Jaguar : cost to maintain, and reliable?

[wasabisashimi]

i came across this http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pm...465315850.html

It seems very cheap for a car that can run with Merc E55, or the older M5.

Will this be expensive to upkeep and will it be reliable enough that I dont spend alot of time in the shop?

I've had mostly imports : honda, nissan in the past, Will this be the worst investment as far as reliability and bang for the buck.

[dangonay]

Take it to Silk Cat in North Van and get them to do a pre-purchase for you.

DO NOT buy that car without an inspection.
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[doma]

Well for starters its a fucking jag. So yeah its gonna be expensive.

[Phil@rise]

It'll cost you twice as much to maintain as your used to. But it's twice the car so a comparison is like apples and oranges

[carmaniac]

I wouldn't do it. The Merc and M5 are more reliable, BUT they're still expensive to maintain.

I have an E36 M3 sedan and it's been expensive to run despite a pre-purchase inspection and full service records...

[!LittleDragon]

Honestly, I would go domestic if I was looking at similar era vehicles with those HP/TQ numbers. Specifically, the CTS-V. They're all older cars and something will break. When it does, I'd much rather pay for parts for a much more common LS motor.

[SaviorSelf_666]

Don't buy it. It's a ford basically. I have a friends dad that owns one that has been sitting in his garage for 2 years because parts keep failing. The electrical issues are crazy. I myself used to own a 92 XJ6 back in 03-04. I had a new problem every week.

[wasabisashimi]

damn it, It looks classy, and got the power. I guess Jags requires deep wallet

[1exotic]

that car for sure does not run with the E55.

[LP700-4]

Good value for the money, but will require lotsa extra cash for any kind of problems.

[Geoc]

The platform is based off of the Taurus, says a lot of about the car.

[Cman333]

You can find 2000 Jag Type S's for $8000.

If that doesn't scare you, I don't know what will. Used car pricing always reflects on the reliability of a car.

I remember in 2006 I was looking into 2000 Acura CL/TL but was wondering why an EL (essentially a civic) would cost nearly the same amount used. After looking into it....found out why....bad year for that car with tons of transmission issues.

Why does a 2003 IS300 still cost between 15k-20k and MSRP was probably a little over half the retail of the Jaguar?

Reliability has long been an issue with Jaguar, even since Ford purchased the brand in 1989 (though many would argue that at that time, Ford was hardly the company to improve Jaguar’s reliability fortunes). Some general conclusions may be gleaned from this short statement by a Jag-Lovers.org forum user named Chris Bomberger: “Parts and service are steep and the S-type car is not likely to provide you (with great) reliability; that is a reality.” What’s interesting is that the S-Type’s use of many Ford components should make repair costs reasonable, but apparently you pay for the privilege of driving a “prestige” car.

As far as specific issues are concerned, he mentions the original five-speed automatic transmission as a weak point. But apparently, early six-speeds weren’t much better, with failures in the lockup clutch in the torque converter being common, and contaminated fluid causing shifting issues. The original five-speed automatic is based on a Ford unit, but the newer six-speed is a ZF gearbox that’s used by many other high-end European vehicles

According to a post at JaguarForums.com, a stalling engine might be caused by failed vacuum breather tubes, which are a common occurrence.

Surf over to the S-Type forums at Roadfly.org and you’ll find a thread titled “Disgusted with Jaguar – Class action Lawsuit??”, started in 2004 by a woman so upset with her S-Type that she wanted to know if there was a suit pending against the manufacturer. At the time, her 2001 S-Type was on its third transmission in 40,000 miles. One reply by another owner listed a number of complaints he had with his car, including a failed transmission, a bad window regulator and “messed up” steering. What’s telling here is that this second poster said his 7 Series BMW was less expensive to run, and other posters in the thread chimed in with comments such as, “you’re crazy not to have an extended warranty;” another suggested getting the Jag fixed and then trading it for a BMW.

Regular readers of my used vehicle reviews will note that German cars don’t have a great reputation for long-term reliability, but in this case, I’d go German long before choosing an S-Type.

This site is awesome for used car reviews

http://www.autos.ca/used-car-reviews...type-2000-2007

[dangonay]

Wow, so much mis-information in here.

- The S-Type is not based off a Ford Taurus. Unless you can show me a Taurus that's RWD.
- Yes there are lots of Ford parts in late model Jags. That's why the reliability went up, especially the electrical. Ford modules are far more reliable than previous Jag components.
- Lots of electrical parts can be replaced with Ford parts instead of the higher priced Jag ones, which are exactly the same.
- If this car has the performance brake package (not all did) then you can expect to pay big $$$ for a brake job. And no, aftermarket parts aren't going to save you that much money.
- The engines in later models are quite reliable and don't have the nikasil problems that required so many early engines to need replacement.
- Water pumps are common problems, but are not hard to replace nor expensive. The new style pump is metal (old one plastic) so once changed you're good for many years.
- These engines can have timing chain issues. Once repaired with updated parts you're also good for many years. If you don't get it fixed and they let go then it's huge $$$ (like minimum $6K).
- The heater control valve for the climate control is also common. Sometimes you're lucky and it's just the valve or if you're unlucky then it shorts and takes out the climate control panel in your dash as well.
- The ABS control modules are prone to failure (very common). $2K from the dealer. Good news is you can send it out for repair/rebuilding and pay a couple hundred bucks including shipping.

One good thing is that you can replace any electronic modules in these cars with used parts from wreckers and they work. This is not the same with many European cars (like BMW) where a module needs to be coded/programmed before it will work properly in your car, which means a trip to the dealer.

I know this sounds like a lot of problems, but if you gave me a comparable car I could probably list just as many for them as well. And it's not likely you're going to get all of these problems as some could have already been fixed on the car by the current owner.

[wasabisashimi]

I am intrigued by the" R " model. It does have Brembo big brake 4 piston kit from OEM.

The low km and low price is the initial shock which prompted me to research more. IS the transmission also a weak point for this high power engine?

Do you know any jag specialist/private shop that will handle all my repairs and maintenance so that they can order ford parts, used parts, and charge abit less?

[J____]

jag + reliability =

[Jegz]

The first pic looks pretty boss tho.