The Official 2011/2012 Canucks Thread

[dbaz]

Originally Posted by MG1

I have a confession to make. Just before game seven of last year's SCF, I was praying to Allah, Buddha, Jesus, Shiva, and the hockey gods that luigi would get injured in the first minute, Schneider would go in, and we win the cup.....


I say this now, because if I had said it back then, I would have been crucified - nailed to the cross.

dont feel bad. at the start of last season i predicted the canucks would make the finals. but would only win if schnieder played the final round.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by HachiSix

I wouldn't say that is far fetched. Ultimately, it may be a GM decision and not the Sedins. If Sedin production continues to decline, would you sign them to another long-term contract unless they took a sizable pay cut? Wouldn't be much different than parting with Naslund.

I don't disagree that its a possibility, but a very slim one IMO and certainly not something that will happen with 'little doubt'. For 2 seasons after this one, they will still be elite players. Their next contract will maybe be 3-5 years long to take them to possible retirement, and I am sure their 'decline in ability' will be taken into account both from a management and player persepctive and what the caphit number will be--it will not be higher than it is now especially if it is a longterm deal to take them into retirement. Parting with Naslund was completely different IMO. I see that more as Naslund getting run out of Vancouver and he lost the will to play the game, esp AV's game at that time. Naslund's final years of production would be acceptable at 3-4M/season had the Canucks chosen to even offer him a contract but its clear MG wanted a clean slate.

The Sedins are your franchise players and the face of the Canucks, they have shown they are willing to take a hometown discount and have also shown that they wanted to finish their careers as Canucks prior to MG saying he doesn't do those types of deals (a year before giving Lu his lifetime contract). If given a second chance, I think today's MG signs the Sedins to their 12 year deals

I'm not worried about their production for the next few years. They were both on fire at the beginning of the season, and only fell off the scoring leader list since ~January. Their production potential is still there, they are just not tapping into it right now for whatever reason. There are different reasons you can subscribe to explain this, but IMO I don't think a natural decline in their output ranks up high on that list at this point.

[spideyv2]

So you guys think the twins are actually on the decline and not just having a shitty season?

[Gh0stRider]

Originally Posted by Big Earl

Whats the history with you becoming a red wings fan? Sergei Fedorov?

pre lockout days

Yzerman, Probert, Fedorov, Konstantinov, Primeau, Cheveldae, Kozlov, Lapointe

[jeedee]

Originally Posted by jayare604

So you guys think the twins are actually on the decline and not just having a shitty season?

Who said they're on the decline? They're 31 years old, not 41.

They have more hockey in them to play and all players have slumps. Sedins are having one right now.

Its not just the Sedins "underachieving" this season. Heatley and Thornton are some examples of having a bad season.

[spideyv2]

Originally Posted by jeedee

Who said they're on the decline? They're 31 years old, not 41.

They have more hockey in them to play and all players have slumps. Sedins are having one right now.

Its not just the Sedins "underachieving" this season. Heatley and Thornton are some examples of having a bad season.

Read hachisix's post on the previous page about their production being on the decline.

Both thorton and heatly have had their production slip since last season, it's not just this year.

[AzNightmare]

Originally Posted by jayare604

So you guys think the twins are actually on the decline and not just having a shitty season?

bad season, I hope. But Kesler hasn't been doing all too well either.
I'm not all too concern yet. I assume it's just a slump, and see if they can generate during playoffs.

[Gh0stRider]

lol at guy behind bench

[spoon.ek9]

We all know the canucks haven't played their best hockey over the entire season this year and yet, we're 2nd in the west and just 2 points behind the Blues.

We all remember in Naslund's final year, the whole team slumped hard and missed the playoffs. I think the score in our final game of the season was 7-1 in favour of Calgary, IIRC.

If the Sedins/Burrows AND Kesler slumping = 2nd place finish in the west, then yeah, I'd say that's a lot better than the situation we had during Naslund's decline. I don't foresee MG giving up on back to back Art Ross Trophy winners because of one sloppy season.

[fsy82]

Originally Posted by jeedee

Who said they're on the decline? They're 31 years old, not 41.

They have more hockey in them to play and all players have slumps. Sedins are having one right now.

Its not just the Sedins "underachieving" this season. Heatley and Thornton are some examples of having a bad season.

Also consider the amount of games the canucks have played since last year.

[Expresso]

Originally Posted by jayare604

So you guys think the twins are actually on the decline and not just having a shitty season?

lol! I probably should have worded that better.

Was just pointing out re-signing the sedins is not a given. Anything can happen.

