another chance because of a move they were reluctant to make?
The “trade him now” argument is pretty straightforward.
He’s not much use to the Canucks, manning the gate to the bench in April (and possibly May and June). Backup goalies almost never win a team the Stanley Cup, and usually only get in when the cause is lost. Last year, Schneider came in after Luongo was yanked in three games — two against Chicago, one in Boston — and he started Game 6 of the Chicago series. The Canucks lost all of them.
But he is so fundamentally sound, as anyone who sees him regularly knows — and at 25, still entering prime time — that if GM Mike Gillis finds the right trading partner, he might net the Canucks the sort of impact player that would allow them to survive the two-month playoff grind this time: a no-nonsense power forward or a plausible top-four defenceman for when one of theirs inevitably goes down.
The more cautious “hold onto him” case is not without merit, either.
The Canucks were badly battered by the time of the Cup final last year. Ryan Kesler had torn a hip muscle against San Jose and was a shadow of himself. Dan Hamhuis was lost for the duration after delivering a hip-check. Mason Raymond broke his back when hit by Johnny Boychuk. Aaron Rome was suspended. Ehrhoff was beat up. And they still got to Game 7. They could do so again, without losing Schneider, and maybe this time be luckier.
Sure, it’s possible they could run into the same buzz-saw once more, if both they and Boston made it that far, and the Bruins stayed as healthy as they did a year ago. But other than Raymond’s, the injuries were not a result of being bullied. So do they need more horses?
And if they traded Schneider on or before Feb. 27, Luongo would have to play almost all the games in the last six weeks of the regular season, meaning that the plan for him to be daisy-fresh in the playoffs would be down the tubes.
And what if Luongo got hurt, late in the season or along the playoff trail? Unless they got a goalie back as part of a larger trade, the Canucks couldn’t possibly be comfortable handing the keys to 2011 AHL rookie all-star Eddie Lack, who at the moment is being outplayed on the farm team by 29-year-old journeyman Matt Climie.
And then, of course: who, exactly, is that trading partner?
The only teams needing a crack goaltender at the deadline are teams with ideas of making a long run. Anyone else could wait until June.
So which teams (almost certainly in the East; Gillis would be unlikely to trade him in-conference, and risk having him come back to haunt him early) need a goalie badly enough to part with an important skater? Philly? After investing heavily in Ilya Bryzgalov? New Jersey, in case soon-to-be-40 Marty Brodeur powers out? Washington, where Thomas Vokoun’s numbers aren’t blowing anybody away? Toronto, which is probably too busy trying to figure out whether Jonas Gustavsson or James Reimer, or both, or neither, is the real thing?
But here’s what seems to tips the scales: the playoffs in the West, this year, are going to be frightening. Just emerging alive on the other side is going to take all hands on deck.
Can the Vancouver Canucks afford to have one of those hands tied behind their back, wearing a baseball cap?
CBJ at LA, game tied 2-2, Kings in Jackets zone pressing them and arena time clock pauses at 1.8 seconds for a full second while play continues, Kings score with 0.3 seconds left and win the game
CBJ at LA, game tied 2-2, Kings in Jackets zone pressing them and arena time clock pauses at 1.8 seconds for a full second while play continues, Kings score with 0.3 seconds left and win the game
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Dude this is so not cool.
