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Gh0stRider · 03-23-2012, 06:26 PM

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Gh0stRider · 03-23-2012, 07:45 PM

@tsn_news: Canucks confirm that Daniel Sedin has a concussion Canucks confirm that Daniel Sedin has a concussion

cliffhanger33 · 03-23-2012, 07:55 PM

Dam....

Well it was expected..... although we hoped it wouldn't be that.

subordinate · 03-23-2012, 08:16 PM

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I hope Danny doesn't feel rushed for the playoffs.......It's pointless for him to rush things and play a couple of games, then relapse like Sid.

MG1 · 03-23-2012, 08:43 PM

The Canucks will just have to rally around him and make some adjustments. A good team should be able to do this. Players stepping it up, so to speak.

cliffhanger33 · 03-23-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MG1

The Canucks will just have to rally around him and make some adjustments. A good team should be able to do this. Players stepping it up, so to speak.

Yeah. Lots of players stepped up against Dallas yesterday.

Just won't be the same

Sentinel · 03-23-2012, 09:04 PM

Last time Daniel got hurt and was out for a number of games(2yrs ago via broken foot), Henrik stepped up and became the Art Ross and Hart winner. Maybe Hank will do the same again, start producing offensively.

cliffhanger33 · 03-23-2012, 09:05 PM

Just hope Daniel will be fine for the play offs

SkinnyPupp · 03-23-2012, 09:05 PM

Your time to shine, Mayray

mako · 03-23-2012, 09:06 PM

he's shined pretty good the last two games

Not really racist! · 03-23-2012, 10:09 PM

please dont rush daniel... please

Sentinel · 03-24-2012, 09:58 AM

I posted this on CDC. What do you guys think? This is in regards to implementing stiffer fines/suspensions.

Besides being suspended for x number of games. I think they should fine the player and the coach. Fining the player & the coach for the amount of games the player would be suspended for. The fine would go to NHLPA or any charity of the victim's team's choice.

Not sure what would be a suitable amount, guess it would depend on each player? Players who make >$3mill get fined $100,000 per game. Players who make <$3mill get fined $50,000 per game. Coaches get fined the same amount his player is paying.

Example,

Keith suspended for 5 games. He pays out $500,000. Quenville pays out $500,000. Total of $1mill.

This way players would think twice before committing to a hit. Coaches would get fined because they put those players out. Hopefully this would be a deterrence.

And they should implement a system for repeat offenders, after getting suspended 3x(separate occasions) they should get an automatic 10 games.

CRS · 03-24-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sentinel

I posted this on CDC. What do you guys think? This is in regards to implementing stiffer fines/suspensions.

Besides being suspended for x number of games. I think they should fine the player and the coach. Fining the player & the coach for the amount of games the player would be suspended for. The fine would go to NHLPA or any charity of the victim's team's choice.

Not sure what would be a suitable amount, guess it would depend on each player? Players who make >$3mill get fined $100,000 per game. Players who make <$3mill get fined $50,000 per game. Coaches get fined the same amount his player is paying.

Example,

Keith suspended for 5 games. He pays out $500,000. Quenville pays out $500,000. Total of $1mill.

This way players would think twice before committing to a hit. Coaches would get fined because they put those players out. Hopefully this would be a deterrence.

And they should implement a system for repeat offenders, after getting suspended 3x(separate occasions) they should get an automatic 10 games.

The pay that Keith would be getting for his missed games will be going to the NHLPA's emergency relief fund already.

UFO · 03-24-2012, 10:42 AM

I don't think stiffer fines/suspensions will accomplish anything. You can suspend a guy 10 games for the same play, but if that suspension only goes through 1 out of 3 times guys are going to keep pushing their luck

Keith threw the elbow because he had gotten away in the past with similar plays and no discipline.

Consistent on ice ref'ing and off ice discipline is what will speak the loudest in the long term.

clowe · 03-24-2012, 11:27 AM

I think teams should not be allowed to fill the position of the suspended player until he comes back. Since Keith is a defenseman, the Hawks should only be allowed to dress 5 D-men for the next 5 games and Keith's 28 mins/game would need to be distributed among the other 5 defenseman, so the other 5 guys would need to play on average, ~5:30 more per game.

This way, they might think twice before doing something stupid because it puts his team at a disadvantage and puts a lot of added pressure onto his teammates, because right now, the Hawks can just plug in Sean O'Donnell and he can eat up 15-18 minutes of Keith's ice time (albeit not as effectively of course) and the other 5 guys would only need to play an average of an additional 2 minutes/game

GrapeDrink · 03-24-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by clowe

I think teams should not be allowed to fill the position of the suspended player until he comes back. Since Keith is a defenseman, the Hawks should only be allowed to dress 5 D-men for the next 5 games and Keith's 28 mins/game would need to be distributed among the other 5 defenseman, so the other 5 guys would need to play on average, ~5:30 more per game.