[Gh0stRider]

City says no live site celebrations for this year's playoff run

In a rather lame but precautionary move the City of Vancouver has decided to completely cancel any sort of viewing party in downtown Vancouver for the NHL playoffs. There were serious talks about viewing parties at BC Place, however, it looks like this won’t happen. At least not in the early rounds. Instead the City of Vancouver plans to host public viewing of games at community centres. Who wants to get drunk at a community centre? Okay not get hammered to the point of no return when mob mentality set in but a community centre doesn’t fit the occasion. High school formal, sure but not a playoff viewing party.

The City of Vancouver said they don’t want to shut down all celebrations during large events, but they want people to celebrate responsibly to minimize the risk to the public so as to avoid the events during the Stanley Cup final last year.

The City’s plans include implementing ideas such as allowing public viewing of games and celebrations at community centres, bars, pubs, and maybe theatres, should the Canucks advance into third and fourth rounds of the playoffs. But no crowds would be allowed downtown.

There will be no outside screens to watch the game.

The City said they are considering block parties, but those would have to be organized by an event planner and no alcohol would be allowed.

The Vancouver Canucks will be involved and have partnered with the City. They will also be matching the City’s funding for the celebrations, which could be between $50,000 to $100,000.


http://www.globaltvbc.com/city+says+...#ixzz1qLurbKIJ


wow...thats lame

[mj_39]

^ That SUCKS!!! Community centers? lol

[Gumby]

Seriously, after what happened last year, there is NO way the city will arrange outdoor viewing parties in the foreseeable future! Blame it on the stupid rioters!

[Tim Budong]

With the gong show that happened last year, is anyone surprised?
At the same time, will this stop people from POURING into downtown after games, even in the early rounds like last year?

but back on the Canucks..
Slumping or not, its 3w in a row.
but thats not the important stat. its how to play back to standards. Last nights game isn't 2011/2012 or even 2010/2011 Canucks hockey

[Gh0stRider]

from cknw

The city is also encouraging smaller events at pubs and restaurants, and alcohol-free events at community centres.

It also wants to see events around Vancouver, perhaps at Trout Lake or Hillcrest.

Key parts of the plan will include limiting alcohol and reducing crowds in the downtown core.

As for the police, steps have already been taken to improve communication between forces, including having a large events liason officer.

wow...NO FUN VANCOUVER

what are they gonna do? road block into downtown? shut down skytrain going downtown? stop it a stadium station?

[highfive]

Looking at how the west is unfolding, I feel that 2nd place isn't so bad at all.

The looks of it is that if Stl finishes 1st, they would probably have to face the winner of Nash/Det in the 2nd round.

[Tim Budong]

The Canucks lose the tiebreak between STL anyways

The dog fight to make the playoffs in the west is an exciting one to watch
Theres even a chance that Pittsburgh can take the presidents trophy

[hotshot1]

As a city, we've proven time and time again that we don't deserve fun things - 94' riot, Guns-N-Roses concert, 2011 Finals.

Maybe if the Canucks start winning a few championships, it wouldn't mean as much, so maybe people wouldn't get so rowdy. Oh well.

[rsx]

What a bunch of bullshit, let the terrorists win.

With that mentality they should just enact prohibition to curb unwanted behaviours.

[bballguy]

Originally Posted by darthchilli

Theres even a chance that Pittsburgh can take the presidents trophy

What you mean EVEN a chance? If you ask me, I'd say they are the most likely to win it...They are a close 3rd in terms of point percentage, and are the hottest team in the league...

[b0unce. [?]]

everyone should just smoke pot

[CPE]

Weren't they just saying that they were thinking about opening BC place for playoff games?

[spideyv2]

Manny Malhotra named as a 2012 Masterton Nominee

Vancouver, B.C. -Manny Malhotra was been nominated by the Vancouver chapter of the Professional Hockey Writers' Association as the Canucks nominee for the Masterton Trophy which is awarded annually to the player who best exemplifies the qualities of perseverance, sportsmanship and dedication to hockey.

"It's obviously very special — especially with what the Masterton stands for," said Malhotra. "You look back at the guys who have won in the past and what they've overcome and triumphed over in very serious situations. To be thought of in that regard, is very humbling to me. Whether I win or not is irrelevant. Being held in that regard is pretty special to me."

It's been a special challenge for Malhotra to recover from a March 16, 2011 incident when a deflected puck struck him during a game against the Colorado Avalanche and four subsequent procedures on the injured eye. He has maintained dominance in the faceoff circle with a 58.2 per cent efficiency — sixth in the NHL — and has seven goals and 18 points in 73 games.

"Manny as a person, is one of the best individuals I've ever met in my life as far as dealing with and getting it," said Canucks coach Alain Vigneault.

IMO, Mason Raymond could have been our nominee too

[AzNightmare]

lol... Maybe this will teach the troublemakers to not riot anymore.
But who knows... The troublemakers probably are like
cause they never cared to watch the game in the first place.

Oh well, doesn't affect me. I like watching my important playoff games at home un-distracted.