This way, they might think twice before doing something stupid because it puts his team at a disadvantage and puts a lot of added pressure onto his teammates, because right now, the Hawks can just plug in Sean O'Donnell and he can eat up 15-18 minutes of Keith's ice time (albeit not as effectively of course) and the other 5 guys would only need to play an average of an additional 2 minutes/game

lol even if they did that, teams could find ways around that so easily, player positions are not set in stone. Assuming you meant dress 5 D, they would then be allowed to dress 13 F right, they could just dress a Defensemen under F, sharks do the opposite of that sometimes, they dress Vandermeer a Defensemen as their 12th F.

clowe · 03-24-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GrapeDrink

lol even if they did that, teams could find ways around that so easily, player positions are not set in stone. Assuming you meant dress 5 D, they would then be allowed to dress 13 F right, they could just dress a Defensemen under F, sharks do the opposite of that sometimes, they dress Vandermeer a Defensemen as their 12th F.

I meant, they would only be allowed to dress 12 forwards and 5 defensemen, but you're right, they could still easily circumvent it and not play their 3 minute 4th line goon and dress an extra D.

Ludepower · 03-24-2012, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentinel

I posted this on CDC. What do you guys think? This is in regards to implementing stiffer fines/suspensions.

Besides being suspended for x number of games. I think they should fine the player and the coach. Fining the player & the coach for the amount of games the player would be suspended for. The fine would go to NHLPA or any charity of the victim's team's choice.

Not sure what would be a suitable amount, guess it would depend on each player? Players who make >$3mill get fined $100,000 per game. Players who make <$3mill get fined $50,000 per game. Coaches get fined the same amount his player is paying.

Example,

Keith suspended for 5 games. He pays out $500,000. Quenville pays out $500,000. Total of $1mill.

This way players would think twice before committing to a hit. Coaches would get fined because they put those players out. Hopefully this would be a deterrence.

And they should implement a system for repeat offenders, after getting suspended 3x(separate occasions) they should get an automatic 10 games.

Add another fine of 2+ million dollar fine on the team. That'll make them feel the pinch. So that all levels of management feel the burden.

But goodluck getting everyone to agree on this issue.

pastarocket · 03-24-2012, 01:12 PM

Another Northwest Division title is on the line tonight. Bury the Avalanche!
Go Canucks go!!!

Okami · 03-24-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket

Another Northwest Division title is on the line tonight. Bury the Avalanche!
Go Canucks go!!!

clowe · 03-24-2012, 02:14 PM

X - Clinched Playoff spot
Y - Clinched Division
Z - Clinched Conference

jeedee · 03-24-2012, 02:28 PM

With Calgary losing, Canucks officially clinched the NW division

Mr.HappySilp · 03-24-2012, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentinel

I posted this on CDC. What do you guys think? This is in regards to implementing stiffer fines/suspensions.

Besides being suspended for x number of games. I think they should fine the player and the coach. Fining the player & the coach for the amount of games the player would be suspended for. The fine would go to NHLPA or any charity of the victim's team's choice.

Not sure what would be a suitable amount, guess it would depend on each player? Players who make >$3mill get fined $100,000 per game. Players who make <$3mill get fined $50,000 per game. Coaches get fined the same amount his player is paying.

Example,

Keith suspended for 5 games. He pays out $500,000. Quenville pays out $500,000. Total of $1mill.

This way players would think twice before committing to a hit. Coaches would get fined because they put those players out. Hopefully this would be a deterrence.

And they should implement a system for repeat offenders, after getting suspended 3x(separate occasions) they should get an automatic 10 games.

and to decerease the salary cap by 5x as well. Say in your example since the fine is 1m in total. The salary cap is decerease by 5m for next season. That will get management attention since they can no longer aquire the players they want becasue of the decerease in salary cap they got.

spideyv2 · 03-24-2012, 04:08 PM

Still can't believe the Blues are still on pace to win the Presidents Trophy

Ken Hitchcock

Not really racist! · 03-24-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp

and to decerease the salary cap by 5x as well. Say in your example since the fine is 1m in total. The salary cap is decerease by 5m for next season. That will get management attention since they can no longer aquire the players they want becasue of the decerease in salary cap they got.

sarcasm aside.. its hard to have GMs approve such things lmao